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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list pre61-list); Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:26:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #19 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Wed, 01 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 019 In This Issue: Re: radiator for 1958 F100 Re: radiator for 1958 F100 Re: radiator for 1958 F4 power assist steering Are we visible yet? 53 Panel Model Re: Are we visible yet? '58 Radiator Re: The Forge!! 49 Tranny Re: Hot rodding a '51 Re: 58 radiator (no subject) ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! vacumm Re: Bed Floor Removal pfgroup-list Re: fan blade Re: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! Re: vacumm Re: Hot rodding a '51 58 radiator ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:50:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Ellston Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F100 Laura: Have you checked with a local radiator repair shop. I've had radiators rebuild at a local radiator shop at a reasonable price. If you plan to drive the truck every day, I would suggest you have it rebuilt. Ed and the effie. --- Laura Nelson > Dear Truckers, > > I'm pretty sure I need a new radiator for my 1958 > F100 with 292 > engine. It's been losing alot of coolant lately > (more than a gallon a day) > and steam was almost pouring out the front last > night even after I'd > turned off the engine. I've been looking and can't > find one here in town > where I live, Houston. Found one at Sacramento > Ford, but it's pretty > expensive. I have a shop manual, but no clue if > there are other vehicle's > radiators that could be an adequate substitute. Any > ideas? Thanks so much. > > Laura Nelson > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: > listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body > of the > message. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: NACatin aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:17:34 EST Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F100 Write to Jay in CT he has a radiator that MIGHT fit your application. He is very reasonable and a nice guy as well. Please tell him I sent you, I've bought a fair amount of great parts from him. He is jgienty ntplx.net. If he cant help try Barry CLUSSY 38. He is equally reasonable and available to help. Good luck, Nick ------------------------------ From: NACatin aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:28:20 EST Subject: Re: radiator for 1958 F4 My 52' F4 w/ 58,292 has a very creative radiator and fan marriage. The fan is braced to the radiator w/ angle iron (don't ask) and is wired off the coil. It turns on when the ignition key is turned. I have the pulley on the water pump/engine where it belongs. I am looking for a fan and may have found one (thru this terrific grapevine) to a restore to sort of original condition. Heres the rub, the original engine sat higher and therefor so did the fan. If I put the fan back on the pulley it will be below dead center of the radiator. Does this matter re; the heat transfer requirement off the rad? Whew, it took a while to get out. Thanks for taking the time to read this essay. Nick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:23:04 -0800 From: Ken Toop Subject: power assist steering Who is selling the power assist steering setups for '57-'60 F-100's? I have a catalog from Bob's F-100 Parts, but it's kind of old and hard to figure out what some of the listings are for. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:39:32 -0800 From: Ken Toop Subject: Are we visible yet? I notice that some of the truck magazines are starting to run a few pictures of '57 to '60 F-100's (Well, at least '59 and '60's.) The April Custom Classic Trucks has a tiny photo of each of the latter two. Clearly not enough coverage of my favorite years to convince me to keep my subscription though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:54:59 -0500 From: Paul Subject: 53 Panel Model For you panel maniacs who have seen those metal pickup models and wish there were a panel version: My son bought me a 1/18 (about 11 inches long) scale panel model; it is a white 53 decked out as a Pepsi Cola "1953 F-100 Delivery Van". I am not a big model fan, but it is neat. The hood/doors/rear doors open; the 2 front seat backs tilt forward; the steering works, and the driveshaft spins when you move the rear wheels. I just opened it, so I haven't discovered anything else. It is reasonably accurate in detail, with some cool things like a spare tire mounted underneath, but...they screwed up and left the gas tank outside the frame, something only a panel man would notice. Being a gift, he wouldn't tell me what it cost, but I believe it was over 50. The pickup truck versions cost 20-30 by comparison. Since panel-anything is fairly rare, I figured it would merit a mention here. Regards, Paul Gayda 54 panel named "panemal" thats all...sold the 53 and 55 pickups ------------------------------ From: "Tim Mortimore" Subject: Re: Are we visible yet? Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:02:22 -0000 there was a cover truck and feature article on a beautiful 57 in the january or february issue of Street Truck. when i went back to the store to buy it, it was gone...................dang. somebody built a beauty. tim in seattle 58 panel that will never be anywhere near as nice as that one was...but i probably wouldn't drive that one around like i'll drive my panel. ;-D ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Toop To: Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 1:39 AM Subject: [pre61-list] Are we visible yet? > I notice that some of the truck magazines are starting to run a few > pictures of '57 to '60 F-100's (Well, at least '59 and '60's.) The April > Custom Classic Trucks has a tiny photo of each of the latter two. Clearly > not enough coverage of my favorite years to convince me to keep my > subscription though. > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body of the > message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:57:09 -0600 Subject: '58 Radiator From: Brett L Habben Laura, The Austin branch of this company has been a Godsend for my collection of misfits. If the staff at their Houston office is anything like the one here they will come up with an affordable solution. Four Seasons Radiator 6343 Beverlyhill St Houston, TX 713-266-2656 Brett PS. Let us know how this turns out. >Dear Truckers, >I'm pretty sure I need a new radiator for my 1958 F100 with 292 >engine. >Laura Nelson ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:43:47 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: The Forge!! At 07:03 AM 3/1/00 -0800, you wrote: >Ken: > >that URL is incorrect since when I sent mail there it >came back to me. Sorry, my mistake. Should be: Send an email to listar ford-trucks.com with subscribe pfgroup-list in the subject. NOT list ford-trucks.com Ken ------------------------------ From: "Debi & Rick Maxted" Subject: 49 Tranny Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:00:21 PST Hello, I am building a stock 49 F1 239 3 speed. I am in need of: U joint Knuckle Main Shaft rear oil baffle Cluster gear outer rear thrust plate Would appreciate any help locating these. Thanks, Rick ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Mike Bishop" Subject: Re: Hot rodding a '51 Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:10:42 -0800 Charles; Speaking as a dad (with grown offspring), and a life-long gearhead who loves his Fords and Chevys (and BMWs) equally, I'd suggest that you keep doing what you have been doing which, judging by your posts, is to continue to treat your youngster with respect. While his opinion about the best engine for his F-1 may not quite fit with yours, be proud that he does have an opinion--and some ideas about how he wants his truck to be. There are far worse choices in life than putting a Chevy V8 in your Ford truck. And, if that is the path you and your son choose, it needn't cost the farm. Inexpensive engine mount kits are available from sources like Speedway Motors (1-402-474-4411). Speedway also sells engine-to-transmission adapters that will allow you to mate the Chevy smallblock to the Ford trans--no need to relocate the transmission crossmember or the master cylinder. In fact, with this scheme the Ford's pedals and linkage don't even have to be altered. An external hop-up of the good-running 8BA flathead that's in the truck, in which you don't disassemble the shortblock, will result in an increase of no more than perhaps 20-25 hp. And, it will carve $500-$1000 out of your budget, depending on the approach. Just some thoughts I wanted to share with you. I love to see dads working with their kids on efforts like this. This is some of the most important mentoring that we get to do, when they are on the threshold of adulthood. Good luck. Mike Bishop ----- Original Message ----- From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:09 PM Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #18 I haven't given up on him completely yet. He's the > youngest of three and I've found patience usually wins out. He's helped me > with my 48 Mer pu and my 52 Merc pu so he has some idea of the expense and > I've told him plainly we are not mortgaging the farm for his truck. He > subscribes to Hot Rod magazine but I'll check out the others you mentioned. > > Thanks again, > Charles > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ From: Larrykvet aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:24:23 EST Subject: Re: 58 radiator I just had the same problem with my 53- I had the original re cored and rebuilt for 275$ at the local radiator shop and it looks like new- this is not much but some cheaper than a new one and it will look better than one of those aluminum jobs-larry ------------------------------ From: NACatin aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 23:46:47 EST Subject: (no subject) I am looking for an ignition and door cylinder and key set. Is this something search here for or am I better off Dennis Carpenter or MACS, etc.? Thanks for the help. Nick ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 00:52:14 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce the addition of an all new free feature for our users! FREE WEB BASED EMAIL ---- yourname ford-trucks.net We've registered the ford-trucks.net domain for email address use. An automated sign up page will be added this weekend and the mail service will be activated then. This is a full blown, ***fast*** web based email package, that includes pretty much everything Hotmail, Yahoo mail, etc have and more. It cost us plenty, but I think everyone will enjoy using it and we've always had the policy of offering more to our users as we can afford it. Plus an added benefit, a vanity address perfect for all us Ford truck lovers. AFTE club members will receive as part of their membership an enhanced version of the web mail, which has increased mail quotas and spell checking, plus outgoing email from AFTE members will have their member number appended to list postings! The public sign-up will be this weekend, but now is your chance to grab a desired address, on a first come first serve basis. If you would like to have an address, please send the following to kpayne ford-trucks.com: Name: Current email address: Desired email address ( ford-trucks.net): Desired password: Year and model of Ford trucks you own (we're going to use part of the mail database for a registry!). You'll receive complete usage instructions this weekend. DO NOT SEND THE ABOVE INFORMATION TO THIS LIST!!!! Later, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: "shawn" Subject: vacumm Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:55:56 -0800 I just bought a 54 F100 recently, ready to run, and sold my other 54 body frame etc. Unfortunately i have discovered the one i just purchased has vacumm wipers :( that were unplugged. Were is the best place to install the vacumm hose on the engine. I am running a 372 with a 750 Holley, and manifold. Also is there a reasonably inexpensive way to convert this over to 12 volt electric wipers. the truck is rewired to 12 volts now. btw fella's, i bought this truck for a song. its one of those deals were mom paid all the bills for the son to get it done and he ran into trouble and she wanted whatever money she could get out of it asap, Black 1954 F100 (super straight) new Ta's and mags, new 327, and new turbo 400 with a shift kit, all new brakes, new chromed grill and bumbers, new running boards, hooker headers, isky cam, its quite lumpy :) new B&M Star Shifter. all it needs is a lowering job, and new wood in the box, and also a front windsheild as it has a rock chip on the drivers side (of coarse it has to be that side) I offered 3400.00 cash on the table right now, and she took it. so i ended up selling my project f100 which needed everything, the difference in cost out of my pocket was 400.00 after buying and selling. this is my first f100 that i can actually DRIVE. i hope to get another as well that is restored to original as my wife likes the old farm truck look better than a rod. Cheers! any help on the wipers would be gratefull. Thankyou. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 08:14:00 -0500 From: Abe Stauffer Subject: Re: Bed Floor Removal Peter: I had a local welder with a "plasma" cutter carefully remove the steel plate over a bed I had. It did a pretty good job, however the flanges of the bed side were rusted in some spots. If your bed sides are good but the flanges are rusted you should buy what are called bedside angle covers. They look like the bed strips but are at an angle. I used them on my bed and they look sharp. I got mine from Mar-K from Oklahoma City and are a lot cheaper than buying new bed sides!!! I have seen them advertised in other catalogs, also. Is your '56 long box an F-100 or an F-250? If it is an F-250 the bed has fender wells inside the bed and the angle strips won't work. Good luck! Abe '54 F-100 From: pschumacher mindspring.com Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:28:47 -0500 Subject: Bed Floor Removal I have a '56 longbox that has a steel plate welded in over the original wood floor. I want it out and I'm not sure how to do this. How far out from the bed sides should the cut be? I will hire someone to do this. I just dont want to make a costly error. Thanks for any help. Peter '56 ------------------------------ From: rturner SPP.ORG Subject: pfgroup-list Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 07:30:26 -0600 ------------------------------ From: STUDJAMES aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:23:14 EST Subject: Re: fan blade Nick, I have the fan blade from my 292 if you are interested. I replaced mine with an abs plastic, 22 inch, 6 blade because I thought the engine was overheating. Later found it was just the gauge reading hot. drop me a line if interested Studjames aol.com. Good luck, Jim << From: NACatin aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 09:23:29 EST Subject: Re: 292-272 Fan I need a fan for a 292 or a 272. Any help is greatly appreciated. Nick >> ------------------------------ From: "Steve Schnitz" Subject: Re: ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:47:16 -0500 cant send message to address youy provided. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Payne To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>; 80-96-list ford-trucks.com <80-96-list ford-trucks.com>; 97up-list ford-trucks.com <97up-list ford-trucks.com>; small-list ford-trucks.com perf-list ford-trucks.com pre48-list ford-trucks.com offroad-list ford-trucks.com Date: Thursday, March 02, 2000 12:52 AM Subject: [pre61-list] ADMIN: New free service from FTE, web based email!!! >Ford Truck Enthusiasts is pleased to announce the addition >of an all new free feature for our users! > >FREE WEB BASED EMAIL ---- yourname ford-trucks.net > >We've registered the ford-trucks.net domain for email >address use. > >An automated sign up page will be added this weekend and >the mail service will be activated then. This is a full >blown, ***fast*** web based email package, that includes >pretty much everything Hotmail, Yahoo mail, etc have and >more. It cost us plenty, but I think everyone will enjoy >using it and we've always had the policy of offering more >to our users as we can afford it. Plus an added benefit, >a vanity address perfect for all us Ford truck lovers. > >AFTE club members will receive as part of their membership >an enhanced version of the web mail, which has increased >mail quotas and spell checking, plus outgoing email from >AFTE members will have their member number appended to >list postings! > >The public sign-up will be this weekend, but now is your >chance to grab a desired address, on a first come first >serve basis. > >If you would like to have an address, please send the >following to kpayne ford-trucks.com: > >Name: >Current email address: >Desired email address ( ford-trucks.net): >Desired password: >Year and model of Ford trucks you own (we're going to >use part of the mail database for a registry!). > >You'll receive complete usage instructions this weekend. >DO NOT SEND THE ABOVE INFORMATION TO THIS LIST!!!! > >Later, >Ken Payne >Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the body of the >message. > > ------------------------------ From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" Subject: Re: vacumm Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 08:40:51 -0800 Sacramento Vintage Ford has a 12 volt motor kit. Not cheap, but you can get all the parts you need to convert to electric with a new motor and switch. Dennis 55F100 > ---------- > From: shawn[SMTP:shawnwo home.com] > Reply To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2000 2:55 AM > To: pre61-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [pre61-list] vacumm > > > I just bought a 54 F100 recently, ready to run, and sold my other 54 body > frame etc. Unfortunately > i have discovered the one i just purchased has vacumm wipers :( that were > unplugged. Were is the best place to install the vacumm hose on the > engine. I am running a 372 with a 750 Holley, and manifold. > > Also is there a reasonably inexpensive way to convert this over to 12 volt > electric wipers. the truck is rewired to 12 volts now. > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 12:37:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Ellston Subject: Re: Hot rodding a '51 I would have loved to have a Dad help me through those difficult teen age years and also to show me how to do things. Instead I had a mean step-father who always put us down. So enjoy your time with your son. I envy you. Ed and the effie --- Mike Bishop > Charles; > > Speaking as a dad (with grown offspring), and a > life-long gearhead who loves > his Fords and Chevys (and BMWs) equally, I'd suggest > that you keep doing > what you have been doing which, judging by your > posts, is to continue to > treat your youngster with respect. While his opinion > about the best engine > for his F-1 may not quite fit with yours, be proud > that he does have an > opinion--and some ideas about how he wants his truck > to be. There are far > worse choices in life than putting a Chevy V8 in > your Ford truck. > > And, if that is the path you and your son choose, it > needn't cost the farm. > Inexpensive engine mount kits are available from > sources like Speedway > Motors (1-402-474-4411). Speedway also sells > engine-to-transmission adapters > that will allow you to mate the Chevy smallblock to > the Ford trans--no need > to relocate the transmission crossmember or the > master cylinder. In fact, > with this scheme the Ford's pedals and linkage don't > even have to be > altered. > > An external hop-up of the good-running 8BA flathead > that's in the truck, in > which you don't disassemble the shortblock, will > result in an increase of no > more than perhaps 20-25 hp. And, it will carve > $500-$1000 out of your > budget, depending on the approach. > > Just some thoughts I wanted to share with you. I > love to see dads working > with their kids on efforts like this. This is some > of the most important > mentoring that we get to do, when they are on the > threshold of adulthood. > > Good luck. > > Mike Bishop > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server > > To: pre61-list digest users > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 3:09 PM > Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #18 > > > I haven't given up on him completely yet. He's the > > youngest of three and I've found patience usually > wins out. He's helped > me > > with my 48 Mer pu and my 52 Merc pu so he has some > idea of the expense and > > I've told him plainly we are not mortgaging the > farm for his truck. He > > subscribes to Hot Rod magazine but I'll check out > the others you > mentioned. > > > > Thanks again, > > Charles > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: > listar ....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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