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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 08:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: perf-list digest users <listar Reply-to: perf-list Subject: perf-list Digest V2001 #12 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe perf-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ perf-list Digest Mon, 29 Jan 2001 Volume: 2001 Issue: 012 In This Issue: 351c dizzy question 3" Exhaust Help! Re: 3" Exhaust Help! Re: 3" Exhaust Help! Re: 351c dizzy question Re: 3" Exhaust Help! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUMPINFORD Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:40:14 EST Subject: 351c dizzy question Hey everybody, got a slightly off topic question, but it can be applied to a Ford truck rather easily, so here goes. Im runnin a 351c in my 71 Mustang, and recently converted to a duraspark unit I salvaged from a 78 f-250 w 400. Would I be better off running a 460 dizzy for the difference in mech adavance, or is the one for the 400 more suited to my needs? It runs great, real smooth, but I figure I wouldn't notice it being under par. Any advice on this is greatly appreciated. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Corbin Johnson" <streetrod Subject: 3" Exhaust Help! Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 22:07:06 -0700 Hey Guys~ After having my exhaust on my truck for only about a 3 weeks, it's time to take it off. It is WAYYYYYY too loud and also too much resanence (spelling). My exhaust has the following: A- Super Comp Headers B- 3" pipe C- Magna-Flow muffflers The "real" reason I want to change this out is because I don't want my 10 month old daughter to have hearing damage from riding w/ daddy when he does his errands, LOL...plus it won't fly with the wife either. So here comes the part that blew me away.....I go to my local muffler shop (supposedly, he is a performance guy...nice ford trucks too) anyways, I tell him what is going on. I mention that I am interested in the 3 chamber Flowmasters. He says no matter what kind of muffler I use, it will be almost impossible to quiet down a 3" exhaust.....Now I did not fall off a damn turnip truck, I know that is possible to run w/ a quieter muffler, I just am not sure of which to go with. I want it to still sound good...kinda "throatie". His idea (he says he has done this before I might add) was to keep my exhaust the same...BUT.....almost at the end pipe, insert a 18" glass pack...........yes that is right..........a frickin glass pack...he says that it gets rid of the ressanence. Also, he wants to charge me $280 to do it. So as soon as he said that I told him NOOOOOOO thanks. My brother is a serious Mustanger and he says I should look into the Bolra muffler. I reckon that the "older" gearheads run with those because they are quiet. I have never heard anything that has had Bolra exhaust on it. So I was hoping that some of you truck owners has has some experience with what I am dealing with. I need to stick with a good muffler, because of the amount of HP I am pumping out this motor. Any and all replies are much appreciated. THANKS GUY!!! p.s. anyone out there running flows? what do ya think bout them??? Corbin 72 F-100 428SCJ 627hp 68 F-100 "project" ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 00:21:06 EST Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help! Ive got a single 3'' flowmaster on my truck with the 460. Ive yet to hear it with the new engine, but with the old one, it was only loud at idle where it resonated. Anything over idle and the resonance disappeared, and its almost quiet enough that with the stereo on at a reasonable level you cant hear it unless you look for it. I am gathering from a few people that all flowmasters seem to resonate at idle, but thats fine with me, as Id much rather have it do it there, than at cruisin speed on the freeway. Just FYI my system is 2 1/2 inch pipe off the manifolds, into a single 3 inch pipe. It exits just in front of the passenger wheel, as it would have been almost another 100 to go to the back because of the complex bends involved. All in all it sounds great, and makes good power over my stock setup. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Jones, Tracy" <TracyJones Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help! Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:03:03 -0500 Corbin, I have '79 F250 4x4 with a warmed up 429. I'm running 1 7/8" L&L headers (outside the frame rails) feeding into short pieces of 3" pipe going into 3 chamber Flowmasters exiting with turned down dumps just before the rear tires. It's WAAAAY TOO LOUD! On the other side of the fence, I have Flowtech Terminator mufflers on my '93 Lightning and absolutely love 'em. I will be replacing my F250 Flowmasters with a pair of Terminators very soon. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flowtech.com/term-muf.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carreview.com/reviews/exhaust/product_2293.shtml Tracy red '93 Lightning 14.8 NLOC 279 -----Original Message----- From: Corbin Johnson [mailto:streetrod Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:07 AM To: perf-list Subject: [perf-list] 3" Exhaust Help! snip p.s. anyone out there running flows? what do ya think bout them??? Corbin 72 F-100 428SCJ 627hp 68 F-100 "project" ------------------------------ From: Kevin Kemmerer <kevkem Subject: Re: 351c dizzy question Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:19:06 -0500 That would depend on what the difference in advance is, and what your 351 needs. Either one could be recurved without too much difficulty I am sure. Kevin ---------- From: JUMPINFORD Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 9:40 PM To: 61-79-list Subject: [perf-list] 351c dizzy question Hey everybody, got a slightly off topic question, but it can be applied to a Ford truck rather easily, so here goes. Im runnin a 351c in my 71 Mustang, and recently converted to a duraspark unit I salvaged from a 78 f-250 w 400. Would I be better off running a 460 dizzy for the difference in mech adavance, or is the one for the 400 more suited to my needs? It runs great, real smooth, but I figure I wouldn't notice it being under par. Any advice on this is greatly appreciated. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: Kevin Kemmerer <kevkem Subject: Re: 3" Exhaust Help! Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:41:53 -0500 My Borla's are loud. Flowmasters seem to be louder at idle. Some OEMs put glasspacks in their exhaust system in addition to their standard turbo mufflers to reduce resonance. It works. It works, because it increases restriction as much as it absorbs sound. Consider big flowmasters, or Borla (Nice stainless steel, not just aluminized!). Consider also ading some sound matting to the cab of the truck. Ford didn't have much to begin with. The floorboards, the firewall, and the back all allow alot of sound to pass through. Kevin ---------- From: Corbin Johnson[SMTP:streetrod Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:07 AM To: perf-list Subject: [perf-list] 3" Exhaust Help! Hey Guys~ After having my exhaust on my truck for only about a 3 weeks, it's time to take it off. It is WAYYYYYY too loud and also too much resanence (spelling). My exhaust has the following: A- Super Comp Headers B- 3" pipe C- Magna-Flow muffflers The "real" reason I want to change this out is because I don't want my 10 month old daughter to have hearing damage from riding w/ daddy when he does his errands, LOL...plus it won't fly with the wife either. So here comes the part that blew me away.....I go to my local muffler shop (supposedly, he is a performance guy...nice ford trucks too) anyways, I tell him what is going on. I mention that I am interested in the 3 chamber Flowmasters. He says no matter what kind of muffler I use, it will be almost impossible to quiet down a 3" exhaust.....Now I did not fall off a damn turnip truck, I know that is possible to run w/ a quieter muffler, I just am not sure of which to go with. I want it to still sound good...kinda "throatie". His idea (he says he has done this before I might add) was to keep my exhaust the same...BUT.....almost at the end pipe, insert a 18" glass pack...........yes that is right..........a frickin glass pack...he says that it gets rid of the ressanence. ! Also, he wants to charge me $280 to do it. So as soon as he said that I told him NOOOOOOO thanks. My brother is a serious Mustanger and he says I should look into the Bolra muffler. I reckon that the "older" gearheads run with those because they are quiet. I have never heard anything that has had Bolra exhaust on it. So I was hoping that some of you truck owners has has some experience with what I am dealing with. I need to stick with a good muffler, because of the amount of HP I am pumping out this motor. Any and all replies are much appreciated. THANKS GUY!!! p.s. anyone out there running flows? what do ya think bout them??? Corbin 72 F-100 428SCJ 627hp 68 F-100 "project" ------------------------------ End of perf-list Digest V2001 #12 ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts Performance, Hot-Rod and Custom Truck List Send posts to perf-list To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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