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pre61-list Digest Wed, 29 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 040

In This Issue:
Re: (No subject)Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:27:59 -0600
Re: Vakvoline for Older engines
Re: Electronic Ignitions
One more oil comment!
Re: One more oil comment!
radio location
Re: 6v versus 12v--distributor and coil
Re: Headlight problem
Re: pre61-list digest Shop Manuals
Re: Truck radio on e-bay
Electronic Ignition
Re: Light Switch
Re: One more oil comment!
Re: Headlight problem
C6 Kickdown

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From: "Terry" ticnet.com>
Subject: Re: (No subject)Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:27:59 -0600

There is no difference in a 6 or 12 volt distributor. Most coils run on 6
volt. They will have either an external ballest resistitor, a resistance
wire running to the coil or an internal resistor to drop the voltage. The
earlier 12 volt systems used an external ballest resistor. They also had a
12 volt hot running to the coil from the start position of the ignition. Ths
allowed a hotter spark when cranking the engine. Then it drops down to 6
volts when running. What you have is correct, it just probably does not look
like it is. Drop in an electronic module and fix all your problems at the
same time.


my old 53 has been converted to 12v--but there some 6v stuff still on the
truck.
like the coil/distributor...
the line between the two currently has a "reducer" inline--but this seems
weird.
how can i effectively meld my 12v system to the current 6v coil/distributor?
do i just need to get a new 12v coil?



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From: STUDJAMES aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:43:45 EST
Subject: Re: Vakvoline for Older engines

I thought strongly about the new Valvoline for older engines, but decided I
would wait and check further. Having had 2 vehicles go over 200k, felt
frequent oil changes had more to do with longevity than additives. Still may
use it after hearing more. good luck, Jim 54 F-100

<<
I just changed the oil on my 48 with Valvolene oil formulated for older
engines. It is a heavy duty oil with extra detergents and has friction
additives and seal conditioners. Does anybody know any reason I should NOT
use this oil? What do folks use in their old flatheads?
>>

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From: flat-head juno.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:14:04 -0700
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignitions

My 49 F-3 still has the stock distributor, and is still 6 volt positive
ground. But Like I said before, I didn't get my setup directly from
Pertronics.

Mike Wright
Salt Lake City
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:09:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Dennis Moody yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Electronic Ignitions


I was thinking more along the lines of changing to a
12 volt system with a new coil. I know people have
installed the Pertronix unit to a flathead engine...i
just don't know if they used a stock distributor or a
modified one from another vehicle.

Dennis Moody

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From: FiftySevenF100 aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:02:03 EST
Subject: One more oil comment!

FTEers,

Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the
other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems
much too good to be true (and these usually are not).

Glenn in TN

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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:31:20 -0500
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" world.std.com>
Subject: Re: One more oil comment!

At 07:02 PM 03/29/2000 -0500, FiftySevenF100 aol.com wrote:
>FTEers,
>
>Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the
>other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems
>much too good to be true (and these usually are not).
>
>Glenn in TN

I haven't used Amsoil, but that's a very different claim than what I've
heard from Amsoil dealers on other automotive lists: he does claim (based
on Amsoil literature) that the various additives in Amsoil do not break
down as quickly as the additives in other oils and will allow you to go
much longer between oil changes, but you still should change the oil filter
at 'normal' intervals. He also recommends getting your oil analyzed for
breakdown and metal particles, etc., which may be more expensive and more
hassle for most cars than simply changing the oil more often using
conventional oil.

Amsoil may also have some sort of cleanable oil _filter_, but I don't know
anything about that.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html


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From: "mark" argolink.net>
Subject: radio location
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:52:17 -0600

I just got a radio for my 1959 F100 and I need to know where to install it.
would someone on the list be able to give me a measurement from the center
of the fan switch (that's the furthest knob to the right in my truck) and
the volume switch on the radio?
thanks,
Mark

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://209.144.1.250/mcarter/59/



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Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:56:45 -0800
From: Dan Wentz earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 6v versus 12v--distributor and coil


>how can i effectively meld my 12v system to the current 6v coil/distributor?
>do i just need to get a new 12v coil?
>more importantly, does the distributor (and points/rotor/plugs) care about
>the 6v/12v issue (i.e.: is the current converted by the coil to something
>the distributor can handle?) any other performance issues?

The coil cares about voltage--so you need a 12 volt one. Get a ballast
resistor as well, unless your coil has one built in (most don't but I had a
Standard Blue Streak once that did). That's all. The distributor and
plugs don't care about voltage.

~Dan

1950 F1 351C--Oh just stop being difficult and work already!
1998 Explorer--205 HP, and the gas mileage to prove it.

Visit my Bonus Built 48-52 F Series Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~dwentz


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From: "Rick Kellum" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Headlight problem
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:01:33 CST



>From: "Paul J. Donadio" maristb.marist.edu>
>Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [pre61-list] Headlight problem
>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:31:43 -0500
>
>Fellow list members,
>
>I am having a problem with the quad headlights on my '59 F-100. The nature
>of the problem is that it is either "high beams or no beams." In the low
>beam mode, I have no headlights. In the high beam mode all four headlights


Sounds to me like the wireing on the dimmer switch is wrong.
Check to be sure that you dont have both wires on one side.
Hopes this helps


Rick Kellum
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From: "Rick Kellum" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: pre61-list digest Shop Manuals
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:21:37 CST



>From: Rwilson50 aol.com
>Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [pre61-list] pre61-list digest Shop Manuals
>Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:36:19 EST
>
> I had two manuals passed on to me from an older fellow cleaning out his
>garage that may be of use to a FTE member. the 1st one is a 1956-57
>Fordomatic trans manual (64 pages) the other is a 1958 truck manual(40
>pages)
>dealing mostly with t/converters and 4/5/and 8 speed gearcases. send



Sir; I would love to have the Fordomatic trans manual as I am building a 56
with an orginal fordamatic in it.
Please letme know how send payment if I am chosen.

Thanks Rick Kellum

redbulldog hotmail.com



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From: "Robert Jones" pmihwy.com>
Subject: Re: Truck radio on e-bay
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:58:10 -0600

If anyone is interested there is a Mercury/Ford radio on E-bay. The only
difference between this radio and the '48-50 truck radio is the Merc' has a
chrome bezel, the knobs are different and the mounting brackets are
different. If you are not too concerned with an exact truck radio and don't
mind fabricating brackets (which you won't see unless you crawl under the
dash) this radio is the same as the Ford trucks'. I bought my truck radio
from a guy who had two Merc' radios and they were basically the same radio
except for the above mentioned differences. Take a look.

The page address is
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295757613

Good luck
Bob Jones
1949 F-2


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From: Oldtrukman webtv.net (R. Pietsch)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:25:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Electronic Ignition

Hi all.
I am planing on installing one of the Pertronics units on my '56
very soon. The BIG swap meet is coming up on April 7,8,9, in Portland
Oregon and I should be able to find one there. I found some vendors that
carried it last year, but not before I had spent all my money elsewhere,
and I just never got around to placing my order to the mail order
places.

I have one question about this unit however.
When I do install it, do I still need to go through the ballast
resistor, or can the resistor now be eliminated from the system
altogether?

Any input on this is greatly appreciated.

Oh by the way. Our local truck club, Henry's Half Tons, always has
a booth at the swap meet. I will be working the booth on sunday morning,
so if any of you are planning to attend, (and you should. It's one of
the largest swap meets on the west coast, if not THE biggest) be sure to
stop by and say hi.



Rix56 'The Rat'
351C/C6


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From: NACatin aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:06:27 EST
Subject: Re: Light Switch

I have a 52 F4 and I'm in the process of rewiring with a new harness. The
truck was converted to 12V and I'll use a voltage reducer for the gauges.
The heater motor is 12V.

???: I have an original light switch from a 52. Do I need to be concern
about the 12V going into the switch? All of the bulbs in the gauges are 12V
as well. What else should I be concerned about. Does the horn work on a
specific voltage? Many thanks.

Nick

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From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:25:21 -0500
Subject: Re: One more oil comment!

I've heard the same story. All you supposed to do is change the filter and
replace the oil that was in the filter with new oil. This is supposed to
rejuvenate the oil that has broken down. I don't know that I believe all of it.
I think the only way to get all of the impurities out is to do a complete oil
change.

-Ted




FTEers,

Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the
other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems
much too good to be true (and these usually are not).

Glenn in TN
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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" pge.com>
Subject: Re: Headlight problem
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:39:40 -0800

Paul,

I know you said you checked your dimmer switch, but I had a 69 C*maro that
did exactly the same thing. Changed out the dimmer and problem went away.

Dennis 55F100

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> From: Rick Kellum[SMTP:redbulldog hotmail.com]
> Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:01 PM
> To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [pre61-list] Re: Headlight problem
>
>
>
> >From: "Paul J. Donadio" maristb.marist.edu>
> >Reply-To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com
> >Subject: [pre61-list] Headlight problem
> >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:31:43 -0500
> >
> >Fellow list members,
> >
> >I am having a problem with the quad headlights on my '59 F-100. The
> nature
> >of the problem is that it is either "high beams or no beams." In the low
> >beam mode, I have no headlights. In the high beam mode all four
> headlights
>
>
>

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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" pge.com>
Subject: C6 Kickdown
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:34:37 -0800

Hi all,

I have a C6 in my 55 that the original owner installed an modified the
tranny linkage. After 3 years of running around without a kickdown I'm
thinking of putting a kickdown cable back on the transmission. My question
is; Where does the cable attach to the tranny, at the linkage or some other
point on the transmission. I would sort of like to know if I have to....


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