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pre61-list Digest Wed, 10 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 076

In This Issue:
Re: Inner Fender Suggestions
Re: Parking Brake Cable
292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Re: Some stuff for sale
Re: 61' Unibody for Sell Seattle Area
Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Radio ID

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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inner Fender Suggestions

shawn,

I would use a wire wheel or brush driven by an
electric drill or commercial grinder/polisher to
remove the undercoating.
I have no experience with Zero Rust, but I think POR15
is worth the price.
POR15 goes a long way, a quart should be plenty for
inside of the fenders. You will have some left over.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V
>
> From: "shawn" home.com>
> Subject: Inner Fender Suggestions
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:34:10 -0700
>
>
> You folks have always mentioned if you have
> questions this is the place to ask, well i am
> taking apart my truck finally so have a few
> questions. What seems to be the best overall
> protection
> for the insides of fenders. Por15, Zero Rust, I was
> going to buff the insides of the fenders down to
> bare metal. Problem is they are all undercoated. Any
> suggestions on how to get this stuff off?
> I would assume a 80 grind sander disc would plug up
> in no time, plus the paint on the outside of the
> fenders is still in good shape so i do not want to
> damage it with harsh chemicals. There is surface
> rust around the edges of the fenders inside where
> the undercoating was not sprayed or was very thin.
> The cost of Por15 is about 140 a gallon (canadian)
> is this paint truly as good as they state or is
> there another product of lesser dollar that is
> equally as good. The truck will be a daily driver
> year round.
>
> Thanks for the support.


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Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:12:20 -0700
From: Dan Wentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Parking Brake Cable


>I have a bolt clip on the parking brake cable on my '50 F-1. It is half-way
>between the cab and the crossmember cable mounts. Where does this bolt to?
>Is it a transmission or clutch housing bolt?

If I'm not mistaken I think it mounts to the bellhousing.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--chugchugchugchugchug
1998 Explorer--Wow, 59 more payments and it's mine...ugh.

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From: "Carver" ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:41:42 -0700

The stock 292 engine has a crossover pipe from the
front of the left exhaust manifold to the front of
the right exhaust manifold. Just at the front of
the right side there is a valve (I call it the
flapper valve, cuz my dad did). I don't know the
real name.

What does this valve do, and what are the potential
consequences of leaving it open all the time?

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab stock 292

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From: NACatin aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:15:00 EDT
Subject: Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve

This flapper valve is a cold start valve that should be tied to a
thermostatically controlled lever. Look for a coiled spring with a counter
weight attached to a small pin that peeks through. As the hot exhaust passes
it opens and allows the exhaust from the drivers side to escape but before it
does it helps to heat up the engine. I THINK. I disconnected mine and have
yet to have a problem starting my truck. Hopefully we will get those smarter
than me to contribute to this one. Good Luck.
Nick

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From: "Terry" ticnet.com>
Subject: Re: Some stuff for sale
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:52:38 -0500

Just to let any interested party know the radio is already sold(BIG GRIN)

The add said that the truck had been sold and that these are some
left over parts. They are all for a 1956 F100.

The adds read as follow;



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From: "Mike Pacheco" USWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: 61' Unibody for Sell Seattle Area
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:35:46 -0700


I have a friend that has a 61'Shorty Unibody for sell
Here is some info if anyone is interested
Big window, rusty floor and bed
Runs and drives
centerline wheels
223 6 Cylinder, 3 on the tree
Burgundy Velour Seat.
Ask for Mark
206/ 938-7661

Thanks
Mike in Burien

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From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:15:51 -0500

Jeff, this valve is for warming of the cold engine. It traps the exhaust
from one head and thusly the
block and heads warm quickly. The valve has holes in it to allow some
exhaust out and not kill
the engine. It should have a coil spring on it and be free to move easily to
work properly. I don't
think you'll have any major problems wiring it open until colder weather.
"G"
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Subject: [pre61-list] 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve


> The stock 292 engine has a crossover pipe from the
> front of the left exhaust manifold to the front of
> the right exhaust manifold. Just at the front of
> the right side there is a valve (I call it the
> flapper valve, cuz my dad did). I don't know the
> real name.
>
> What does this valve do, and what are the potential
> consequences of leaving it open all the time?
>
> Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab stock 292
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Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:35:03 -0400
From: 47Fred Prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: 292 Exhaust Flapper Valve

Carver wrote:

> the right side there is a valve (I call it the
> flapper valve, cuz my dad did). I don't know the
> real name.
>
> What does this valve do, and what are the potential
> consequences of leaving it open all the time?


Others have said the guts of this little guy, but to be a bit more
technical, its a "heat riser valve" when closed, it raises the exhaust
pressure on one side of the engine VS the opposite bank and causes an
increased gas flow thru the intake manifold heating passage. This
provides extra heat to vaporize the fuel mixture to reduce cold stumble
and rough idle. There are few adverse effects from leaving it open, but
it can cause problems if stuck shut. The spring is a thermostatic
element to open it as the engine heats, the counterweighted lever is to
close it, but also allows the valve to be "blown" open by high pressure
(flow) going down the road.

47 Fred

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From: "Randy Selby" npoint.net>
Subject: Radio ID
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:46:22 -0500

While sorting thru parts, I found an old radio. Don't know what year or
make, but know that it won't fit my '50. I have a picture. If someone can
ID it, mail me and I'll send a picture. Guy I got it from thought it was
mid fifty ford. Said it still worked. Has a round face with knob in the
middle.

Thanks
Randy Selby

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