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Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list pre61-list); Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 22:46:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: pre61-list digest users Reply-to: pre61-list Subject: pre61-list Digest V2000 #129 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ pre61-list Digest Tue, 18 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 129 In This Issue: Re: Fordson Pickup Heat Resistant Paint Re: Straight axle Re: straight axle Re: straight axle Re: Heat Resistant Paint Re: Heat Resistant Paint ADMIN: New specifications section ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lwblumjr Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 22:37:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Fordson Pickup > > > Hello everyone: > My name is Rafael and I writing from Cali Colombia. My problem is > that I > have 2 Fordson pickups for restoration but no one in this country > knows any thing about these trucks. > I'm searching since one year ago by Internet for at least one > picture > but by now I'm loosing the impulse. The only thing that I founded is > at > the Ford history where they said that the Fordson pickup truck was built > around 1932 and 1934. > These trucks don't have any plate or tag, only one has a > registration > and says Fordson 1951, I don't know if this information is real. > All bearings, the brake and clutch pedals, the brake drums, the > chassis > and many other parts have engraved the Ford logo and some of them > made > in England. > I hope you guys understand my poor English and some one can find some > thing > that will help me to rebuild these beauties. > You guys can write to me at aserquim > Thanks and God Bless you all.Rafael.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael, My dad has a book that is titled FORD Trucks and Transports since 1945. It has some information and pictures of Fordson vans and a pickup conversion from the van that was produced in England in the 1950's. If you are interested, I could maybe scan you a few pages and E-mail them to you. The book is of course in English. Yo habla Espanol muy un poco. (I think I said that correctly.) Any way, let me know if you are interested. I will have to go to my Uncle's house to scan the pages. Good luck with your trucks. Larry W. Blum, Jr. FCA#09509 Pensacola, Fl. "mailto:lwblumjr "http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.students.uwf.edu/lwb1/homepage.html" ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Douglas R." Subject: Heat Resistant Paint Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:32:57 EDT Anybody know of a good high temp paint in RED? I'm looking to paint the intake of my y-block again and can't find anything in red that will hold up to the center exhaust ports on the y-block intake. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: BOBWOOD536 Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 03:02:49 EDT Subject: Re: Straight axle Chris, You better figure on replacing the tie-rod ends and the drag link, along with the king pins. Also the steering box is probable worn too. My 60 F100 was, I replaced king pins, tie rods and drag link, and got rid of about half the slop. Rebuilding the box is expensive, I've seen sector shafts and worm gears for sell but they cost about $600 for the set. I've seen rebuilt boxes for about $750. I'm thinking of going with a Toyota power steering box. Hope this helps. Also I bought the drag link from Schucks and the king pins and tie rod ends from Carolina Classics. Bob Wood 60 F100 302/C6 It'll run some day! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:35:21 -0400 From: David Russow Subject: Re: straight axle Chris & Jennifer The following opinions were on another BB, yours to evaluate: Contrary to popular belief, the solid axle front end on these trucks rides pretty nice. Given it's rebuilt properly. There are kits out there that are very inexpensive that allow you to install late model power steering, and mid 70s Camaro disk brakes on these axles. All you really have to do is replace the bushings, kingpins, and given the age of the truck I'd replace the front springs as well. JC Whitney has replacement springs for about $75 each so they are not as expensive as some of the "truck" specialty houses would have you believe. If you want to put it in the weeds you can opt for one of the mono leaf kits that will drop the front about 3 in. However, with the Camaro disk brakes and 14 in. wheels with radials you'll drop the front almost that much anyway. On the other hand there is always the Mustang II kit. They are easy to install, use stock Mustang components and are very dependable. The cost of the Mustang II with the big chevy disk brakes will be a bit more than converting your solid axle like described above but its the only way to go if you simply have to have an IFS in the truck. In this case I would recommend Heidts only because I know their geometry is correct. If you want adjustability with a Heidts unit you can always go with the coil over option. It adds a little over $300 to the price however. The Fat Mans adjustable unit has a good reputation but like someone else said Id weld it in just to be on the safe side. It too can be equipped with the big GM brakes > No way would I recommend putting money into the stock front end unless your limiting your trips to a few miles from the house (at least with stock springs). I think if your going to keep the truck you'll eventually end up with some form of IFS, so I would say don't waste your money on the solid axle. Since you don't see it like an open wheeled car of the 30s what good is it. I think you can get a solid axle to ride and handle good on an open wheeled car, but they dont weigh near as much as the truck and their center of gravity is going to be much lower. I have to agree. I had a 52 ford with a straight axle. Rebuilt the springs, new king pins, new tie rods, power steering conversion, it was OK but it still would'nt handle like a modern truck, and it had several limitations, for instance, you can't run a very wide tire on the front, if you do, it starts to shimmy at about 60 mph, also on a rough road, the ride is terrible, a function of the unsprung weight. Like I said different opinions - hope this helps Dave 54FE > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:43:44 -0400 From: F Hooper Subject: Re: straight axle Hi Chris, Chris/Jennifer Chambers wrote: Is anyone else running a truck with the old straight axle, and if so are they really this bad or is my worn out? Yours is just worn out. I have a '56, with a V/8 automatic set up, which shall remain nameless. I didn't want to put $2,500 out for an IFS system (that was more than I paid for the truck ) So, I added the Toyota power steering box, which involved a adapter, the box, a new pitman arm, a borgonson (sp) joint, a power steering pump, and new hoses with the right fittings on each end. The total cost was around $700. The truck now steers as easily as any power steering set up. I also added the NoLimit Engineering front disc brake kit, which uses the large GM calipers with a late model Ford truck rotors. This was around $500. So now it stops darn good. On smooth road it handles great no wobble vibration or stray. On rough road, it rides like and old truck. It is an old truck and I wouldn't go 40 or 50 down a gravel road with it even if I could. I put too much work into it for that. I still have done nothing with the springs. So, as you can see if your are going to do a total rebuild of the axle and springs, then ad power steering and brakes, you would be right around the cost of and IFS and still not have the ride quality. If and when I do switch mine, I'm still not decided what it will be when it grows up, I'm looking at the Industrial Chassis IFS because it uses '90s technology in the form of Dodge Dakota pickup components. In other words a system that was designed and built for a truck not a 2000 pound car. Good luck Fred Hotrod'56 ------------------------------ From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" Subject: Re: Heat Resistant Paint Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:11:27 -0700 Doug, Try POR 15. I used it on both my engine and exhaust. Great stuff. One of the web sites is :http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.por15.com/hightempcoatings.html Dennis 55F100 > ---------- > From: Douglas R.[SMTP:my59f100 > Reply To: pre61-list > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:32 PM > To: pre61-list > Subject: [pre61-list] Heat Resistant Paint > > > Anybody know of a good high temp paint in RED? I'm looking to paint the > intake of my y-block again and can't find anything in red that will hold > up > to the center exhaust ports on the y-block intake. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------ From: "Tim Mortimore" Subject: Re: Heat Resistant Paint Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:49:27 -0700 bill Hirsch engine paints are rated to 600f. I don't know if that is enough for your application, but they are definitely a quality product. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hirschauto.com/prod01.htm Tim mortimore 58 panel ----- Original Message ----- From: Douglas R. To: Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 10:32 PM Subject: [pre61-list] Heat Resistant Paint > > Anybody know of a good high temp paint in RED? I'm looking to paint the > intake of my y-block again and can't find anything in red that will hold up > to the center exhaust ports on the y-block intake. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe: > http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 23:42:28 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: New specifications section There's a new specifications section of the web site which features releases from Ford Motor Company. These releases include overviews, specs, features and options. Models will be added as Ford makes additional releases. More than a dozen 2000-2001 models are currently featured. See the section at: http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/index.html Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ End of pre61-list Digest V2000 #129 *********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. Cross references thousands of Ford parts. http://www.motorhaven.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1948-1960 Truck List Send posts to pre61-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe pre61-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... 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