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perf-list Digest Fri, 02 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 015

In This Issue:
Re: leaf spring modification
Sway bars for ranger
Re: Understeer
Re: Understeer
Re: leaf spring modification
Re: Understeer
ADMIN: Important FTE list survey
Re: Understeer
engine mounts and bump stops

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From: Slamed150 aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:22:11 EST
Subject: Re: leaf spring modification

The springs are under some load but not as much if u keep the tension off of
them. The rods and not all thread the are a round head bolt and nut..i have
used a nut and bolt before just make sure it is about the same size as the
original one.


Chris
87 f-150 lowrider dragin ass on air....



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Sway bars for ranger
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 00:08:04 -0600

Wish writes:  >>Check the Ranger's with towing packages, they may've come with rear sway bars
on them too ... <<

How about the Explorers.  Lots of them have swaybars and they should be a bolt in..

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: WJeff43 aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:39:46 EST
Subject: Re: Understeer


Could any of you give me and education on the terms understeer and oversteer
and the causes of each?  I hear and read the terms frequently, but I don't
really know what they mean.
Bill Jeffreys

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From: "Kurt" <blur1 buckeye-express.com>
Subject: Re: Understeer
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:23:15 -0500


I believe that understeer is when you turn to go left you just go straight,
and oversteer is just the opposite,turn to go left and the ass end swings
around,
Kurt
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From: Kevin Kemmerer <kevkem epix.net>
Subject: Re: leaf spring modification
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:03:08 -0500

Grade 8 or better might be a good idea too.
Kevin

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From: Slamed150 aol.com[SMTP:Slamed150 aol.com]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:22 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [perf-list] Re: leaf spring modification

The springs are under some load but not as much if u keep the tension off of
them. The rods and not all thread the are a round head bolt and nut..i have
used a nut and bolt before just make sure it is about the same size as the
original one.


Chris
87 f-150 lowrider dragin ass on air....



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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Understeer
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:55:50 -0800

Exactly. Most front wheel drive cars suffer from understeer, and most rear wheel drive vehicles suffer from oversteer. (Assuming you are on the gas, taking the tires to the limits of their grip)

Isn't rear wheel drive fun?  :-)


Garrett Nelson
www.1966ford.com
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 From: Kurt
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 Subject: [perf-list] Re: Understeer


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 I believe that understeer is when you turn to go left you just go straight,
 and oversteer is just the opposite,turn to go left and the ass end swings
 around,
 Kurt
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: <WJeff43 aol.com>
 To: <perf-list ford-trucks.com>
 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:39 AM
 Subject: [perf-list] Re: Understeer


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 > Support FTE - Check out our store:
 > http://www.motorhaven.com/
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 > Could any of you give me and education on the terms understeer and
 oversteer
 > and the causes of each?  I hear and read the terms frequently, but I don't
 > really know what they mean.
 > Bill Jeffreys
 >


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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 13:22:51 -0500
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Subject: ADMIN: Important FTE list survey


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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:31:19 -0500
From: Thomas Teixeira <tjt world.std.com>
Subject: Re: Understeer


At 11:23 AM 2/3/2001 -0500, Kurt wrote:
>I believe that understeer is when you turn to go left you just go straight,
>and oversteer is just the opposite,turn to go left and the ass end swings
>around,
>Kurt

I've also heard it as what happens when you take a turn too fast: with
understeer, your front fender hits the wall first; with oversteer, your
rear fender hits the wall first. :-)



Tom Teixeira mailto:tjt world.std.com
1935 Ford Pickup (flathead
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 16:17:52 -0500
Subject: Re: leaf spring modification
From: Paul M Radecki <lordjanusz juno.com>


Jim posted:
-when I put in a new center bolt, it appears to be threaded rod-  is is
just a piece of all thread? and are the springs under any type  of "force
fit" where they don't just nest together and some type of force needs to
be
applied to get them back together.

My current plan is to not remove the set of 10 leaves from the truck (to
avoid the shackle bolt removal game).  I plan on removiing springs 3 and
4
to provide more initial compliance  ( I have been advised to keep the #2
spring as this is very important to the #1 spring). My thinking is that
taking out the 3 and 4 spring will provide less support under the 1 and 2
spring, allowing them to flex more - this providing a softer ride (SNIP)

Jim-
    I modified the leaf packs on my '94 F150, and I am assuming that the
engineering is similar to your older, heavier truck.  My center bolt was
a bolt.  The only thing notably special about it was that the head had to
fit into a recess on the axle's spring perch.  The springs were under
compression, so I did this:  C-clamp the spring pack together.  Remove
the center bolt, and replace with a long bolt (or threaded rod) and nut
(s).  Remove clamp, then loosen the nut (s) to release the spring
compression safely.  Installation is the reverse of removal.
    The only thing I might change in your plan, based solely upon
intuition rather than experience, would be to remove alternate springs
rather than adjacent ones (3 and 5 instead of 3 and 4).  I suspect (and
this is speculation) that having a long leaf bearing directly upon a much
shorter one might cause the longer one to break.

lordjanusz juno.com
'94 F150
'73 F100


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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 18:26:15 -0800
From: phil <phil ableofficemachines.com>
Subject: engine mounts and bump stops


i find i have a damaged drivers side motor mount.. what are thoughts
about
1. solid mounts  2. chained mounts 3. are there many different "stock"
mounts for a 302.. the ones i have are not stock.. and what they are i
am not sure.. am i going to have problems finding/identifying the
correct motor mounts...

looking for REAR  bumpstop options.. my 4 inch duffs cracked off really
quick and am looking into options on their replacement.. one option is a
solid mount (the duff mounts are honeycombed) or even a hydraulic
bumpstop mounted on the side of the frame rail .   ideas ???

phil


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Serious performance help for your Ford!
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-How to Install and Use Nitrous Oxide
-Step-By-Step Guide To Engine Blueprinting
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