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fordtrucks-digest Sunday, September 28 1997 Volume 01 : Number 004



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In this issue:

Less traffic ["Paul G." ]
Last chance ["Paul G." ]
tranny swaps ["Neal B. Forbes" ]
Y-block Question ["Don & Teresa Neighbors" ]
Re: tranny swaps [Ken Payne ]
Re: Flathead [Dan Wentz ]
Re: Last chance [Jeff Hazewinkel ]
Door locks ["Mr. Flood" ]
Re: Door locks [billjhs ]
52 Ford F1 HELP!! [joebob lobo.net (Joseph B. Michels, Phd)]
Re: 52 Ford F1 HELP!! [Art Starkey ]
Re: Y-block Question [Art Starkey ]
Re: Door locks [Art Starkey ]
Re: Door locks [A64F100 aol.com]
Re: 52 Ford F1 HELP!! [Art Starkey ]

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:30:52 -0700
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Less traffic

I agree; this list will pick up soon; it's natural to have less traffic
than the newer ones. That's fine with me.

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:33:37 -0700
From: "Paul G."
Subject: Last chance

In spite of many near sales, I still have for sale cheap:

239 Y block, complete with stick trans attached

55 panel project truck; needs engine/trans...has torsion bar conversion
on front susp.

I am really disgusted I could not sell these to anyone at any price. I
have tomove them from my yard, and, if they aren't sold, I'll junk them
in about a month.
I'm in Virginia.
Paul Gayda

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 08:37:13 -0400
From: "Neal B. Forbes"
Subject: tranny swaps

Hello All! Or maybe both of you? Everyone should respond with a post
telling poor Ken that we are out here. He has worked very hard for us.
(applause!)
I have a 54 F100 with a 292 YBlock and three speed on the column. I want
to change to a 4speed on the floor. Two questions: what was the original
4 spped that was available in the 54 (was it T-98?). My floor pan has a
screw down access plate to the tranny. Is there a different one with
4speeds that has the hole already punched? Thanks! Neal (HotHeap)
Forbes


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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:10:09 -0400
From: "Don & Teresa Neighbors"
Subject: Y-block Question

Hey, you Y-block Types!
I can't believe how much my e-mail has dropped off since the split! I
kind of miss it.
My '54's 239 features the Ford carb that looks kind of like the Stromberg
carbs common at the time. In the years that the old truck has been
sitting, the spacer that sits under the carburetor has begun to
disintigrate, and as a result oozes gasoline when I start it up. I bought a
new gasket at a local parts place, but apparently they don't carry the
spacer.
Is this thing healthier and happier with that spacer in place, or will it
be fine if I just use a plain ol' gasket? I just realised as I type this
that I haven't checked for any clearance problems with the linkage....
Anybody know where I can find that spacer?
I've also noticed evidence of a rear main seal leak. I guess that's to be
expected, after 23 years of sitting. Anybody have experienc with replacing
that seal with the engine in place? Or do I need to plan on getting out the
hoist and engine stand?
I've never played with a Y-block before, so I have LOTS of questions!!!
Don

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 11:26:00 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: tranny swaps

At 08:37 AM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello All! Or maybe both of you? Everyone should respond with a post
>telling poor Ken that we are out here. He has worked very hard for us.
> (applause!)
>I have a 54 F100 with a 292 YBlock and three speed on the column. I want
>to change to a 4speed on the floor. Two questions: what was the original
>4 spped that was available in the 54 (was it T-98?). My floor pan has a
>screw down access plate to the tranny. Is there a different one with
>4speeds that has the hole already punched? Thanks! Neal (HotHeap)
>Forbes
>
>

Actually, there's about 50 now. Once a few items start being discussed
it'll snowball. At least that's what the 80+ group did. Also, you
might end up seeing a message now and then that belongs on the 61-79
group. That's because we're listed on many places on the 'Net and
this list address happens to be the address the 79- used to use. If
you see one of those messages, please tell the person to email me about
chaning over. I won't be able to frequent this list often enough to
catch all of them. Most of my time will be on the 61-79 list.

Ken

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:26:05 -0700
From: Dan Wentz
Subject: Re: Flathead

>I will be replacing the water pump on my 1950 F-1 and I'm worried about
>the bolt inside the water pump.

I would be too. ;-)

>Anyone have any experience? Will it be rusted and hard to remove or
>will I be pleasantly surprised? If difficult, should I use an impact
>wrench with the air pressure turned way down? Or?????????

I've had them go a couple different ways. Hopefully all the bolts will
come right out (intact) with minimal sweating and swearing. But be
prepared for one to maybe break. I had this happen once and it is not
pleasant. But considering that these bolts have been in there for maybe 50
years you have to expect that.

I don't think you'd need to use an impact wrench--the ones that are going
to come out will do so with sockets/box wrenches. My only strong bit of
advice is to have a set of easy-outs handy in case you break a bolt.

~Dan

1992 Ford Mustang LX
1950 Ford F1, 351C-2V
Check out my F1 page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GeoCities.com/MotorCity/3623

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 17:14:57 -0500
From: Jeff Hazewinkel
Subject: Re: Last chance

It is too bad that the 55 panel is not closer to my neck of the woods.
I really hate to see any Ford truck end up as junk if it has any
potential at all. I would gladly take it off your hands and set it
aside as the next next project. Anyone feel like moving a 55 panel from
Virginia to Indiana ?

Jeff

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:12:26 -0500
From: "Mr. Flood"
Subject: Door locks

Hello,

Can someone tell me why?

Why does my 39 have just one door lock on the passanger side of all
places? What was Henry thinking!

Lee Hardy,

Do you have any fenders or hoods or hood hinges? Let me know.

Bill Flood
39 Pickup

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 22:16:37 -0400
From: billjhs
Subject: Re: Door locks

Mr. Flood wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Can someone tell me why?
>
> Why does my 39 have just one door lock on the passanger side of all
> places? What was Henry thinking!
>
> Lee Hardy,
>
> Do you have any fenders or hoods or hood hinges? Let me know.
>
> Bill Flood
> 39 Pickup
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From what I have been told, the reason for no driver door lock was
because it was not legal or improper to enter or exit the vehicle from
the street side. Hence, the lock is only on the OUTSIDE of the passenger
door. Hope this helps
BIll

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 20:23:43 -0400
From: joebob lobo.net (Joseph B. Michels, Phd)
Subject: 52 Ford F1 HELP!!

OK, the net provided lots of good ideas on getting spark, which we now have,
however, am thinking that we must have stuck valves, the truck is getting
both spark and fuel, however, NO START. It labors when turning over,
suggesting that the valves are stuck?

How do I check for stuck valves?

Assume that the valves are stuck-- what do I do to "UNSTICK" them WITHOUT a
complete engine disassembly?

A complete engine disassembly is GOING TO HAPPEN, however, I would like to
have it run BEFORE I tear it apart?

Anyone got any good ideas?/?

joebob

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:44:02 -0700
From: Art Starkey
Subject: Re: 52 Ford F1 HELP!!

At 08:23 PM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>OK, the net provided lots of good ideas on getting spark, which we now have,
>however, am thinking that we must have stuck valves, the truck is getting
>both spark and fuel, however, NO START. It labors when turning over,
>suggesting that the valves are stuck?
>
>How do I check for stuck valves?
>
>Assume that the valves are stuck-- what do I do to "UNSTICK" them WITHOUT a
>complete engine disassembly?
>
>A complete engine disassembly is GOING TO HAPPEN, however, I would like to
>have it run BEFORE I tear it apart?
>
>Anyone got any good ideas?/?
>
>joebob
>
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> Try doing a compression check that may give you some clue, do one both wet&
dry.

Art

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 23:55:46 -0700
From: Art Starkey
Subject: Re: Y-block Question

At 10:10 AM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
> Hey, you Y-block Types!
> I can't believe how much my e-mail has dropped off since the split! I
>kind of miss it.
> My '54's 239 features the Ford carb that looks kind of like the Stromberg
>carbs common at the time. In the years that the old truck has been
>sitting, the spacer that sits under the carburetor has begun to
>disintigrate, and as a result oozes gasoline when I start it up. I bought a
>new gasket at a local parts place, but apparently they don't carry the
>spacer.
> Is this thing healthier and happier with that spacer in place, or will it
>be fine if I just use a plain ol' gasket? I just realised as I type this
>that I haven't checked for any clearance problems with the linkage....
>Anybody know where I can find that spacer?
> I've also noticed evidence of a rear main seal leak. I guess that's to be
>expected, after 23 years of sitting. Anybody have experienc with replacing
>that seal with the engine in place? Or do I need to plan on getting out the
>hoist and engine stand?
> I've never played with a Y-block before, so I have LOTS of questions!!!
> Don
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> Try one from a flathead, 53 flathead's were also a 239 cu.in.



Art

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 00:03:23 -0700
From: Art Starkey
Subject: Re: Door locks

At 08:12 PM 9/27/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Can someone tell me why?
>
>Why does my 39 have just one door lock on the passanger side of all
>places? What was Henry thinking!
>
>Lee Hardy,
>
>Do you have any fenders or hoods or hood hinges? Let me know.
>
>Bill Flood
>39 Pickup
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>
> From what I understand roads weren't much good back then ( lots of mud )
so most everyone got out on pass. side where sidewalk was so lock driver's
door then slide across and get out on sidewalk.


Art

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 03:05:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: A64F100 aol.com
Subject: Re: Door locks

The 2nd door lock was a custom cab thing from what I've heard, so if it isn't
a custom cab there's only 1 door lock.

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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 02:29:21 -0700
From: Art Starkey
Subject: Re: 52 Ford F1 HELP!!

At 11:44 PM 9/27/97 -0700, you wrote:
>At 08:23 PM 9/27/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>OK, the net provided lots of good ideas on getting spark, which we now have,
>>however, am thinking that we must have stuck valves, the truck is getting
>>both spark and fuel, however, NO START. It labors when turning over,
>>suggesting that the valves are stuck?
>>
>>How do I check for stuck valves?
>>
>>Assume that the valves are stuck-- what do I do to "UNSTICK" them WITHOUT a
>>complete engine disassembly?
>>
>>A complete engine disassembly is GOING TO HAPPEN, however, I would like to
>>have it run BEFORE I tear it apart?
>>
>>Anyone got any good ideas?/?
>>
>>joebob
>>
>>+-------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1960 and Older --------------+
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>>
>> Try doing a compression check that may give you some clue, do one both wet&
>dry.
>
> Art
>
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> Joebob
Forgot to answer second part of your question try pulling spark plugs &
pouring diesel in plug holes let set for several days then turn motor over
with plugs out, you may have to do it several times. If you get motor....


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