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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Mon, 29 May 2000 17:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:07:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #89 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Sun, 28 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 089 In This Issue: Free 51-52 Hubcaps Re: Free 51-52 Hubcaps Spring perch bushings and shock mounts ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I 6v to 12v light switch Re: 6v to 12v light switch Door lock adjustments oversize door mirrors for 53-56 Re: brass spring bushings woodsmoke vs. dovetone gray (1953 F100) heater connections (1953) pine floor boards? (1953) Gas tank opening Re: 6v to 12v light switch 12 Volt Conversion quote limits Re: heater connections (1953) Re: 12 Volt Conversion Bolt Sizes and Grades Funky generator springs Re: 6v to 12v light switch ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 10:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Subject: Free 51-52 Hubcaps Just doing some more cleaning and found 2 hubcaps. They have dents and a little rust where rock chips are. They would look at home on an unrestored truck or great on a garage wall. For the cost of shipping they are yours. Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: 320064331603-0001 Subject: Re: Free 51-52 Hubcaps Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 21:00:59 +0200 Scott, You just keep cleaning. If you start finding 50 Mercury parts, you will have my full, undivided attention... Joel Stobbe Munich, Germany 1950 M-47 1965 Mustang Scott schrieb: > Just doing some more cleaning and found 2 hubcaps. For the cost of shipping > they are yours. > Scott ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:23:47 -0400 From: Gary Vandergrift Subject: Spring perch bushings and shock mounts I had to remove a bushing one time and used a hack saw to do it. Slide the blade through the whole, assemble it in the frame and saw at least one slice throuugh the bushing. If that doesn't loosen it then two cuts will. -- Gary Vandergrift GV in CT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 16:31:01 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Supernationals Report, part I Part one in a series of articles about the 22nd Annual F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennesee is now on the web site. Go to the main page of the site, www.ford-trucks.com, and click on the link in the Recent Site additions. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: PWPTRUCK1 Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 17:40:57 EDT Subject: 6v to 12v light switch Hi gang, I am converting my 52 F-3 from 6v to 12v. I need to change the headlight switch, horn relay, starter solenoid and voltage regulator to 12v. What year model can I get these in 12v? I am trying to keep it as original looking as I can, but I know some things will be different. By the way, I am using a 12v generator, not an alternator. Thanks, Paul ------------------------------ From: "glperry" Subject: Re: 6v to 12v light switch Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 02:16:47 -0500 I Don' t believe you need to change the light switch at all. Wires and terms are larger on 6-volt systems and work OK with 12-volt. Not sure on Horn relay . Starter relays for Ford are same for several years, except you may have the button underneath for cranking under the hood which I've never found new. Just note wether you have 1 or 2 small terms and get same from later 12-volt year. You should be able to use original 6-volt starter with no problems. Regulators can be had in 12 volt as a "universal" part, all with same terminals. Best bet I've had in changing to 12 volt is one-wire GM alternator, with one wire to connect and your done. Easy to modify mount to fit, Even on Fords I've had. Or Partick's makes mounts to bolt-on flatheads. "G" -----Original Message----- From: PWPTRUCK1 To: pre61-list Date: Sunday, May 28, 2000 4:45 PM Subject: [pre61-list] 6v to 12v light switch >Hi gang, >I am converting my 52 F-3 from 6v to 12v. I need to change the headlight >switch, horn relay, starter solenoid and voltage regulator to 12v. What year >model can I get these in 12v? I am trying to keep it as original looking as I >can, but I know some things will be different. By the way, I am using a 12v >generator, not an alternator. > >Thanks, >Paul >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the >message. > > ------------------------------ From: dlewis Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 17:54:53 -0700 Subject: Door lock adjustments This is for 53-55 cabs in particular. My drivers side door will only close on the first catch of the locking mechanism. There should be two clicks as the passenger side shows. With my striker plate all the way in the out position I still can't get the door to close tightly. So is my mechanism worn? I seems to look the same and move the same as the passenger side does. Has anyone else run into this?? Thanks for any advise on adjustments!! Dave Lewis 53 and 54 Mercs ------------------------------ From: "John Niolon" Subject: oversize door mirrors for 53-56 Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:26:43 -0500 I know I'm not crazy...(well..some) but last year I saw some door mirrors that were dupes of the originals only larger ... am I dreaming or did anyone else see these.. I couldn't find a vendor with them this year...so I'm asking Anyone know who handles them and how to get in touch with them ??? TIA John ------------------------------ From: Larrykvet Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 22:42:34 EDT Subject: Re: brass spring bushings if you heat them first with a torch then the hammer(big) and punch will work easy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:14:59 -0700 From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" Subject: woodsmoke vs. dovetone gray (1953 F100) the athorities seems to be at odds: is the stock gray for 53 woodsmoke or dovetone gray? and is there anyone out there who can help me match this to a Pantone color (graphic/printing color guide)? my hope/goal is to find a krylon color to "match"... thanks. hunter 53 in shaketown ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:18:15 -0700 From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" Subject: heater connections (1953) okay: i just replumbed my heater to keep it from roasting me in the summer. trouble is the old bits were not stock (maybe stock from ACE hardware circa 1962)... so i've nothing to go on. does the shutoff valve go in the top hole or the bottom hole--or does it matter? either one will stop the flow, but which is "correct"? if anyone has a few pics of their 53 stock engine, i'd love to see 'em hunter hunter 53 in shakeytown ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:22:29 -0700 From: "Hunter L. Wimmer" Subject: pine floor boards? (1953) does anyone have a source for drop-in pine boards for a 1953? sacramento vintage has pine boards but they are not fully machined (and i dont have/want a router). their oak boards are peachy and well machined, but i'm going to paint over them (body color--just like in the olden days)--so why the expense? thanks hunter in shakeytown (i swear i this is my last post for the day) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 20:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Whitmore Subject: Gas tank opening A question for those of you who have eliminated the gas tank in the cab behind the seat. What did you do about the hole in the cab where the filler neck came through? Is there a ready-made plate to fill this opening? Bob(48F6) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://invites.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Jack Wart" Subject: Re: 6v to 12v light switch Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:45:41 -0400 The light switch doesn't care what the voltage is. Not sure about the horn, etc. I'm in the process of doing the same thing on my 52 F-1. Don't think the solenoid has to be changed either. >>Hi gang, >>I am converting my 52 F-3 from 6v to 12v. I need to change the headlight >>switch, horn relay, starter solenoid and voltage regulator to 12v. ------------------------------ From: "Jack Wart" Subject: 12 Volt Conversion Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 00:54:46 -0400 I am converting my 52 F-1 to 12 volts. Also new directional lights. Does anybody know how to convert the front parking lights to double filament sockets, what sockets, and what bulbs? Also, I have the standard cab that has no lock cylinder on the drivers door. Is it possible to just drill the door and add a lock cylinder & mechanism? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: jniolon Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 19:38:26 -0500 Subject: quote limits thank you Ken john ------------------------------ From: "Joe Michels" Subject: Re: heater connections (1953) Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 08:02:33 -0400 Put the shutoff valve in the top hole-- that way, you have no water flowing into the heater core when you have the valve turned off. If you put it in the bottom hole, the heater core is always full of water with no place to go. That is the way I see it!! Joebob ----- > does the shutoff valve go in the top hole or the bottom hole--or does it matter? > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "Joe Michels" Subject: Re: 12 Volt Conversion Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 08:07:51 -0400 Does anybody know how to convert the front parking lights to double filament > sockets, what sockets, and what bulbs? > > Also, I have the standard cab that has no lock cylinder on the drivers door. > Is it possible to just drill the door and add a lock cylinder & mechanism? A. You can get dual filament sockets at NAPA, however, think that you have to change out the wiring harness, or at least run the additional wire down to the sockets to provide the power. When you buy a new harness, you can have either the single filament or the dual filament bulbs. B. There never was a lock cylinder in the drivers side. All of the old stock trucks had just one lock, on the passengers side. The idea was that you locked the car from the inside-- push the handle forward and slid across the seat and locked from the passenger's side. The logic was that the streets were muddy ,however, you could get to the sidewalk and not mess up the truk. At least that is what I was told. Joebob > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "Debi & Rick Maxted" Subject: Bolt Sizes and Grades Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 06:35:40 PDT Hello Again! I'll try this one more time. Can anyone out there help me with bolt sizes and grades. I am ready to connect the bellhousing, clutch and tranny(3 speed) to my 239 flatty and drop it in the frame. Does anyone know the size and grade of bolts, cap screws? etc. plus torque specs I need to accomplish this? Is there a good reference book or parts cataloge for the '48 - '50 trucks that lists not only the components but bolts, sizes, grade and torque specs? I really would appreciate this information. Thanks, Rick Stock '49 F1 ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: AMorgan351 Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 12:22:13 EDT Subject: Funky generator springs Hi All Last year I replaced my generator (1/4" slop in the bearings). Life was good until I noticed it took more and more revs to get my red gen light to go out. After a couple of weeks not even freeway running got it to go out. At first I suspected the voltage reg, but then checked the gen and got 3-5 volts out of it. Took it back to the shop and the first time they tested it they got 50 volts - very strange. After taking it apart to clean it, they found the springs that push the brushes against the rotor didn't have enough push. I did notice that a new generator had a lot more friction than mine when hand turning - which must have been the brushes. So - beware of premature death in generators - the springs may be all that's wrong. AL no-name 57 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 17:05:14 -0500 Subject: Re: 6v to 12v light switch From: "Andy Montebello" Six volt horn sounds real load on a 12 volt system, you just need to get a 12 volt horn relay at any auto parts store. -- ---------- >From: "Jack Wart" >To: >Subject: [pre61-list] Re: 6v to 12v light switch >Date: Sun, May 28, 2000, 11:45 PM > > The light switch doesn't care what the voltage is. Not sure about the horn, > etc. I'm in the process of doing the same thing on my 52 F-1. Don't think > the solenoid has to be changed either. > >>>Hi gang, >>>I am converting my 52 F-3 from 6v to 12v. I need to change the headlight >>>switch, horn relay, starter solenoid and voltage regulator to 12v. > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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