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fordtrucks-digest Thursday, October 16 1997 Volume 01 : Number 023



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In this issue:

Electronic Ignition [Tkaczyk ]
Re: F-7 Truck Engine [Jeff Hazewinkel ]
Re: 6-cyl manifold [R Garber ]
Ch*vy truck questions, but with Ford intent... [sdelanty sonic.net]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #22 [OBKBEE aol.com]
Re: Ch*vy truck questions, but with Ford intent... [Art Starkey

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:39:59 -0400
From: Tkaczyk
Subject: Electronic Ignition

Neal,

I also installed the Mallory Unilite distributor on my 55 F100, on both
the 239 and 292 Y-block. Works great (using stock coil).

Gary

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:05:47 -0500
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: Re: F-7 Truck Engine

Thanks for the information. The engine came with transmission so I will
not have to worry about trying to match that up. My F600 is a 53. I
have placed the engine in the engine compartment as a storage place for
now and it appears that the inner fenders and the rest of the front end
sheet metal will still fit, but I will make sure before I invest too
much time and money into this engine.

Jeff


csedgwick snet.net wrote:
>
> The truck engine should be 337ci.
> The transmission it hooked to was a Clark 5 speed, 2 versions, 5th
> direct and 5th overdrive.
> The bellhousings are different, won't hook up to a 48-52 trans.
> I don't know what year your F600 is, but for 48 to 52 there were 3
> distinct sets of front fenders, F-1, F-2 - F-6, and F-7 - F-8. We did
> some measuring years ago, don't think the engine compartment is big
> enough on an F-6.
>
> I'm looking at the shop manual for these, doesn't really show and I
> can't remember precisely, but I think the front mounts are similar to an
> R engine, but closer together.
>
> I have a scanner, if a copy of anything would help, let me know.
>
> Good luck,
> Ed
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:51:52 -0500
From: R Garber
Subject: Re: 6-cyl manifold

At 04:57 AM 10/12/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I had one brazed back in the '50's - we heated the whole manifold in a
>commercial oven, the brazed the flange and ground it smooth - it worked
>fine. Mick

Mick,

I looked around (its amazing what you can find in your own back yard)
and found a shop that specializies in restoration of cracked, broken,
and eroded (wording on his card) cast iron and aluminum products.
He had a engine block that had a hole the size of your fist! on both
sides! " A easy fix" he said. So he has my mainifold. I'll post the
results after inspection.

Thanks
Rich

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 20:11:54 -0700
From: sdelanty sonic.net
Subject: Ch*vy truck questions, but with Ford intent...

O.K. this talks about an old ch*vy truck, so those who are easily
offended please hit DEL now!
Those who can handle it, please continue. I'm looking for ch*vy advise
which may include a Ford drivetrain swap.

So.. this friend of mine, who is a pretty fair mechanic and does most
of the maintenance on Her VERY clean '67 Galaxy just bought
a '51 pickup. The price was *very* reasonable. The body is very
straight, with only a few dings. All the chrome and trim is there,
and in pretty good shape. It needs some window glass.
It hasn't been moved or run in 6-7 years and the drivetrain is in
unknown condition. I suspect it will need major help.
The biggest obvious flaw with the truck is... It's a CH*VY!! )-:
(I know, but stay with me..)

The truck is cute and has good potential, even considering it's bad
breeding, and I may help Her a little fixing it.

One of the first things I noticed is the tranny/rear axle.. It's got
a torque tube driveline... I'm not very familiar with these, and it
looks like something hard to get parts for, etc.

So, the first question:
Would anyone out there who is familiar with these c-word
tranny/torque tube/rear axle things please write me back privately please.
I won't think bad things about You for knowing about this stuff... (-;

What I wannna know is about parts availability, pricing, and any other
general info about the 51 chevy tranny/rear axle/torque tube hardware.
Or where to find good info on them...
No, I'm not gonna join the ch*vy trucks list, that would be too.. creepy.

Cost of repair is a big issue for this stuff and if the stock stuff
can be made operable cheaply, that's what She'll do. If the stock stuff
is badly hosed and/or expensive/hard to repair, I'm gonna suggest a
driveline swap. If Your gonna swap the drivetrain, then there's not
much point in keeping the crappy ch*vy stuff, ehh?
(Ford content approaching..!)

Since Her galaxie has a 300-6 / C4 / 9inch, and She's already
familiar with this hardware and has good respect for it, it seems
like an obvious swap to push for.
Maybe a 302 instead of the 240/300-6 depending on wrecking yard costs...

Does anyone have any advise/wisdom/stories to share about poking a nice
Ford drivetrain into a early 50's ch*vy truck?

Please understand, She bought this truck without my prior knowledge and
I'm just trying to help Her out. I'd like to know what's involved with
fixing the ch*vy stuff, but I'm gonna push hard for Ford goods if the stock
stuff is gonna be much of a problem.

Please respond privately. (well, good stories about upgrading ch*vies
with good Ford parts might be fun publicly!)
Go easy on me, my asbestos suit is at the cleaners...

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty



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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 00:28:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: OBKBEE aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #22

I have been reading the posts for a few weeks and need advice or
suggestions from anyone. I hope I use the proper etiquette, first attempt,
thanks.



I recently purchased a 55' Panel Truck. 262 cu. in.? not sure, doesn't
matter because I'm upgrading to a 400 cu. in. A friend gave me a 400/w/c-6
and the engine shop picked up the motor & tranny today. I was going to try
an rebuild it myself but it took 2 hrs just to get the crank pulley and
dampner off, that was with air tools. The previous, previous owner removed
the stock front suspension and put in one from a 75' Chrylser Cordoba, :)
with Corinthian Leather, as Ricardo would say. There is some fancy cuttin' &
pieceing on this frame. Where ther upper control arm mounts they notched the
frame and inverted the piece for mounts. All the work for the P/S & P/B. One
lucky thing is I have all the paper work with what was done, diagrams,
everything. I have a manuel so I can tell what was


































































































































-[[==ck.
I thought I could tell from owning a 56' F100 a few years ago making it a
tilt front end and installing a motor mount cross member for the 351 but
alas, some things fade with time, :):) and wheelchair accumulation (MS). He
did a great job from what I can tell. I want to lower the truck, remounting
the rear axle ontop of the leaf springs/ notching and reinforcing the frame.
I have some info on mono leaf springs to also help.I just can't think
correctly what to do with the front end and the torsion bar setup. It has
wheel adapters (were 14 now 15) and the front wheels hang out a bit more than
the rear. Might be why I was told it weaves on the road a bit. I do have help
from my nephews that live next door and they're 100% inexperienced with
mechanical or labor intensive stuff but they are catching on. The first day
Dusty (14) was really gettin into wrenching, in a tight spot, was smashing
his hand and aftert a few times he just looked up at me. In his eyes I could
see the pain in his knuckles but his Uncle Kenny had MS in a chair, I am
tougher than the pain, got to hand it to him, he's trying. If I can only get
him to remember to take my garbage out with theirs :). I guess I have to
specify I am trying to make this thing a handicapped conversion. Wheelchair
lift, handcontrols, drive from the chair type set-up. It's heavy, 5800 lbs
stock, with my motor and covnversions we're up to about 7000. I'm also going
to get a harness from Ron Francis Wire Works. This thing, wire wise, looks
like an antipasto salad with out the meat, but believe me there is some
cheese, wires cut, taped, glued. The thing that amazes me most is that 90% of
the wiring is the "original stuff" cracked and dry drotted but the sparks
still flow. Basically that's it. In advance, everyone's input is greatly
appreciated and desired.
Used to be F.O.R.D. Fix or repair daily
now strangely enough it's F.O.R.D. Forever Ones Reality Delivered
Thanks, Kent Berger
obkbee aol.com

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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:05:50 -0700
From: Art Starkey
Subject: Re: Ch*vy truck questions, but with Ford intent...

At 08:11 PM 10/15/97 -0700, you wrote:
> O.K. this talks about an old ch*vy truck, so those who are easily
> offended please hit DEL now!
> Those who can handle it, please continue. I'm looking for ch*vy advise
> which may include a Ford drivetrain swap.
>
> So.. this friend of mine, who is a pretty fair mechanic and does most
> of the maintenance on Her VERY clean '67 Galaxy just bought
> a '51 pickup. The price was *very* reasonable. The body is very
> straight, with only a few dings. All the chrome and trim is there,
> and in pretty good shape. It needs some window glass.
> It hasn't been moved or run in 6-7 years and the drivetrain is in
> unknown condition. I suspect it will need major help.
> The biggest obvious flaw with the truck is... It's a CH*VY!! )-:
> (I know, but stay with me..)
>
> The truck is cute and has good potential, even considering it's bad
> breeding, and I may help Her a little fixing it.
>
> One of the first things I noticed is the tranny/rear axle.. It's got
> a torque tube driveline... I'm not very familiar with these, and it
> looks like something hard to get parts for, etc.
>
> So, the first question:
> Would anyone out there who is familiar with these c-word
> tranny/torque tube/rear axle things please write me back privately please.
> I won't think bad things about You for knowing about this stuff... (-;
>
> What I wannna know is about parts availability, pricing, and any other
> general info about the 51 chevy tranny/rear axle/torque tube hardware.
> Or where to find good info on them...
> No, I'm not gonna join the ch*vy trucks list, that would be too.. creepy.
>
> Cost of repair is a big issue for this stuff and if the stock stuff
> can be made operable cheaply, that's what She'll do. If the stock stuff
> is badly hosed and/or expensive/hard to repair, I'm gonna suggest a
> driveline swap. If Your gonna swap the drivetrain, then there's not
> much point in keeping the crappy ch*vy stuff, ehh?
> (Ford content approaching..!)
>
> Since Her galaxie has a 300-6 / C4 / 9inch, and She's already
> familiar with this hardware and has good respect for it, it seems
> like an obvious swap to push for.
> Maybe a 302 instead of the 240/300-6 depending on wrecking yard costs...
>
> Does anyone have any advise/wisdom/stories to share about poking a nice
> Ford drivetrain into a early 50's ch*vy truck?
>
> Please understand, She bought this truck without my prior knowledge and
> I'm just trying to help Her out. I'd like to know what's involved with
> fixing the ch*vy stuff, but I'm gonna push hard for Ford goods if the stock
> stuff is gonna be much of a problem.
>
> Please respond privately. (well, good stories about upgrading ch*vies
> with good Ford parts might be fun publicly!)
> Go easy on me, my asbestos suit is at the cleaners...
>
> Happy motoring,
>
> Steve Delanty
>
>
>
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>
> Steve
As much as I hate to admit it I have who has one of those C things stock
parts are pretty easy to find at least around here BUT you pretty much have
to stay with all stock stuff like trans and engine BUT (this is the good....

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