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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:03:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 00:03:40 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #42 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Fri, 31 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 042 In This Issue: Re: Tranny grinding :( Re: Fuel Pump, 1950 Ford F3 Re: Feul gauge glowing! ADMIN: CustomAuto Re: [pre61-list]Feul gauge glowing! Re: Tranny grinding :( More cooling questions Re: Lifetime Tools Re: Tranny grinding :( Re: Feul gauge glowing! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:05:41 -0800 From: "Ray Cardogno" Subject: Re: Tranny grinding :( OK, on the same ride that I noticed my Gauge was glowing, my tranny started making this constant loud "crunchy-grindy-scrapie-squealy-klunky-chattery" type of noise. This happens when the truck is rolling at any speed till it stops rolling completely. It does not matter what gear it is in or if the clutch is in or out or if the motor is running or not. Seems to me like maybe some kind of bearing trouble on the output shaft or something connected to it. We are talking a 48 F6 4-speed tranny. Could it be the speedo gear stuff? Does anyone think it's feasable to open the tranny and look for bad bearings and if I found one would I be able to find new bearings? OR should I look for a used decent tranny to slap in there? The oil in the tranny has that "grey paint" look to it like there has been moisture in the oil - probably for many years. This is the old gothic beast shown on FTE site Pics. I have just started to really drive it around and the "Bugs" are showing up in style... any help or a nice 4 or 5 speed tranny would be appreciated Ray C Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:00:58 -0600 From: JeffH Subject: Re: Fuel Pump, 1950 Ford F3 Thanks to everyone who responded to this. I decided to go the cheaper route and buy a fuel pump rebuild kit for the original pump. This should be enough to get the pump to stop leaking gas. Back around 15+ years ago, when I was driving "BigTank" on a regular basis, the fuel pump never gave me any problems. Hopefully, that will still hold... :) =====jeffh icon-stl.net=====http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.icon-stl.net/~jeffh======Another fine message brought to you by the Screaming Penguins: Unnoficial site of the "John Madden for President" campaign! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:34:44 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Lee Subject: Re: Feul gauge glowing! Ray, I'll try to explain. A Ford Fuel gauge works by the current through a resistance wire heating a thermocouple which drives the needle in the gauge. This way the fuel level is averaged and the gauge doesn't go up and down when the fuel sloshes in the tank. A variable resistor attatched to the float in the tank controls the amount of current that flows. The wire will stay hot for a while after power is removed. I am not sure it should be 'red hot', but if your gauge is operating correctly it is probably OK. I think most current flows when the tank is full, so if you had a full tank, the wire was as hot as it will get. Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 18:52:23 -0800 >From: "Ray Cardogno" > Subject: Re: [pre61-list]Feul gauge glowing! >My feul gauge seems to have a resistance wire heater >in it that glows red hot in the dark. This glows even >when the ignition switch is off. Probably explains why >I had to put a kill switch on. Is this glow normal? >It's on my 48 and I just noticed it for the 1st time >tonight after going for an eventful night ride. It's a >little >un-nerving to see red hot glow through the slot on the >gauge but somehow I am thinking this is part of the >normal operation of the feul gauge. Can somebody put >me at ease on this? >Ray C __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:33:39 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: CustomAuto Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members: We have a new advertiser on our web site. Since the beginning, our practice with our web site advertisers has been to make a brief announcement. Please show your appreciation to them for helping to support the web site and the lists by checking out their site. Our advertisers enable us to continue to grow the scope of services offered to you on the web site. CustomAuto.com's website is a virtual experience that allows you to display your truck, in your color and then "dress it" with an array of automotive appearance products as if they were actually installed. Once the specified products are chosen, you will be able to purchase the items far below any existing retail price and arrange for immediate delivery. Either visit our site directly and click on their ad or go directly to www.customauto.com for a method of accessorizing your Ford truck that is truly unique. Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program... Regards, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 07:36:49 -0500 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: [pre61-list]Feul gauge glowing! At 06:52 PM 03/31/2000 -0800, Ray Cardogno wrote: >My feul gauge seems to have a resistance wire heater in it that glows red >hot in the dark. This glows even when the ignition switch is off. Probably >explains why I had to put a kill switch on. > >Is this glow normal? It's on my 48 and I just noticed it for the 1st time >tonight after going for an eventful night ride. It's a little un-nerving to >see red hot glow through the slot on the gauge but somehow I am thinking >this is part of the normal operation of the feul gauge. Can somebody put me >at ease on this? > >Ray C The gauges should get power only when the ignition is ON. Do you have a stock wiring harness? Did you convert to 12V? You need something else to drop the voltage to around 6V if you've converted to 12V and have the stock gauge and sending unit. Look at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty/6to12to6/ for instructions on building a voltage regulator which will be more efficient than a resistor for powering your gauges. Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 07:43:00 -0500 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: Tranny grinding :( At 07:05 PM 03/31/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Seems to me like >maybe some kind of bearing trouble on the output shaft or something >connected to it. We are talking a 48 F6 4-speed tranny. Could it be the >speedo gear stuff? Does anyone think it's feasable to open the tranny and >look for bad bearings and if I found one would I be able to find new >bearings? OR should I look for a used decent tranny to slap in there? The >oil in the tranny has that "grey paint" look to it like there has been >moisture in the oil - probably for many years. I don't have any catalogs that cover 1948 trucks (or any of the big trucks, for that matter), but I would think you could get replacement bearings. You might have to get them matched by measuring the old ones. Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html ------------------------------ From: FiftySevenF100 aol.comDate: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:22:27 EST Subject: More cooling questions << From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com>Subject: Re: Radiator/fan position Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:54:01 -0800 The fan sounds like it is too close. I had the same problem with a 61 (292 engine) and fired it up anyways. As soon as I gave it some RPM's the fan flexed towards the radiator and put a nice circle in it, ruining the radiator. Have you tried a shorter fan spacer? I like the electric fans for 2 reason 1. Cools better at idle and slow speeds and 2. save some HP. I solved the problem with my 61 by going to a shorter fan spacer. >> FTEers, I have just read an article in the latest Classic Trucks magazine that used the electric fan in "another leading brand" of truck. How many on the list use this type of fan? I read an article in the past from Jack Chisenhall (Vintage Air) that stated you should use you engine driven fan with the room provided in a truck (he hasn't seen my setup!). Is the puller style (inside the engine compartment) better than a pusher (in front of the radiator). After pulling my original radiator out of my "junk" pile, I won't use it. Also, how close to engine pulleys would anyone suggest to have the radiator hose rest? What are ways of getting around this? Are the stainless braided lines the best way (and how much should I expect to pay)? Glenn in TN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 08:44:02 -0800 From: Marv Miller Subject: Re: Lifetime Tools Ed Ellston > Subject: Re: Lifetime oil/tires > Blaspheming, blaspheming!!! I've used both cheap > tools and good tools and I screw it up either way. Yea, but when I'm putting a lot of torque on a hand-held wrench of some sort, I want a top-quality tool. I've busted up too many knuckles in my life to cheapen-out when it comes to hand tools. Indian Vanadium just isn't the same, though I'm beginning to believe that the Chinese stuff may be better. I've got some Chinese knock-offs of the SnapOn needle-nose pliers that have done very well in the longer-run. YMMV -Marv- ------------------------------ From: "Gary L. Perry" Subject: Re: Tranny grinding :( Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 20:16:12 -0500 I have what I believe is a T-98 4-spd out of a 76 F-600 'cept it has a large pilot bearing diameter. Not sure if bolt pattern is same for older trucks, but was same as 56 COE 2-ton I have. It has the park-brake assembly on it, and speedo-cable. I'm in NE Indiana if interested, I understand front shaft can be changed to smaller size for p/up use or ? The clutch hub splines are the same size as small shaft. $50.oo if you pick-up, I won't send it. "G" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:02:22 -0800 From: "Ray Cardogno" Subject: Re: Feul gauge glowing! This makes a lot of sense. The feul gage has been reading full for a few days and I was expecting it to go down a bit sooner as I have been using gas. Perhaps my sender is shorted out, providing NO resistance and thereby really glowing that sucker. It is just like a toaster element. Thanks for the lead. I'll try disconnecting the sender first ... Ray -- On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:34:44 Dan Lee wrote: >Ray, >I'll try to explain. >A Ford Fuel gauge works by the current through a >resistance wire heating a thermocouple which drives >the needle in the gauge. This way the fuel level is >averaged and the gauge doesn't go up and down when the >fuel sloshes in the tank. A variable resistor >attatched to the float in the tank controls the amount >of current that flows. The wire will stay hot for a >while after power is removed. I am not sure it should >be 'red hot', but if your gauge is operating correctly >it is probably OK. I think most current flows when the >tank is full, so if you had a full tank, the wire was >as hot as it will get. > >Dan Lee >'53 F100 >400C-4V Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ End of pre61-list Digest V2000 #42 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck List Send posts to pre61-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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