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fordtrucks-digest Tuesday, October 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 032



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In this issue:

Re: 1949 F-4 [Jeff Hazewinkel ]
Re:changing engines- hoist height, etc [OBKBEE aol.com]
F-4 [csedgwick snet.net]
Re: 1949 F-4 [TonyDePaul aol.com]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #29 ["Thomas R. Happel" ]
Re: 1949 F-4 [Jan ]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #27 [JSanc82344 aol.com]
'52 F1 [GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)]

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:32:50 -0500
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: Re: 1949 F-4

Jim,

As someone who has two antique Ford trucks that fall outside the most
common models, I can relate with your questions. I found a couple of
things helpful. There ia a book called Ford Trucks since 1909 which has
been a great historical journal. It will answer alot of your question.
I also purchased a shop manual for my trucks as soon as I bought them.
As for the electric system, is is really a 6 volt positive. Conversion
to a 12 volt system runs around $250 if you decide you want to switch.
I have changed one of my trucks, have yet to decide on the other.

Jeff


Jim Shedlauskas wrote:
>
> I'm the new owner of a 1949 F-4 cab and chassis. The antique truck world
> is fairly new to me, I've spent most of my time dealing with newer models.
> I'd like to find out a little more about this thing. All the magazines,
> catalogs and books refer to F-1's and maybe a F-2 or F-3, I've never seen
> an F-4 mentioned anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place? I'm
> interested in the basic information, like what did it look like new? What
> information can I get from the data plate? Should it have turn signals?
> Why does a truck this large only have a six cylinder? Is this really a six
> volt positive ground system? And many other silly questions... If someone
> would be kind enough to point me in the right direction, I sure would
> appreciate it!
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:41:14 -0500 (EST)
From: OBKBEE aol.com
Subject: Re:changing engines- hoist height, etc

There are also two on top of each leg of the u-shaped radiator support and
about 6 on each of the air deflector panels. Good luck. Kent

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:44:09 -0800
From: csedgwick snet.net
Subject: F-4

In New England these are fairly rare, Ford's "Tonner" for 48-50.
About the size of an F-2 or 3 but the running gear is the same as an
F-5. Used 6.50 or 7.00x20 tires. Brakes are the same as F-5 or 6.
Ford shows the 6 as 95hp and the V-8 as 100hp, but most Ford enthusiasts
figure that was not true, the 6 probably developed more hp than the V-8,
because it's a more modern design. Less RPM tho, so less top speed.

I've not seen much published that covers these trucks.

I have a copy of the shop manual, reprint, 1949-1952, F-1 thru F-8,
these run $30.00 and aren't bad. I know you can get them from Job Lot,
on Long Island 1-800-221-0172 (they have a free parts catalog, most
parts available) or Bob Johnson Literature, MA 1-800-350-4591 The Ford
parts books for these trucks are expensive.

Never seen anything that implied that Ford ever installed a factory
directional signal on these. I presume if wanted they installed a Signal
Stat syle on the column and 4 lamps. (Shop manual never mentions)

What's wrong with 6V +ground? It worked. (I run 12v -)

Data plate on firewall will give only s/n - 9HTL0000000
9=1949
H=226ci 6cyl.
TL=designates F-4


Incidentally, there is one of these for sale at a small junkyard in
Killingworth, CT for $200. Rusty, but driven in about a year ago. Don't
know precise year, too many wasps, but 48-50.

Ed Sedgwick

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:05:43 -0500 (EST)
From: TonyDePaul aol.com
Subject: Re: 1949 F-4

Jim,

Buy a 49-51 Shop Manual from Drake's, Carpenter's, or one of the other Ford
houses advertised in Hemming's Motor News. There's a lot of information in
there, though it's not always clear or complete. You'll have to dig for
information on the F-4.

I wouldn't be discouraged about the six-cylinder engine. My '49 F-1 has the
small H-series six. It's my everyday go-to-work truck, and I'm never left
leading a parade on the Interstate. I'd want more torque if I had a trailer
to tow, but I don't.

It could be your F-4 has the larger M-series six, which has more horsepower
and torque than the R-series eight.

Good luck

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:08 -0700 (MST)
From: "Thomas R. Happel"
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #29

I converted my '53 in the process of re-building everything. Keep
in mind the gauges. There is a 12v resistor that you can get to put
on the ignition switch that should take care of all of them. I'm not
sure of the # but Napa or any other good aprts store can help you. Like
an idiot I put a resistor on all the sensors, so I need to go back
and take them out. I am also changing the fuel gauge sensor to a new
one that has been converted to 12v already.

As far as pros go - It definitely helps in starting, (btw - the starter
can handle the extra v's) and you will be able to see at night if you
put halogens in it. We had the generator rebuilt to put out 12v's, and
since we re-built the whole thing we changed to polarity to (-)
ground. That might take a little work on an existing truck.

- -Hap

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I am relatively new to this list, so if there is something I should have
seen about this, I'm sorry to bother you.

I have a 52 F1 that my father bought new and I inherited. It put in over
200,000 miles in the farm machinery business in Minnesota. I have put
another 30-40,000 over the years. Engine and drivetrain are original and
in good shape. The body, however, has been rough but I'm getting that fixed.

My question relates to the electrical system. I am considering converting
to a 12 volt system. Do any of you have pros, cons, advice and/or book
suggestions? I would appreciate knowing things I should look for.
Obviously, bulbs will have to be replaced. Also generator and regulator.
How about the starter? Gauges? What else am I missing?

Thanks for your help.

Mike



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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:53:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Jan
Subject: Re: 1949 F-4

Jeff,

Am wondering if you could be more specific about the pros and cons
of 6-V vs. 12-V. My '53 Ford F-250 is still in 6-V and was thinking
of converting with the idea that the headlights might be more bright.
As a kind of safety measure, since I plan to ride all over tarnation
in her. What else should I consider? Thanks.

Jan

On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Jeff Hazewinkel wrote:

> Jim,
>
> As someone who has two antique Ford trucks that fall outside the most
> common models, I can relate with your questions. I found a couple of
> things helpful. There ia a book called Ford Trucks since 1909 which has
> been a great historical journal. It will answer alot of your question.
> I also purchased a shop manual for my trucks as soon as I bought them.
> As for the electric system, is is really a 6 volt positive. Conversion
> to a 12 volt system runs around $250 if you decide you want to switch.
> I have changed one of my trucks, have yet to decide on the other.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jim Shedlauskas wrote:
> >
> > I'm the new owner of a 1949 F-4 cab and chassis. The antique truck world
> > is fairly new to me, I've spent most of my time dealing with newer models.
> > I'd like to find out a little more about this thing. All the magazines,
> > catalogs and books refer to F-1's and maybe a F-2 or F-3, I've never seen
> > an F-4 mentioned anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place? I'm
> > interested in the basic information, like what did it look like new? What
> > information can I get from the data plate? Should it have turn signals?
> > Why does a truck this large only have a six cylinder? Is this really a six
> > volt positive ground system? And many other silly questions... If someone
> > would be kind enough to point me in the right direction, I sure would
> > appreciate it!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> > +-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older --------------+
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>

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:01:04 -0500 (EST)
From: JSanc82344 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #27

I am installing a 76 Nova clip on my 56 F100 project truck, any installation
and welding tips?

Thanks

Joe

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Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:47:17, -0500
From: GEGK00A prodigy.com ( DAN LEE)
Subject: '52 F1

Chris,
I am in the throes of installing a power Disc brake setup on my '53
F100. I purchased the a great Disc Brake setup using GM Calipers from
Magnum Axle Co. The Pedal Assembly, Power Booster and Dual Master
Cylinder are Corvette and from TCI. I had some difficulty with the
Booster because my tranny mount (C6) is in the same location on the
frame, but I was able to solve the problem. The Rotors and Calipers
are simply a bolt on job. However I am facing the never ending battle
of finding the right fittings and lines. The down side is the price.
I am in the $1000.00 range, I may have done better with less
expensive vendors, but I think I have the best. E-me and I'll send
you addresses and phone #'s. I haven't found any source for Power
Steering yet. Most Street Rods use a Mustang II or Camaro Independent
Front Suspension, Now we are talking big Dollars. The first step is
to get a subscription to Street Rod Magazine and send for the
Catalogs advertised. Some of the ones that I use are Dennis Carpenter,
Obsolete Ford, MP Brakes, Summit Racing.

The 302CI Ford engine is a good start, although you may want to
update it. There are plenty of Performance Goodies for it. The C4 may....

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