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perf-list Digest Tue, 30 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 013

In This Issue:
Re: 3" Exhaust Help!
Re: 3" Exhaust Help!
Re: 3" Exhaust Help!
460 pistons
flows......
3" Exhaust
Ranger tires

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:11:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Roger Lane <Lanero excite.com>
Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help!


Maybe you could look into something like this.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/09/ccinserts/index.shtml

They're tunable inserts for your headers.  Maybe something like this would
quiet your system down?

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:07:06 -0700, perf-list ford-trucks.com wrote:

>  Hey Guys~  After  having my exhaust on my truck for only about a 3 weeks,
it's time to take it off. It is WAYYYYYY too loud and also too much
resanence (spelling). My exhaust has the following:
>
>  A- Super Comp Headers
>  B- 3" pipe
>  C- Magna-Flow muffflers
>
>    The "real" reason I want to change this out is because I don't want my
10 month old daughter to have hearing damage from riding w/ daddy when he
does his errands, LOL...plus it won't fly with the wife either.  So here
comes the part that blew me away.....I go to my local muffler shop
(supposedly, he is a performance guy...nice ford trucks too) anyways, I tell
him what is going on. I mention that I am interested in the 3 chamber
Flowmasters. He says no matter what kind of muffler I use, it will be almost
impossible to quiet down a 3" exhaust.....Now I did not fall off a damn
turnip truck, I know that is possible to run w/ a quieter muffler, I just am
not sure of which to go with. I want it to still sound good...kinda
"throatie".  His idea (he says he has done this before I might add) was to
keep my exhaust the same...BUT.....almost at the end pipe, insert a 18"
glass pack...........yes that is right..........a frickin glass pack...he
says that it gets rid of the ressanence.  !
>  Also, he wants to charge me $280 to do it. So as soon as he said that I
told him NOOOOOOO thanks.  My brother is a serious Mustanger and he says I
should look into the Bolra muffler. I reckon that the "older" gearheads run
with those because they are quiet. I have never heard  anything that has had
Bolra exhaust on it. So I was hoping that some of you truck owners has has
some experience with what I am dealing with.  I need to stick with a good
muffler, because of the amount of HP I am pumping out this motor. Any and
all replies are much appreciated. THANKS GUY!!!
>
>  p.s.  anyone out there running flows?  what do ya think bout them???
>
>  Corbin
>  72 F-100   428SCJ  627hp
>  68 F-100 "project"
>
>


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From: "O'Connell, Dennis M" <DMO1 pge.com>
Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help!
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:09:30 -0800


Corbin,

I'm running super comp headers, short 21/2 inch pipe with a h pipe crossover
and 3 chamber flows.  Sounds good and not to loud.  This is on a slightly
pumped 429.  Had the two chambers and they rattled the neighbors windows at
idle.  The 3 chambers are just right.  No resonance in the cab.

Dennis
55F100

> ----------
> From: Corbin Johnson[SMTP:streetrod sedona.net]
> Reply To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:07 PM
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [perf-list] 3" Exhaust Help!
>
> Hey Guys~  After  having my exhaust on my truck for only about a 3 weeks,
> it's time to take it off. It is WAYYYYYY too loud and also too much
> resanence (spelling). My exhaust has the following:
>
> A- Super Comp Headers
> B- 3" pipe
> C- Magna-Flow muffflers
>
>   The "real" reason I want to change this out is because I don't want my
> 10 month old daughter to have hearing damage from riding w/ daddy when he
> does his errands, LOL...plus it won't fly with the wife either.  So here
> comes the part that blew me away.....I go to my local muffler shop
> (supposedly, he is a performance guy...nice ford trucks too) anyways, I
> tell him what is going on. I mention that I am interested in the 3 chamber
> Flowmasters. He says no matter what kind of muffler I use, it will be
> almost impossible to quiet down a 3" exhaust.....Now I did not fall off a
> damn turnip truck, I know that is possible to run w/ a quieter muffler, I
> just am not sure of which to go with. I want it to still sound
> good...kinda "throatie".  His idea (he says he has done this before I
> might add) was to keep my exhaust the same...BUT.....almost at the end
> pipe, insert a 18" glass pack...........yes that is right..........a
> frickin glass pack...he says that it gets rid of the ressanence.!
>    !
> Also, he wants to charge me $280 to do it. So as soon as he said that I
> told him NOOOOOOO thanks.  My brother is a serious Mustanger and he says I
> should look into the Bolra muffler. I reckon that the "older" gearheads
> run with those because they are quiet. I have never heard  anything that
> has had Bolra exhaust on it. So I was hoping that some of you truck owners
> has has some experience with what I am dealing with.  I need to stick with
> a good muffler, because of the amount of HP I am pumping out this motor.
> Any and all replies are much appreciated. THANKS GUY!!!
>
> p.s.  anyone out there running flows?  what do ya think bout them???
>
> Corbin
> 72 F-100   428SCJ  627hp
> 68 F-100 "project"
>
>

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:57:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Sullivan <trendsetter4life yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help!


just some food for thought.  I lived in Santa rosa california for a few years home
of flowmaster so excuse my bisist here.  I would say that of course three inch pipe
is gonna be loud your not gonna find a quite 3" unless you got a few mufflers or
something in line.  I would say if you went with a 3 chamber and depending where
along the line you run it as well will determ the sound and also how it is aimed
makes tons of difference.  Now I run only flow masters on all my vechiles it is one
of the first things i do when i get them is a K&N and flow's.  Now if you have the
tip turned down it sounds way different from tip out the side or out the back.  It
is just my opion it is gonna have some volume but I threw a 2 chamber on my 50 year
old mothers summer miata and she loves the sound of it then again small pipe as
well.  It just goes back to the 3" pipe you got.  I mean flows depending ou your
part of the country run from $40 to $70 a muffler i know there pricey but what about
duels it would quite things down cause you could have small piping.  As for the
Borla's now they are an awsome sounding pipe, I dont know about big blocks and all
but on stangs' and other little sports cars i dont even have to look there is no
mitaking a borla they just have there own sound....i would say flows do to
though...just my two cents on it all


chris sullivam
1992 Jeep Wrangler
1979 f-150 4x4

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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: 460 pistons
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:31:31 -0600

Anyone out there in FTE land got a set of 460 pistons of '68-'71
vintage that they would like to get rid of??  One of mine has
the skirt broken.  # cast in side next to wristpin is C8VE C..
They are from a '70 model 4V motor out of an LTD...

Contact me off list if you have some you'd like to get rid of.
I'd consider others than the # above, but I want the earlier
ones..Not sure if there are other #'s or not for those

Maggi11 Hiwaay.net
Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:59:23 -0800
From: scott <scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: flows......


I really like the sound of my 3 chamber Flows.Nicely put together out of
thick steel with high quality welds.

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From: "Corbin Johnson" <streetrod sedona.net>
Subject: 3" Exhaust
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:08:13 -0700

Thanks to all who replied to my delima. I think I might just put her on a trailor and take it down to the big city and have it checked out there. I tried to get ahold od Flowmaster today to ask some tech questions, but man....was on hold for like 20 minutes, so I gave up. Also, I was told that I might want to try an X-Pipe. now I helped my brother put his on his 88GT. He is running mac headers, Bassani X-pipe and Flowmaster mufflers. That thing has a major drone at highway speed. So I'm not too sure bou tthe X-pipe idea. I am going to look into the kind of muffler that Tracy mentioned. Oh and before I forget......My parents have a new addition to "our" FORD family....my Mother bought a 2000 Lightning today. I find it hilarious because of the fact that she is in her mid 50's and this is her first "performance" vehicle of any type. She has driven an 86 Surburban since 86. We are taking it to the track this Friday night to see what it will run. The say that it will run a 13.7. Man, I tell ya what, it is a very, very fun truck to drive. Anyways, I will quit rumbling on.

Corbin
72 F-100  428SCJ 627hp
68 F-100 "project"

Chris (brother)
88GT  302 N/A  I believe he is in the 12's now

Suni (Chris's fiance)
97 Cobra #70

Dad
95 Cobra
66 GTO

Mom
00 Lightning

Amanda (sister)
still looking for her 1rst stang


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From: "Greg Hopper" <ghopper hiwaay.net>
Subject: Ranger tires
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:19:05 -0600

It's gonna be time to put new treads on my 94 Ranger SC soon, and I wanted to know what other sizes you guys have used on your trucks.  I'd like to get something a little wider than the stock 225/70/14, but I'd like to stay close to the same overall diameter (certainly no shorter).  Somethng in about a 245 or so... give me some ideas.  They will need fit on the stock wheels.

Also, what other models could i possibly grab larger front and/or rear swaybars off of?  I was thinkin possibly a Splash, but am unsure.  I also know some of the Bronco IIs came with rear bars, if they would be compatible.  The truck has a lot of body roll (to me anyway), and I'd like to eliminate some of that, as well as the overwhelming understeer.  I don't really want to sink 2 or 3 hundred into aftermarket bars though... just need something to make her a bit more stable.
TIA
dave
ghopper hiwaay.net


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End of perf-list Digest V2001 #13
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Serious performance help for your Ford!
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Ford Truck  Enthusiasts  offers the following in its online store to
assist you in your quest for more horsepower:
-Superchips performance chips
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-How to Tune and Modify Ford Fuel Injection
-How to Install and Use Nitrous Oxide
-Step-By-Step Guide To Engine Blueprinting
-Performance Modifying Ford Trucks
-Super Tuning and Modifying Holley Carburetors
-Super Tuning and Modifying Carter Carburetors

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