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fordtrucks-digest Monday, December 29 1997 Volume 01 : Number 093



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In this issue:

Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #86 [TNickolson ]
Re: '54 F-100 [Don Grossman ]
Re: Chat Party! [Ken Payne ]
Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #92 [My59f100 ]
Re: Merry Christmas ! ["R. Garber" ]
Re: '54 F-100 ["R. Garber" ]
RE: '54 F-100 [Ethan Vos ]
Re: Merry Christmas ! [JRFiero ]
Are you a hightech redneck? ["Don & Teresa Neighbors"

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:16:25 EST
From: TNickolson
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #86

I hate to tell you guys this, but my brother in law and I went for a Christmas
Day drive along the ocean. and it was a 76' and sunny. Sorry

Tom

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:28:33 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: '54 F-100

Earl T. Ingram, IV wrote:
>
> Hello. I just joined the list. I am considering buying a 1954 F-100. I
> was wondering if someone on the list could help me with a few questions.
> First, was a 4x4 F-100 produced that year? What engine combination was
> avialable? A flathead is installed, and I thought 1953 was the last year
> for the flathead. It is possible that a mistake was made somewhere in
> titling the truck. Is there any way of determining the origin of this truck
> by tracing the VIN? If so, where do I start?

Is this truck a 4x? If it is it was either done by Marmon-Herrington or
Napco, if it is stock. Someone could have added the 4x drivetrain
later. I would make sure that it is still stock. If it is one of the
conversions very few were made and even fewer are left.

People could walk into a Ford dealer and order a truck with the 4x
option. You would pick out the truck you wanted and Ford would ship the
truck to MH or Napco and they would do the conversion then ship to the
dealer.

Look at the transfer case and the front axle. The transfer case will
have a little metal ID tag on it and the front axle should have some
stampings on the axle tubes.

> The truck that I am considering has a nearly perfect body, and very little
> rust (just a little in the corner of the floorboard). However, it has a
> late-model (70's) grille, cedar running boards and tail gate. I would like
> to return the truck to "original" condition. Are the parts going to be hard
> to find?

If this is and "origional" 4x than you are off to a good start already.
How in the world did someone put a 70's grill in the front of this
truck?

> Any information is greatly appreciated. I love the look of the fat-fendered
> Ford Trucks. I really want this truck, but I don't know if its worth the
> hassle.

I wouldn't turn this truck into a street rod if it is an "origional" 4x.
> Thanks again

> Earl
> eingram richmond.infi.net

Where are you and and do you have any pics of the truck?
- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net


63 Ford F-100 4x4 67' 390, t-98, Spicer 24, Dana 60, Dana 44, power
steering, power brakes, and now ON BOARD AIR!

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 16:05:39 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: Chat Party!

At 10:54 PM 12/27/97 -0800, you wrote:
>Hey!
>Saturday night was fun. There was actually more than one person in the
>chat room! I hope this happens again sometime. Maybe we should plan more
>"chat parties." Anyway, for those of you who are following my interest in
>a 59 F100, I haven't bought it, but I am going to talk it over with a
>local mechanic who is restoring a 58 F100 (if I can find him). Thanks for
>all the info and advice.
>"See" you all next Saturday night at 10pm eastern, 7pm PST, etc.
>Nick

I think it'll just take some time before it really starts to catch on.
Same type of pattern happens for new lists.

Ken

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 16:01:00 EST
From: My59f100
Subject: Re: fordtrucks-digest V1 #92

In a message dated 97-12-28 05:53:23 EST, you write:


Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 21:44:11 -0800
From: jc& terry
Subject: [none]

in need of several parts for my 1959 F-100 custom cab:
>>
Horn ring try Jack Timm Des Moines Iowa Ph:515-243-0665 I met him in
Hershey . He has real clean stuff .
DOUG MY59F100 aol.com

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:49:58 -0600
From: "R. Garber"
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas !

! If anyone remembers, I be the guy
>going to rebuild a 1950 F2 flatbed/flathead in Fairbanks Ak. However the
>block was cracked between the cyl. and valves very badly and in two places.
>Boat anchor.
>Every tiny part it had the old script Ford and 1949 written on it, a true
>original. So, of to the shop for boil-out & magnafluxing. Alas, cracks down
>by the oil pan thru from the water jacket. Boat anchor #2 according to the
>wrench at the garage.

Tony,

I had a guy repair a exhaust and intake manifold that was cracked and now you
can't tell. He also had a block that had a hole in it the size of your
fist(threw a rod)
I saw it before and after. Perfectly repaired.
If you are going back to orignal keep the block, have it repaired, keep the
numbers
together.
You'd be suprised at what can be fixed.

Rich
54 F100

PS: The ford garage said mine could'nt be fixed

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:43:19 -0600
From: "R. Garber"
Subject: Re: '54 F-100

I am considering buying a 1954 F-100.

IMOP best year to obtain, Least produced, Least common restored.

>First, was a 4x4 F-100 produced that year?
Can't help here.

What engine combination
6-cyl 223, 8-cyl 239,256,279 and 317

A flathead is installed, and I thought 1953 was the last year
53 was the last year.

. It is possible that a mistake was made somewhere in
>titling the truck.
One thing is sure, anything could have happened.

Is there any way of determining the origin of this truck
>by tracing the VIN? If so, where do I start?
Books, post the vin and we can tell you what you need to know.
(mine was assembled in St.Paul, July of 54, Motor&Trans. june of 54)
>
it has a
>late-model (70's) grille, cedar running boards and tail gate. I would like
>to return the truck to "original" condition. Are the parts going to be hard
>to find?
The parts missing are prob. the most expensive to obtain, however all are
available.
>
> I really want this truck, but I don't know if its worth the
>hassle.
>Earl, any classic is worth it, If you decide not to prusue this
let the list know. Be prepared to spend money, do it right, and ENJOY!

Rich
54 F100

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 20:17:09 -0500
From: Ethan Vos
Subject: RE: '54 F-100

I have a 55 F-500 with an original flathead in it. I think it's a late 54 and in Canada they apparently used flatheads until 54.

Ethan


- -----Original Message-----
From: R. Garber [SMTP:rgarber pressenter.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 1997 7:43 PM
To: fordtrucks ListService.net
Subject: Re: '54 F-100

I am considering buying a 1954 F-100.

IMOP best year to obtain, Least produced, Least common restored.

>First, was a 4x4 F-100 produced that year?
Can't help here.

What engine combination
6-cyl 223, 8-cyl 239,256,279 and 317

A flathead is installed, and I thought 1953 was the last year
53 was the last year.

. It is possible that a mistake was made somewhere in
>titling the truck.
One thing is sure, anything could have happened.

Is there any way of determining the origin of this truck
>by tracing the VIN? If so, where do I start?
Books, post the vin and we can tell you what you need to know.
(mine was assembled in St.Paul, July of 54, Motor&Trans. june of 54)
>
it has a
>late-model (70's) grille, cedar running boards and tail gate. I would like
>to return the truck to "original" condition. Are the parts going to be hard
>to find?
The parts missing are prob. the most expensive to obtain, however all are
available.
>
> I really want this truck, but I don't know if its worth the
>hassle.
>Earl, any classic is worth it, If you decide not to prusue this
let the list know. Be prepared to spend money, do it right, and ENJOY!

Rich
54 F100




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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:30:04 EST
From: JRFiero
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas !

In a message dated 97-12-28 20:01:19 EST, you write:


>>going to rebuild a 1950 F2 flatbed/flathead in Fairbanks Ak. However the
>>block was cracked between the cyl. and valves very badly and in two
places.
>>Boat anchor.
>>Every tiny part it had the old script Ford and 1949 written on it, a true
>>original. So, of to the shop for boil-out & magnafluxing. Alas, cracks
down
>>by the oil pan thru from the water jacket. Boat anchor #2 according to
the
>>wrench at the garage.

>Tony,

>I had a guy repair a exhaust and intake manifold that was cracked and now
you
>can't tell. He also had a block that had a hole in it the size of your
>fist(threw a rod)
>I saw it before and after. Perfectly repaired.
>If you are going back to orignal keep the block, have it repaired, keep
the
>numbers
>together.
>You'd be suprised at what can be fixed.

>Rich
>54 F100

>PS: The ford garage said mine could'nt be fixed
>>

Flathead blocks are getting hard to find, and it's damn near impossible to
find one with no cracks anywhere. The cracks between the cylinders and the
valves are the worst, and prohibitively expensive to fix, if they can be. The
second situation you describe is probably fixable. As Rich said, 'You'd be
suprised at what can be fixed.' Even it you don't want the blocks, somebody
probably does.
Re "keep the numbers together," U.S. flatheads didn't have block numbers,
although Canadian ones did. Makes it virtually impossible to tell what year
or what vehicle they came from.

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Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:34:58 -0500
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Are you a hightech redneck?

I know this doesn't say "Ford" anywhere in it, but I thohgt all you old
truck owners (like me!) would get a kick out of it.
Don
> > > Howdy,
> > >
> > > This is a test. Only a test. Just set over yonder on the couch,
away
> > > from
> > > 'Ole Bessie for a minute and see how you score.
> > >
> > > ******************************************************
> > > You might be a high tech redneck :
> > >
> > > If you have old computers up on blocks in the front yard.
> > >
> > > If your e-mail address ends in "over.yonder.com."
> > >
> > > If you connect to the World Wide Web via a "Down Home Page."
> > >
> > > If the bumper sticker on your truck says,
> > > "My other computer is a laptop."
> > >
> > > If your laptop has a sticker that says,
> > > "Protected by Smith and Wesson."
> > >
> > > If you wire your network with jumper cables.
> > >
> > > If you've ever doubled the value of your truck by
> > > installing a cellular phone.
> > >
> > > If your deer rifle has laser-guided bullets.
> > >
> > > If your baseball cap reads "IBM" instead of "CAT."
> > >
> > > If your computer is worth more than all your cars and trucks
combined.
> > >
> > > If your wife ever said either she or the computer had to go,
> > > and you still don't miss her.
> > >
> > > If you've ever used a CD-ROM as a coaster to set your beer on.....


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