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Re: Only Fordson pickup fan in the world
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Re: Electrical Problems
ADMIN: 2001 Ford Lightning
From: HDMel95 aol.com
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 00:40:48 EDT
Subject: Web site search
Is there a web site with Ford Crate Performance motors (Engines) I have seen
the Ford catelog with a mess of crate motors, I think it was Performance
Ford. Thanks for the help.
70 El Camino
Try the Craftsman Catalog. The Sears retail stores stock a limited amount of
automotive tools. The catalog has many more. Pick one up at your local
sears hardware store.
> At 10:45 AM 7/17/2000 -0500, Doug wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >Need to find a source for tools that are identified in the shop manuals.
> >Specifically I am rebuilding the flat 6 on my '51 and to remove the
> >valve springs it requires a specific tool that I have not found at local
> >auto parts stores...Searched the net for the tool mfg. listed but found
> >nothing.. any help would be appreciated.
> You can give Eastwood Company a try, www.eastwoodcompany.com or
> (800) 345-1178.
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Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:56:43 +1000
From: brian falkner ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Only Fordson pickup fan in the world
My name is Rafael and I writing from Cali Colombia. My problem is that I
have 2 Fordson pick-ups for restauration but no one in this country
knows any thing about this trucks.
I'm searching since one year ago by internet for at least one picture
but by now I`m loosing the impulse. The only thing that I founded is at
the Ford history were they said that Fordson pick-up truck was built
arround 1932 and 1934.
This trucks doesn`t have any plate or tag, only one have registration
and say Fordson 1951, I don`t know if this information is real.
All bearigs, the brake and clutch pedals, the brake drums, the chasis
and many other parts has engraved the Ford logo and some of theme made
I hope you guys understand my poor english and some one find some thing
that help me to rebuilt this beautys.
You guys can write to me at aserquimtelesat.com.co
Thanks and God Bless you all.Rafael.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Aloha! Rafael; YES your problem IS you have TWO Fordson pickups!.
And nobody WANTS to know anything about them!.
We had plenty [unfortunately] of these English Forskin
oops!.... Fordson pickups here in Kiwiland [New Zealand], just accross the
creek from you. They were assembled here from 1949-55 I think. Model
designation is E83W 10HP. They used the Ford Prefect engine & had a typical
Ford transverse [buggy] suspension. The diff & driveline was offset to the
left so the LH axle was somewhat shorter than the RH. They did look kinda
cute but thats the only nice thing I can force myself to admit!.
You see I had to work on them occasionally!. And whats worse I even had to
drive them afterwards!. If you were physically deformed in the right places
you might fit the driving position just fine..if you didnt..you could
easily end up deformed anyway by way of a vicious blow to the left kneecap
from the [IRA designed] gear lever when you least expected it....come to
think of it even WHEN you expected it!.
These human hobblers jumped out of 2nd gear faster than the speed of light
and this speed increased if you happened to be going up a steep hill, well
they had SO much power of course that anything other than dead flat WAS a
The whack on the cap rendered your clutch disengaging ability to zero so
you cruised to a halt if the brakes were working as normal & cried for
awhile. Sooo, many drivers just used first gear up a hill, that way they
could keep both hands on the wheel, prevent a sprained wrist & keep the
right hand free for giving the fingers to all the backed up traffic behind.
These things are RESPONSIBLE for ALL the ROAD RAGE today!!.
Now for those that could afford it a hi-tec quick action restraining lever
was attached to the dashboard which worked most of the time if you
remembered to use it, but you could NEVER be sure if it was going to slip
or break, [Titanium wasn't around those days].
Couple all this with a steering box that had 5" free play, brakes that were
just ok if the truck was empty & a driving position that would suit an
Amazonian Pygmy....hmmmm...say!...which tribe paid you to take them away?.
Oh this IS good therapy!. I've been trying to get this off my chest for
nearly 40 years!, I think I'm about done thank you Rafael.
Dont let me put you off, these vehicles did worthy work durring the 2nd
world war & were among the few light trucks available after it in the
British Commonwealth. Like all Fords they never new when to die!. I have
seen some restored Fordsons here recently so you are Not the only fan in
After all this I can help with specifications, photo's when I get my
scanner working and hopefully, parts sources & maybe a manual & book sources!.
Contact me at falkenihug.co.nz
> If you go to an insurance agent, you can get a title
> using a "title bond."
After all the horror stories I've heard from people here in Minnesota
who've tried to deal with un-titled vehicles, Ken's post of yesterday
seemed far too good to be true; but I checked anyway. My insurance guy
-- who's also been a good friend since high school (class of '66) --
said that Ken's post is absolutley correct. My friend said that he had
titled several vehicles for people in this way. His concluding remark
was something like: "Getting a title isn't nearly as hard as you think
Rob, '59 F-100, "Babe, the Blue Ox"
(Plus several other interesting vehicles, some of them un-titled)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:27:39 -0600
Subject: A question for Michelle
I did get the Trooper tank and it is a perfect fit between the frame rails.
Thanks to everyone who provided me information on this tank. It looks like a
stock installation. I modified the filler neck so that it is further back
more on the corner of the tank, that way I don't think I'll have to modify
the frame rail at all. The filler neck will come out behind the fender on
the lower end panel. I'm thinking about cutting a hole in the end panel and
putting a grommet around it and have a chrome cap on it the way you did on
your F100 which leads to my question. Where did you get the rubber grommet
for the filler neck? Is it a stock Ford part and do you know if it is still
available? If so what year truck did the fender come from? Or is there an
after market company I can buy the grommet from?
Also the tank that I bought has additional vent tubes for emission controls.
Did the tank you used have these and if so how did you hook up all the extra
vent tubes? Did you go ahead and vent them to air or did you connect them to
the correct vacuum canister?
I've got a 49 F-1 that is driving me crazy with electrical problems. Short
of rewiring the old girl I've replaced all the electrical gadgets under the
hood. This includes points, plugs, condenser, plug wires, solenoid (starter
relay), distributor cap, starter button and voltage regulator.
I've had it running and when it runs it runs good. It's when I shut it off
and try to start it again that I have a problem. Right now I've recharged
the battery and when I press the starter button all that happens is that the
starter relay clicks and nothing else. If I use my battery charger "Start
engine" function it sounds like a machine gun. The starter never turns
After reading my Fix Your Ford book I believe that my battery is either dead
or doesn't have enough power to turn the starter. Can anyone confirm or
deny this for me?
One last thing you should know is that when the starter does turn over the
negative cable to the starter relay gets really hot!!
Take a look at the truck at www.geocities.com/eellston/
Your help would be appreciated!
Ed and the Effie
Batteries are one of the first things I get for whatever I drag home. I
think you should check
ground straps for dirt at bolt connections. Should be a big strap from frame
to engine block,
lots of times near starter that could be missing, then one small one from
engine to body at
firewall area. This bypasses any rubber motor or other mounts which prevent
and it tries to ground through easiest route, sometimes smaller wires that
can't take the
full current load. I use star or spiked washers under all my cable bolts.
G. L. Perry
54 Chevy 2-ton (driver)
50 Chevy COE (project)
MM Jet Star 3 Super (tractor)
From: Ed E hotmail.com>
To: pre61-listford-trucks.com ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 3:03 PM
Subject: [pre61-list] Electrical Problems
>I've got a 49 F-1 that is driving me crazy with electrical problems. Short
>of rewiring the old girl I've replaced all the electrical gadgets under the
>hood. This includes points, plugs, condenser, plug wires, solenoid
>relay), distributor cap, starter button and voltage regulator.
>I've had it running and when it runs it runs good. It's when I shut it off
>and try to start it again that I have a problem. Right now I've recharged
>the battery and when I press the starter button all that happens is that
>starter relay clicks and nothing else. If I use my battery charger "Start
>engine" function it sounds like a machine gun. The starter never turns
>After reading my Fix Your Ford book I believe that my battery is either
>or doesn't have enough power to turn the starter. Can anyone confirm or
>deny this for me?
>One last thing you should know is that when the starter does turn over the
>negative cable to the starter relay gets really hot!!
>Take a look at the truck at www.geocities.com/eellston/
>Your help would be appreciated!
>Ed and the Effie
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 21:53:20 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: 2001 Ford Lightning
An artist rendition of the 2001 Ford Lightning, supplied by
Ford Motor Company, can be found in the news section of the
web site. I've also included a high resolution version
suitable for printing.
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
I have driven the panel truck a couple of times, that straight axle up
front is pretty scary though. I need higher gears in the back but I
really don't know if I want that much speed right now if the front end
is goingto wander so much. Is anyone else running a truck with the old
straight axle and if so are they really this bad or is my worn out? I
could replace the kingpins and that will probably help some. The truck
has a nine inch rear end under it so I can change the gears pretty
easily. Just thought I would try to get someone elses ideas on this set
up. Also, does anyone know who sells a horn that makes the old
"a-oooo-ga" sound? I have looked at JC Whitney but did not find
anything. I was thinking about putting a horn like this on my truck,
just for the novelty of it.
Thanks as always for your great help.
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