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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:16:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2000 01:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #20 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Fri, 03 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 020 In This Issue: Re: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! 48 truck manual Re: 48 truck manual Re: Father/Son Project Elbow for oil line Updated 48 to 52 web page Re: vacumm Ford trucks on TV Re: Ford trucks on TV Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in total performance Re: 48 truck manual Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in webb site !!! Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in 57 - 60's Re: Elbow for oil line street truck request from glenn in TN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 04:58:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Ellston Subject: Re: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! That whole process is rather confusing. I subscribed yesterday or the day before and now I'm getting messages back that I don't understand. I hope they get it right soon. 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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Lindsay" Subject: 48 truck manual Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:36:08 -0600 Hello, I recently purchased a 48 ford 1 ton. But it is in peices. Are there any manuals that show where each peice is supposed to go. Thanks, Roy ------------------------------ From: "Howard H. Tarnoff" Subject: Re: 48 truck manual Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:46:39 -0500 Roy, If you have Hemmings look under books and literature. I have also picked up some great items on eBay under MISC:AUTOMOTIVE:COLLECTOR VEHICLES, not under automotive. Good luck, Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindsay" To: Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: [pre61-list] 48 truck manual > Hello, > I recently purchased a 48 ford 1 ton. But it is in peices. Are there any > manuals that show where each peice is supposed to go. > Thanks, > Roy > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body of the > message. ------------------------------ From: HDMel95 aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:39:20 EST Subject: Re: Father/Son Project In a message dated 3/2/2000 10:32:35 PM, you wrote: < Subject: Re: Hot rodding a '51 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:10:42 -0800 Charles; Speaking as a dad (with grown offspring), and a life-long gearhead who loves his Fords and Chevys (and BMWs) equally, I'd suggest that you keep doing what you have been doing which, judging by your posts, is to continue to treat your youngster with respect. While his opinion about the best engine for his F-1 may not quite fit with yours, be proud that he does have an opinion--and some ideas about how he wants his truck to be. There are far worse choices in life than putting a Chevy V8 in your Ford truck.>> Mike, I just couldn't have said it any better. With all the other "Projects" our youth is active in these days, such as joy sticks in front of computers and gang banging, building a street rod with your son with your guidance and his vision and elbow grease is far better than arguing over which engine to use. My father, in the sixties, wanted me to keep my 40 Ford completely stock and felt hot rodding was stupid. So I built it mostly by myself. Not a father son project. I'm sure he wishes he would have participated in the project today (he's gone) I know I do. And lastly, no matter what path you take, building anything and saving any old classic vehicle is better than what the environmentalist want to do with them. You know, crush them for gas guzzling and tax credits. A tear comes to my eye every time I see those flattened out classic beauties being shipped away to become new "whatevers." Mel 53 f100 34 5w 34 Roadster 70 El Camino ------------------------------ From: rturner SPP.ORG Subject: Elbow for oil line Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:48:17 -0600 Does any one know where I can get a replacement elbow fitting for a 1950 F1 239 cu in flatty. The elbow attaches to the block, left rear side of the engine near the oil pressure sending unit, and feeds the line that goes to the oil inlet on the oil filter. Randy 50 F1 Ford Pickup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 09:14:03 -0700 From: Randall Colgan Subject: Updated 48 to 52 web page Just a note to the newbys that I have my page up and running again and is especially helpful for the 48 to 52 F1 croud. Check out some of my links too. Randall Colgan St. Albert, Alberta, Canada 1952 Ford F-1 pickup http://www.ford-trucks.com/trueblue/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Lee Subject: Re: vacumm shawn, That was a great buy. You can plug the vacuum wipers into any 'manifold' vacuum port. However I would recommend converting electric wipers. You can get a kit from Mid-fifties 1-800-252-1956. Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V >From: "shawn" >Subject: vacumm >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:55:56 -0800 >I just bought a 54 F100 recently, ready to run, and >sold my other 54 body frame etc. Unfortunately >i have discovered the one i just purchased has vacumm >wipers :( that were unplugged. Were is the best >place to install the vacumm hose on the engine. I am >running a 372 with a 750 Holley, and manifold. >Also is there a reasonably inexpensive way to convert >this over to 12 volt electric wipers. the truck is >rewired to 12 volts now. >btw fella's, i bought this truck for a song. its one >of those deals were mom paid all the bills for the son >to get it done and he ran into trouble and she wanted >whatever money she could get out of it asap, Black >1954 F100 (super straight) new Ta's and mags, new 327, >and new turbo 400 with a shift kit, all new brakes, >new chromed grill and bumbers, new running boards, >hooker headers, isky cam, its quite lumpy :) new B&M >Star Shifter. all it needs is a lowering job, and new >wood in the box, and also a front windsheild as it has >a rock chip on the drivers side (of coarse it has to >be that side) I offered 3400.00 cash on the table >right now, and she took it. so i ended up selling my >project f100 which needed everything, the difference >in cost out of my pocket was 400.00 after buying and >selling. this is my first f100 that i can actually >DRIVE. i hope to get another as well that is restored >to original as my wife likes the old farm truck look >better than a rod. >Cheers! any help on the wipers would be gratefull. >Thankyou. Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:55:56 -0800 I just bought a 54 F100 recently, ready to run, and sold my other 54 body frame etc. Unfortunately i have discovered the one i just purchased has vacumm wipers :( that were unplugged. Were is the best place to install the vacumm hose on the engine. I am running a 372 with a 750 Holley, and manifold. Also is there a reasonably inexpensive way to convert this over to 12 volt electric wipers. the truck is rewired to 12 volts now. btw fella's, i bought this truck for a song. its one of those deals were mom paid all the bills for the son to get it done and he ran into trouble and she wanted whatever money she could get out of it asap, Black 1954 F100 (super straight) new Ta's and mags, new 327, and new turbo 400 with a shift kit, all new brakes, new chromed grill and bumbers, new running boards, hooker headers, isky cam, its quite lumpy :) new B&M Star Shifter. all it needs is a lowering job, and new wood in the box, and also a front windsheild as it has a rock chip on the drivers side (of coarse it has to be that side) I offered 3400.00 cash on the table right now, and she took it. so i ended up selling my project f100 which needed everything, the difference in cost out of my pocket was 400.00 after buying and selling. this is my first f100 that i can actually DRIVE. i hope to get another as well that is restored to original as my wife likes the old farm truck look better than a rod. Cheers! any help on the wipers would be gratefull. Thankyou. --- Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server > ========================================================== > Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing > List > > Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com > > To unsubscribe, send email to: > listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject > of the > message. > ========================================================== > > ------------------------------------ > pre61-list Digest Wed, 01 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 > Issue: 019 > > In This Issue: > Re: radiator for 1958 F100 > Re: radiator for 1958 F100 > Re: radiator for 1958 F4 > power assist steering > Are we visible yet? > 53 Panel Model > Re: Are we visible yet? > '58 Radiator > Re: The Forge!! > 49 Tranny > Re: Hot rodding a '51 > Re: 58 radiator > (no subject) > ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based > email!!! > vacumm > Re: Bed Floor Removal > pfgroup-list > Re: fan blade > Re: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based > email!!! > Re: vacumm > Re: Hot rodding a '51 > 58 radiator > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) > From: Ed Ellston > Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F100 > > Laura: > > Have you checked with a local radiator repair shop. > I've had radiators rebuild at a local radiator shop > at > a reasonable price. If you plan to drive the truck > every day, I would suggest you have it rebuilt. > > Ed and the effie. > > --- Laura Nelson > wrote: > > Dear Truckers, > > > > I'm pretty sure I need a new radiator for my 1958 > > F100 with 292 > > engine. It's been losing alot of coolant lately > > (more than a gallon a day) > > and steam was almost pouring out the front last > > night even after I'd > > turned off the engine. I've been looking and > can't > > find one here in town > > where I live, Houston. Found one at Sacramento > > Ford, but it's pretty > > expensive. I have a shop manual, but no clue if > > there are other vehicle's > > radiators that could be an adequate substitute. > Any > > ideas? Thanks so much. > > > > Laura Nelson > > > > > > > ========================================================== > > To unsubscribe, send email to: > > listar ford-trucks.com with > > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body > > of the > > message. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------ > > From: NACatin aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:17:34 EST > Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F100 > > Write to Jay in CT he has a radiator that MIGHT fit > your application. He is > very reasonable and a nice guy as well. Please tell > him I sent you, I've > bought a fair amount of great parts from him. He is > jgienty ntplx.net. If > he cant help try Barry CLUSSY 38. He is equally > reasonable and available > to help. > > Good luck, > > Nick > > ------------------------------ > > From: NACatin aol.com > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:28:20 EST > Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F4 > > My 52' F4 w/ 58,292 has a very creative radiator and > fan marriage. The fan > is braced to the radiator w/ angle iron (don't ask) > and is wired off the > coil. It turns on when the ignition key is turned. > I have the pulley on the > water pump/engine where it belongs. I am looking > for a fan and may have > found one (thru this terrific grapevine) to a > restore to sort of original > condition. Heres the rub, the original engine sat > higher and therefor so did > the fan. If I put the fan back on the pulley it > will be below dead center of > the radiator. Does this matter re; the heat > transfer requirement off the > rad? Whew, it took a while to get out. Thanks for > taking the time to read > this essay. > > Nick > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:23:04 -0800 > From: Ken Toop > Subject: power assist steering > > Who is selling the power assist steering setups for > '57-'60 F-100's? I > have a catalog from Bob's F-100 Parts, but it's kind > of old and hard to > figure out what some of the listings are for. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:39:32 -0800 > From: Ken Toop > Subject: Are we visible yet? > > I notice that some of the truck magazines are > starting to run a few > pictures of '57 to '60 F-100's (Well, at least '59 > and '60's.) The April > Custom Classic Trucks has a tiny photo of each of > the latter two. Clearly > not enough coverage of my favorite years to convince > me to keep my > subscription though. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:54:59 -0500 > From: Paul > Subject: 53 Panel Model > > For you panel maniacs who have seen those metal > pickup models and wish > there were a panel version: > > My son bought me a 1/18 (about 11 inches long) scale > panel model; it is > a white 53 decked out as a Pepsi Cola "1953 F-100 > Delivery Van". I am > not a big model fan, but it is neat. The > hood/doors/rear doors open; > the 2 front seat backs tilt forward; the steering > works, and the > driveshaft spins when you move the rear wheels. I > just opened it, so I > haven't discovered anything else. > > It is reasonably accurate in detail, with some cool > things like a spare > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 12:48:28 -0500 From: Abe Stauffer Subject: Ford trucks on TV There was a discussion a while back on old Fords on old TV shows. Here are two more that I have noticed lately. On M*A*S*H the old bus they haul the wounded in, the one that the gang was stranded in the boondocks with and they spent the night on the bus until a Korean got it started, is a '54 six cyl. Check out the grille!! This however is not historically correct since the fighting in Korea stopped on July 27, 1953. On an old rerun of Andy Griffith I saw on TV Land recently Gomer is running around in a '56 small window custom cab F-100 with the rear fender dimple for the spare (minus the spare.) Barney pulled him over for making a U-turn and the truck is on camera quite a bit! It looks good. Any others that you Ford lovers have seen? Surviving a boring winter looking forward to spring, Abe '54 F-100 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 10:56:23 -0700 From: "Kitchen, Ken" Subject: Re: Ford trucks on TV Yeah, the Mash one at least is close. At least the body style had be designed and released. On Hogan's Hero's the Germans are driving a 48 or 49 F1 on a number of episodes. ---------- From: Abe Stauffer [SMTP:astauffe oak.kcsd.k12.pa.us] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 10:48 AM To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [pre61-list] Ford trucks on TV There was a discussion a while back on old Fords on old TV shows. Here are two more that I have noticed lately. On M*A*S*H the old bus they haul the wounded in, the one that the gang was stranded in the boondocks with and they spent the night on the bus until a Korean got it started, is a '54 six cyl. Check out the grille!! This however is not historically correct since the fighting in Korea stopped on July 27, 1953. On an old rerun of Andy Griffith I saw on TV Land recently Gomer is running around in a '56 small window custom cab F-100 with the rear fender dimple for the spare (minus the spare.) Barney pulled him over for making a U-turn and the truck is on camera quite a bit! It looks good. Any others that you Ford lovers have seen? Surviving a boring winter looking forward to spring, Abe '54 F-100 ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ From: rturner SPP.ORG Subject: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:35:42 -0600 I have not been able to locate a replacement battery tray for a 1950 F1 Ford Pickup, 239 cu in motor. The brackets that mount to the frame and hold the battery tray are in good shape but the tray has been eaten up by battery acid. Anyone have a source an idea on replacing the tray? Randy 50 F1 Ford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:28:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Ellston Subject: Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in Mac's and Sacramento Vintage Ford have battery trays for 53 thru 56 trucks. Perhaps you could modify something from their catalogs. It's funny that no one has battery trays for the 48 thru 52 F-1's. --- rturner SPP.ORG wrote: > I have not been able to locate a replacement battery > tray for a 1950 F1 > Ford Pickup, 239 cu in motor. The brackets that > mount to the frame and > hold the battery tray are in good shape but the tray > has been eaten up > by battery acid. Anyone have a source an idea on > replacing the tray? > > Randy > 50 F1 Ford > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: > listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body > of the > message. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: jniolon uss.com Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 15:16:01 -0600 Subject: total performance found a reference in Hot Rod to a company called Total Performance that does some 460 cu in work... they listed a phone number, but there is no answer. There are several "Total Performance" listings on the net but they are for T-buckets and motorcycles.... Anyone got an phone number or contact for this company ??? Sleddog, you should know these guys by first name ??? TIA john ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 16:27:25 -0500 From: Gary Tkaczyk Subject: Re: 48 truck manual Roy, Joblot Automotive lists 2 parts manuals, one illustrations, one text, for 1948/56 Ford trucks. Their number is 717-468-8585. Good luck. Gary > Hello, > I recently purchased a 48 ford 1 ton. But it is in peices. Are there any > manuals that show where each peice is supposed to go. > Thanks, > Roy > > ========================================================== > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:34:51 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Subject: Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in We used a bat tray from a 80's GM because you don't need to have the hold downs over the battery. The GM one just has a little clamp that goes in a notch on the battery. Just an idea. Scott 52 F1 --- Ed Ellston > Mac's and Sacramento Vintage Ford have battery trays > for 53 thru 56 trucks. Perhaps you could modify > something from their catalogs. It's funny that no one > has battery trays for the 48 thru 52 F-1's. > > --- rturner SPP.ORG wrote: > > I have not been able to locate a replacement battery > > tray for a 1950 F1 > > Ford Pickup, 239 cu in motor. The brackets that > > mount to the frame and > > hold the battery tray are in good shape but the tray > > has been eaten up > > by battery acid. Anyone have a source an idea on > > replacing the tray? > > > > Randy > > 50 F1 Ford __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: ppowers01 att.net Subject: webb site !!! Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 23:47:44 +0000 There was someone who listed their own webb site for 1950 model F-1's about 2-3 weeks ago did anyone happen to save that address. I accidently deleted mine but the site was very interesting with the history and all the pictures. I would also like to get the phone # to EZ wiring that someone says is real good and cheap. Thanks Pete Powers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 20:00:39 +0000 From: Fred Hooper Subject: Re: Battery Tray for 50 F1 239 cu in I think Todd Murthum at northernclassictrucks.com has them, he stamps a lot of parts for late 30's up to '70s fords Fred hotrod'56 rturner SPP.ORG wrote: > I have not been able to locate a replacement battery tray for a 1950 F1 > Ford Pickup, 239 cu in motor. The brackets that mount to the frame and > hold the battery tray are in good shape but the tray has been eaten up > by battery acid. Anyone have a source an idea on replacing the tray? > > Randy > 50 F1 Ford > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body of the > message. ------------------------------ From: FiftySevenF100 aol.com Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 22:30:43 EST Subject: 57 - 60's Ken, I know what you're talking about. I looked at my 57 F100 (along with a pretty but expensive and shoddy 56, a 51 cheby flatbed, and a 72 cheby); then bought a Classic Truck magazine. The CT had an article and pictorial on a beautiful 60 F100, so I bought the 57. That was the last time I have seen an article on a 57 - 60 model. Only a couple of pics at shows. Tim in Seattle, I would like to get the magazine you were talking about. If you get exactly which edition it was, let me know. I'll try to get a back issue! Glenn in TN ------------------------------ From: PWPTRUCK1 aol.com Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 00:17:07 EST Subject: Re: Elbow for oil line Randy, I found the oil line elbow at my local hardware store in the plumbing department. I looked in the bin that has brass fittings and I think it may be called a street elbow? Paul '52 F-3 ------------------------------ From: "Tim Mortimore" Subject: street truck request from glenn in TN.... 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