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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:34:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:34:03 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #40 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Wed, 29 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 040 In This Issue: Re: (No subject)Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:27:59 -0600 Re: Vakvoline for Older engines Re: Electronic Ignitions One more oil comment! Re: One more oil comment! radio location Re: 6v versus 12v--distributor and coil Re: Headlight problem Re: pre61-list digest Shop Manuals Re: Truck radio on e-bay Electronic Ignition Re: Light Switch Re: One more oil comment! Re: Headlight problem C6 Kickdown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Terry" Subject: Re: (No subject)Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:27:59 -0600 There is no difference in a 6 or 12 volt distributor. Most coils run on 6 volt. They will have either an external ballest resistitor, a resistance wire running to the coil or an internal resistor to drop the voltage. The earlier 12 volt systems used an external ballest resistor. They also had a 12 volt hot running to the coil from the start position of the ignition. Ths allowed a hotter spark when cranking the engine. Then it drops down to 6 volts when running. What you have is correct, it just probably does not look like it is. Drop in an electronic module and fix all your problems at the same time. my old 53 has been converted to 12v--but there some 6v stuff still on the truck. like the coil/distributor... the line between the two currently has a "reducer" inline--but this seems weird. how can i effectively meld my 12v system to the current 6v coil/distributor? do i just need to get a new 12v coil? ------------------------------ From: STUDJAMES Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:43:45 EST Subject: Re: Vakvoline for Older engines I thought strongly about the new Valvoline for older engines, but decided I would wait and check further. Having had 2 vehicles go over 200k, felt frequent oil changes had more to do with longevity than additives. Still may use it after hearing more. good luck, Jim 54 F-100 << I just changed the oil on my 48 with Valvolene oil formulated for older engines. It is a heavy duty oil with extra detergents and has friction additives and seal conditioners. Does anybody know any reason I should NOT use this oil? What do folks use in their old flatheads? >> ------------------------------ From: flat-head Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 15:14:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Electronic Ignitions My 49 F-3 still has the stock distributor, and is still 6 volt positive ground. But Like I said before, I didn't get my setup directly from Pertronics. Mike Wright Salt Lake City ------ Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:09:50 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Moody Subject: Re: Electronic Ignitions I was thinking more along the lines of changing to a 12 volt system with a new coil. I know people have installed the Pertronix unit to a flathead engine...i just don't know if they used a stock distributor or a modified one from another vehicle. Dennis Moody --- ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: FiftySevenF100 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:02:03 EST Subject: One more oil comment! FTEers, Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems much too good to be true (and these usually are not). Glenn in TN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:31:20 -0500 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: One more oil comment! At 07:02 PM 03/29/2000 -0500, FiftySevenF100 >FTEers, > >Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the >other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems >much too good to be true (and these usually are not). > >Glenn in TN I haven't used Amsoil, but that's a very different claim than what I've heard from Amsoil dealers on other automotive lists: he does claim (based on Amsoil literature) that the various additives in Amsoil do not break down as quickly as the additives in other oils and will allow you to go much longer between oil changes, but you still should change the oil filter at 'normal' intervals. He also recommends getting your oil analyzed for breakdown and metal particles, etc., which may be more expensive and more hassle for most cars than simply changing the oil more often using conventional oil. Amsoil may also have some sort of cleanable oil _filter_, but I don't know anything about that. Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html ------------------------------ From: "mark" Subject: radio location Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:52:17 -0600 I just got a radio for my 1959 F100 and I need to know where to install it. would someone on the list be able to give me a measurement from the center of the fan switch (that's the furthest knob to the right in my truck) and the volume switch on the radio? thanks, Mark http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://209.144.1.250/mcarter/59/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 16:56:45 -0800 From: Dan Wentz Subject: Re: 6v versus 12v--distributor and coil >how can i effectively meld my 12v system to the current 6v coil/distributor? >do i just need to get a new 12v coil? >more importantly, does the distributor (and points/rotor/plugs) care about >the 6v/12v issue (i.e.: is the current converted by the coil to something >the distributor can handle?) any other performance issues? The coil cares about voltage--so you need a 12 volt one. Get a ballast resistor as well, unless your coil has one built in (most don't but I had a Standard Blue Streak once that did). That's all. The distributor and plugs don't care about voltage. ~Dan 1950 F1 351C--Oh just stop being difficult and work already! 1998 Explorer--205 HP, and the gas mileage to prove it. Visit my Bonus Built 48-52 F Series Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~dwentz ------------------------------ From: "Rick Kellum" Subject: Re: Headlight problem Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:01:33 CST >From: "Paul J. Donadio" >Reply-To: pre61-list >To: pre61-list >Subject: [pre61-list] Headlight problem >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:31:43 -0500 > >Fellow list members, > >I am having a problem with the quad headlights on my '59 F-100. The nature >of the problem is that it is either "high beams or no beams." In the low >beam mode, I have no headlights. In the high beam mode all four headlights Sounds to me like the wireing on the dimmer switch is wrong. Check to be sure that you dont have both wires on one side. Hopes this helps Rick Kellum >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Rick Kellum" Subject: Re: pre61-list digest Shop Manuals Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 23:21:37 CST >From: Rwilson50 >Reply-To: pre61-list >To: pre61-list >Subject: [pre61-list] pre61-list digest Shop Manuals >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:36:19 EST > > I had two manuals passed on to me from an older fellow cleaning out his >garage that may be of use to a FTE member. the 1st one is a 1956-57 >Fordomatic trans manual (64 pages) the other is a 1958 truck manual(40 >pages) >dealing mostly with t/converters and 4/5/and 8 speed gearcases. send Sir; I would love to have the Fordomatic trans manual as I am building a 56 with an orginal fordamatic in it. Please letme know how send payment if I am chosen. Thanks Rick Kellum redbulldog ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Robert Jones" Subject: Re: Truck radio on e-bay Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:58:10 -0600 If anyone is interested there is a Mercury/Ford radio on E-bay. The only difference between this radio and the '48-50 truck radio is the Merc' has a chrome bezel, the knobs are different and the mounting brackets are different. If you are not too concerned with an exact truck radio and don't mind fabricating brackets (which you won't see unless you crawl under the dash) this radio is the same as the Ford trucks'. I bought my truck radio from a guy who had two Merc' radios and they were basically the same radio except for the above mentioned differences. Take a look. The page address is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=295757613 Good luck Bob Jones 1949 F-2 ------------------------------ From: Oldtrukman Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 01:25:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Electronic Ignition Hi all. I am planing on installing one of the Pertronics units on my '56 very soon. The BIG swap meet is coming up on April 7,8,9, in Portland Oregon and I should be able to find one there. I found some vendors that carried it last year, but not before I had spent all my money elsewhere, and I just never got around to placing my order to the mail order places. I have one question about this unit however. When I do install it, do I still need to go through the ballast resistor, or can the resistor now be eliminated from the system altogether? Any input on this is greatly appreciated. Oh by the way. Our local truck club, Henry's Half Tons, always has a booth at the swap meet. I will be working the booth on sunday morning, so if any of you are planning to attend, (and you should. It's one of the largest swap meets on the west coast, if not THE biggest) be sure to stop by and say hi. Rix56 'The Rat' 351C/C6 ------------------------------ From: NACatin Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:06:27 EST Subject: Re: Light Switch I have a 52 F4 and I'm in the process of rewiring with a new harness. The truck was converted to 12V and I'll use a voltage reducer for the gauges. The heater motor is 12V. ???: I have an original light switch from a 52. Do I need to be concern about the 12V going into the switch? All of the bulbs in the gauges are 12V as well. What else should I be concerned about. Does the horn work on a specific voltage? Many thanks. Nick ------------------------------ From: tfreeman Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:25:21 -0500 Subject: Re: One more oil comment! I've heard the same story. All you supposed to do is change the filter and replace the oil that was in the filter with new oil. This is supposed to rejuvenate the oil that has broken down. I don't know that I believe all of it. I think the only way to get all of the impurities out is to do a complete oil change. -Ted FTEers, Has anyone on the list used the Amsoil product? I heard a commercial the other day on the radio that said you NEVER have to change it!!!! That seems much too good to be true (and these usually are not). Glenn in TN ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" Subject: Re: Headlight problem Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:39:40 -0800 Paul, I know you said you checked your dimmer switch, but I had a 69 C*maro that did exactly the same thing. Changed out the dimmer and problem went away. Dennis 55F100 > ---------- > From: Rick Kellum[SMTP:redbulldog > Reply To: pre61-list > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:01 PM > To: pre61-list > Subject: [pre61-list] Re: Headlight problem > > > > >From: "Paul J. Donadio" > >Reply-To: pre61-list > >To: pre61-list > >Subject: [pre61-list] Headlight problem > >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:31:43 -0500 > > > >Fellow list members, > > > >I am having a problem with the quad headlights on my '59 F-100. The > nature > >of the problem is that it is either "high beams or no beams." In the low > >beam mode, I have no headlights. In the high beam mode all four > headlights > > > ------------------------------ From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" Subject: C6 Kickdown Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:34:37 -0800 Hi all, I have a C6 in my 55 that the original owner installed an modified the tranny linkage. After 3 years of running around without a kickdown I'm thinking of putting a kickdown cable back on the transmission. 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