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pre61-list Digest Wed, 09 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 002

In This Issue:
Re: Gas Tanks
Pigeon Forge
Re: Gas Tanks
Door Glass
Re: Door Glass
Hey, Michelle!
Horn Wiring
Distributor removal
'56 Truck Parts
239 Flat Head V8 Pix
Re: Horn Wiring
Re: Horn Wiring
Re: '56 Truck Parts
Re: Thermostats
Re: Thermostats


From: Mike Morton>
Subject: Re: Gas Tanks
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:57:36 -0600

What did you do for the tank filler tube and the cap?
Mike Morton
55 F100/460

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From: MichellHC [mailto:MichellHC]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 3:43 PM
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Subject: [pre61-list] Gas Tanks

I know of no gas tanks that will fit the rear of a 53 through 56 with no
frame modification at all. However I can tell you that the tank from an 85
Isuzu Trooper is a virtual bolt in if you move the rear crossmember rearward

about three to five inches. I also notched the left frame rail on the top
flange so the neck would have plenty of clearance. The beauty part of the
tank is that there are no straps to contend with and the tank bolts directly

to the lower frame flange. I installed one in my 56 my self with no outside
help. If I can do it, anybody can.
Chelle's 56 Hauler

For you guys wondering, I plan on driving my 56 to Pigeon Forge this year.
Hopefully it will be safer.
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 17:09:18 -0500
From: Paul>
Subject: Pigeon Forge

Looking forward to meeting you and your truck at PF.
Only a little over 3 months to go!

Watching some snow actually melt for a change today,



From: NACatin
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:48:15 EST
Subject: Re: Gas Tanks

Where is the best place to look for a drivers side glass for a 52 Ford F4?
Does not have to be original.



From: Flathead52
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:58:59 EST
Subject: Door Glass

I found a local glass place that would cut anything I needed. They wanted
something to use as a pattern. I have both sides out right now if you need me
to make a paper pattern I can.

Tom Grover
my home page


From: NACatin
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 20:14:14 EST
Subject: Re: Door Glass

Tom that's real nice of you. Please send pattern to;
Nick Catinella
90 Northford Rd
Branford CT 06405

How much do I owe you?



Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 22:17:11 -0500
From: The Neighbors>
Subject: Hey, Michelle!

I'm looking forward to meeting you this year! After last year if you
showed up in a Crosley pickup I'd be tickled to death for you!
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."



From: "Randy Selby">
Subject: Horn Wiring
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 21:02:15 -0600

Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the horn on a '50 F-1? Trying to get
everything traced out but missing a part or two. Where does the relay
mount? Where does the horn mount? Basket case truck is incomplete. Thanks..
Randy Selby


From: My59f100
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:14:39 EST
Subject: Distributor removal

Hi I need to remove the distributor out of my 59 with a 292. The last time I
took her out it was three days on and off getting the oil pump shaft lined up
right so I could get it seated down all the way. Any suggestions before I
start on how to get that baby in easier this time?


From: "Whiteman, Bob">
Subject: '56 Truck Parts
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:23:38 -0600

There's a guy here in town (Wichita, KS) that has 2 '56 F100's for parts.
The sheet metal isn't in too good of shape anymore (other than the doors are
in avg condition). But they do have the chassis components and a number of
the cab components (I even found a master cylinder access plate). If anyone
is interested in any parts, I can see if the guy will throw them in with the
pieces I'm already getting. Please E-mail me off list.


From: rturner SPP.ORG
Subject: 239 Flat Head V8 Pix
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 07:42:48 -0600

Looking for historically accurate engine pictures.

I am restoring my 50 Flatty, Does any one have detailed pictures of the
flathead that is historically correct.

Also, was the drive shaft originally painted or just bare metal from the

Randy Turner
50 F1 1/2 Ton Pickup
Frame up restoration


Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 08:58:15 EST
Subject: Thermostats

Put new thermostats in my '52 F1 but have a friend who says he thinks you
shouldn't put thermostats in flatheads unless you need fast heatup for cab
heater. I'd heard that it was best to run engine at higher temp - that both
the lube and cooling systems did better hotter. What's the consensus out


Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:23:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Ed Ellston>
Subject: Re: Horn Wiring

The horn wiring seems to be pretty simple. One wire
from the horn button out to the horn or horns under
the hood. The horn or horns are mounted on the hood
brace. The relay is mounted nearby. There should be
mounting holes for the relay and the horn on the

Found this information in the Ford F-Series truck shop

Ed and the effie

--- Randy Selby> wrote:
> Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the horn on a
> '50 F-1? Trying to get
> everything traced out but missing a part or two.
> Where does the relay
> mount? Where does the horn mount? Basket case truck
> is incomplete. Thanks..
> Randy Selby
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From: NACatin
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:54:59 EST
Subject: Re: Horn Wiring

Relay mounts on fire wall of engine compartment drivers side. horn goes
between eng compart & outer front part of truck right of opening device



From: NACatin
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:59:58 EST
Subject: Re: '56 Truck Parts

I'm looking for drivers side glass w/ door parts and steering wheel.



From: Flathead52
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:00:55 EST
Subject: Re: Thermostats

This is a topic that can get a lot of input. Heres what I know from running
my flathead for the past five years. I run the 165 degree thermostats and
have NEVER over heated. I also know that my flathead likes a little heat. It
run just a little rough under 100. Just my two cent worth.



Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:24:30 -0500
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira">
Subject: Re: Thermostats

Engines are not so efficient when they're not warmed up. Whilede flatheads
are legendary for overheating problems, these are usually caused by loose
head gaskets or clogged up water passages. If you're just about to rebuild
your flathead, spend as much time as you can cleaning casting sand out of
the water passages. If you're just looking for a quick fix, you can take
the heads and lower radiator hoses off and see how much crud you can clean
out with a garden hose (it worked for me).

Lots of people say don't run thermostats in a flathead, and then turn
around and say that you should run with 'flow restrictors' (washers in the
upper radiator hoses). I'm not sure about that and there are all sorts of
theories on just how the flow restrictors are supposed to work -- the usual
explanation about "the water moves too fast too cool off in the radiator"
sounds good but doesn't hold water with thermodynamic theory. I believe it
may increase pressure and reduce cavitation. The other possibility is that
at high speed there is non-laminar flow in the radiator and the coolant
doesn't flow through all the passages.

Bottom line: I run thermostats in my flathead (37 block with 36 heads).
After I fixed the loose head gaskets and rinsed the crud out, it stays
below 180 on my temperature gauge, although I think the gauge reads low. In
any case, it stopped overheating.

Tom Teixeira '35 pickup


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