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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:31:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:31:38 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #36 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Fri, 24 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 036 In This Issue: Hard to start - won't stay running........ Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ 1948 f5 Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ Fuel Pump Re: Vacuum Operated Fuel Pump Steeing box removal Re: Fuel Pump Re: Steeing box removal '57 Springs, etc. Re: Fuel Pump, 1950 Ford F3 Re: 1948 f5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Photo Bug" Subject: Hard to start - won't stay running........ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:17:42 -0000 I have my Grandfathers '50 F-3. I've rebuilt the flathead V-8 with the help of a friend who used to tweak and race them when he was in high school. We've driven several 100 miles...now it doesn't want to start and when it does, it runs for about 1 mile or less then dies. The coil is very hot...should it be? What could be the problem? Thanks for your help. Tom photobug netnitco.net ------------------------------ From: Fordf3 aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:29:16 EST Subject: Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ I have a 48 f-3 and I had a problem with sludge and rust in fuel tank.The fuel comes directly off the bottom of the tank.i took out the tank fitting and put a 1"piece of copper in it to raise it off the bottom.I also use a fuel filter i cut into the fuel line ahead of the fuel pump.i have to change the filter often but it runs well Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:38:46 -0500 From: WIlliam Hendrickson Subject: 1948 f5 Hello All, Could someone tell me what exactly an F5 is??? Is it the 1.5 ton?? Thanks Bill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:29:28 -0500 From: "Thomas J. Teixeira" Subject: Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ At 08:17 PM 03/24/2000 +0000, Photo Bug wrote: > >I have my Grandfathers '50 F-3. I've rebuilt the flathead V-8 with the help >of a friend who used to tweak and race them when he was in high school. >We've driven several 100 miles...now it doesn't want to start and when it >does, it runs for about 1 mile or less then dies. The coil is very >hot...should it be? What could be the problem? Thanks for your help. I don't think the coil should get very hot. Are you still running on 6V or did you convert to 12V? If you converted to 12V, did you change the ballast resistor and/or the coil to match? Is the condensor in the distributor good? Can you get a good spark if you disconnect a spark plug wire and hold it near the engine (use something to insulate your hand if you do this)? Tom Teixeira '35 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://world.std.com/~tjt/35Pickup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:44:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Ellston Subject: Re: Hard to start - won't stay running........ I have a similar problem with hard starting with my 49 F-1. I think it may be electrical because I have no spark at the plugs. I intend to replace the coil and the coil wire to see if that helps. Even when it does run I have to baby the heck out of it to go more than 2 miles at a time. When it stops I have to let it sit for awhile before I try to start it again. The truck could use rewiring but I don't think this is the cause of the problem. I just might have some rust in the fuel tank because there is a leak in the back window that drips right down to the tank. Anyone else have some ideas. Spring is here and I would like the old truck to start running and for me to have some degree of trust in going more than one mile at a time. Ed and the effie --- Fordf3 aol.com wrote: > I have a 48 f-3 and I had a problem with sludge and > rust in fuel tank.The > fuel comes directly off the bottom of the tank.i > took out the tank fitting > and put a 1"piece of copper in it to raise it off > the bottom.I also use a > fuel filter i cut into the fuel line ahead of the > fuel pump.i have to change > the filter often but it runs well > Ed > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: > listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject > of the > message. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:18:29 -0500 From: The Neighbors Subject: Fuel Pump JeffH said: originality, but am not sure what benefits an electric pump would offer. Any comments?" I assume by "vacuum pump" you mean the good ol' fashioned mechanical pump mounted on the engine. My experience with aftermarket electric pumps has been decent. I confess I prefer a mechanicl pump, though. -- Don Neighbors '54 F250 Named Grover AFTE Grand Poobah "Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most innaccesible part of the vehicle." grover ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:34:56 -0800 From: Marv Miller Subject: Re: Vacuum Operated Fuel Pump JeffH > Subject: Fuel Pump, 1950 Ford F3 > Of course, it is a vacuum operated pump. What is this? Are you sure that it isn't operated by an arm riding on the camshaft? Pumps of this vintage often had, in addition, a vacuum pump enclosed in the same housing as the fuel pump to aid in windshield wiper operation during periods of low manifold vacuum, such as during hard acceleration. That does not mean that the fuel was pumped by a vacuum. What you've described is somethiong completely new to me. -Marv- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:43:38 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Subject: Steeing box removal Forwarded for a friend: "I am putting power steering in me '51 F1. Using toyota 4x4 conversion...hear it works well...anyway, am looking for procedure in removing old steering box from the old steering column...is the column tied in inside the steering box with snap clip or something similar?...need them apart just to remove from the truck..." I think that some of you have done this. Any help would be great. Scott 52 F1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 23:14:32 -0600 From: JeffH Subject: Re: Fuel Pump At 11:18 PM 3/24/2000 -0500, Don wrote: >JeffH said: >originality, but am not sure what benefits an electric pump >would offer. Any comments?" > > I assume by "vacuum pump" you mean the good ol' fashioned mechanical >pump mounted on the engine. My experience with aftermarket electric >pumps has been decent. I confess I prefer a mechanicl pump, though. Er, oops, heh heh. Well, I'm talking about the original fuel pump, which I guess is mechanical then. Anyway, what are the differences between mechanical and electrical? Does the mechanical have a filter? From what little I know, it would not be too hard to install the electrical... =====jeffh icon-stl.net=====http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.icon-stl.net/~jeffh====== Another fine message brought to you by the Screaming Penguins: Unnoficial site of the "John Madden for President" campaign! ------------------------------ From: "Gary L. Perry" Subject: Re: Steeing box removal Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 04:50:27 -0500 You need to remove the box, column as one piece. This requires removing the steering wheel, wire connections, Pitman arm and floor plates and seals, THEN the box mount bolts and the mast mount from the dash. It's dropped- out of truck down and under frame. You will need a later model column to use the Toyota box. Don't know if Toy stuff will fit or if you should just use a GM column for ease of assembly. "G" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:40:05 -0800 From: Ken Toop Subject: '57 Springs, etc. This year's phase of the '57 F-100 project is to be steering and front suspension (well, probably just suspension--but it's ok to dream.) The ride and steering are getting really nasty, or, at 51, my shoulder joints and tail bone are getting softer. I have been considering a number of options. Among them are rebuilding the existing front springs, using the poly slider-type material between the leaves, or going to the monoleaf spring, along with new hangers, bushings, etc. Any advice or opinion concerning either route? I have a 6-leaf front spring. Sometimes I see project trucks in the magazines that seem to have more leaves in their front springs. How many should there be? Also, what have others done to improve steering? I am looking at the ram assist currently. It looks like the simplest to do as a backyard project, in spite of the $650 cost. My kingpins and tie rods are new, although there is a little play in the drag link. I don't see drag links offered in the catalogs. What does one do, rebuild them? Thanks, everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:55:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Lee Subject: Re: Fuel Pump, 1950 Ford F3 Jeff, I use a Carter Electric pump on my '53. However I have a 12V system. Electric pumps offer a couple of advantages over mechanical pumps. The first is reliability. The next is constant regulated (5PSI) pressure. A couple of things that you will need if you decide to install an electric pump are: Install an in line fuel filter on the inlet side of the pump. Electric pumps don't like dirty fuel. Install an oil pressure cutoff switch, that switches off the pump when oil pressure drops to zero. This is a safety precaution. If you were in an accident and you fuel line were cut, the electric pump would continue to pump fuel onto the ground. However without fuel the engine would stop and oil pressure would drop, shutting off the pump. This assumes that you have decent oil pressure when the engine is running(> a few pounds). Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 19:41:43 -0600 > From: JeffH > Subject: > > Well, it appears that my fuel pump is leaking a bit > and in > need of replacement. Of course, it is a vacuum > operated pump. > I noticed that there are several places that sell 6V > electric > pumps for my engine, which I guess are "better" than > the > vacuum pumps. I'm concerned more with reliability > than > originality, but am not sure what benefits an > electric pump > would offer. Any comments? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:31:52 -0800 From: "Ray Cardogno" Subject: Re: 1948 f5 yup -- On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 21:38:46 WIlliam Hendrickson wrote: >Hello All, >Could someone tell me what exactly an F5 is??? >Is it the 1.5 ton?? >Thanks >Bill > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with>the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the >message. > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ End of pre61-list Digest V2000 #36 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck List Send posts to pre61-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. 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