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perf-list Digest Thu, 19 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 157

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Re: the wide world of 2.9s.
Re: the wide world of 2.9s.
Re: the wide world of 2.9s.
Fw: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !
K and N in the 2.9s.

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"chip questions"
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"RE: chip questions"
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Messages posted in Performance, Hot-Rodding and General Engine Building
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"351C - M bolts"
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"Bellhousing cover"
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"RE: any one ever used Energy Release."
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"RE: 302 compared to 302 HO"
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"RE: any one ever used Energy Release."
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"Goin to Quiet Exhaust"
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"RE: any one ever used Energy Release."
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"RE: any one ever used Energy Release."
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"302ci Power upgrades???"
Posted by mattc302 on 10/17/2000 14:58:11
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/perf/310.html#0

"RE: any one ever used Energy Release."
Posted by TallPaul on 10/17/2000 15:51:48
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/perf/308.html#5

"351m eating distributer"
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http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/perf/311.html#0

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"RE: 406 heads"
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"390 FE Valvetrain Parts"
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"390 valvetrain"
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"RE: 406 heads"
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"rockers"
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"Different 390 heads "
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"RE: 390 FE Valvetrain Parts"
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"RE: 390 FE Valvetrain Parts"
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"RE: Clifford Headers and now no EGR valve!!! HELP!!!"
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"Gas milage WOES!! 14.2 MPG!!!"
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"EGR Value"
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"RE: Gas milage WOES!! 14.2 MPG!!!"
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"RE: HELP! 1993 F150 stalls"
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"RE: Gas milage WOES!! 14.2 MPG!!!"
Posted by Paul on 10/17/2000 00:03:37
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"RE: EGR Value"
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"RE: Gas milage WOES!! 14.2 MPG!!!"
Posted by kevint on 10/17/2000 01:20:23
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID9/162.html#3

"20W50 oil "
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"RE: 20W50 oil "
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"RE: 20W50 oil "
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"RE: EGR Value"
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"RE: 20W50 oil "
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"Carb ID on 67 F250"
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"RE: Carb ID on 67 F250"
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"RE: Carb ID on 67 F250"
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"Engine Specs and hesitation problems"
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"RE: 86 f-250 4x4 460"
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"RE: 86 f-250 4x4 460"
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"Phillup Guidry...Can you help on this?"
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"351/400, Which one do I have? ? ?"
Posted by charlez on 10/17/2000 02:55:43
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"RE: 351/400, Which one do I have? ? ?"
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"swapping 400 for 460"
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"RE: swapping 400 for 460"
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"RE: swapping 400 for 460"
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"RE: swapping 400 for 460"
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"RE: swapping 400 for 460"
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"RE: Need to know about the 4.6 and the 5.4...."
Posted by Pastmaster on 10/17/2000 18:48:40
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"RE: Need to know about the 4.6 and the 5.4...."
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Messages posted in 221/260/289/302/351w V8
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"RE: I've got a bad problem with my 86 351W.....please help."
Posted by gypsybill on 10/16/2000 21:51:32
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/150.html#4

"RE: Weak 289/302 "
Posted by Pastmaster on 10/17/2000 18:41:46
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/151.html#7

"RE: Weak 289/302 "
Posted by papaul on 10/17/2000 19:26:33
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/151.html#8

"' 79 302 (CAR) exhaust"
Posted by Supercab on 10/17/2000 21:40:42
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/153.html#0

"RE: Weak 289/302 "
Posted by Pastmaster on 10/18/2000 17:37:30
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/151.html#9

"RE: 351W price"
Posted by pkbronc on 10/18/2000 19:34:29
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/DCForumID18/144.html#6



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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 10:50:25 -0700
From: john yee <johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: the wide world of 2.9s.


Great stuff.

> I did all of the exhaust work myself, since they wanted $300 to weld the JBA output to the
> input of the catalytic convertor. No way man!! I even extracted the eight frozen bolts
> myself, taking two days and a few reverse threaded drill bits.

Yeah. I gotta believe this rework has been expensive. I've priced world heads,
injectors, axles, TB's, MSD components, Atlas II's etc...

So I also noticed you run a K&N cone filter. How do you get that to pass
visual smog inspection here in Ca? Convert back to stock?

I'm just south of you in San Jose, and had a 1980 4x4 Toyota. Dealing
with smog tests we're such a pain, that I had to sell the truck :-(. But
it did cause me to buy Fords :-).





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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:03:23 -0700
From: john yee <johny netapp.com>
Subject: Re: the wide world of 2.9s.

> At the same time, I replaced both fuel filters on the bronco, there are two of them!! I
> also replaced the high pressure pump with a brand new one, since it burned up a relay and
> fuseable link and was making odd clicking noises.

For what it's worth, the 89 bronco's have only one fuel pump.
It's in the tank.

Had to change it recently. What a pain. I was really surprised to see open wires
*in* the tank, where the seal connects to the fuel pump. For some reason, I
expected every thing to be all sealed, etc. I guess they never expect to
see sparks in there :-).

Also, i've seen a jc whitney replacement tank that holds 33 gallons vs. the stock
23. Don't know if it's compatible with the stock skid plate though.
Something to consider.


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From: Bogginf350 aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 17:53:06 EDT
Subject: Re: the wide world of 2.9s.

In a message dated 10/19/00 6:00:29 PM !!!First Boot!!!, johny netapp.com
writes:

<< > At the same time, I replaced both fuel FILTERS.. JACKASS... on the
bronco, there are two of them!! I
> also replaced the high pressure pump with a brand new one, since it burned
up a relay and
> fuseable link and was making odd clicking noises.

For what it's worth, the 89 bronco's have only one fuel pump.
It's in the tank. >>

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From: "Joel" <treefort prodigy.net>
Subject: Fw: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:55:10 -0500


______________________________
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Subject: Fw: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !


>
>
> ----------
> > From: John Watkins <j&gw mail2.lcia.com>
> > To: Anita Thomas <AnitaJT prodigy.net>; Charles Carlisle
> <ccarlisle danielrealty.com>; Beth Miller <Beth MillerMail.net>; Stan
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> > Subject: Fw: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !
> > Date: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 7:47 AM
> >
> > Forward!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: JO ELLEN JACKSON <JOJO.JACK worldnet.att.net>
> > To: Ackert-Burr, Cheri [ASP] <cackertb ASPUS.JNJ.com>; <ANNWY aol.com>;
> joe
> > aramodor <SurgeryJoe aol.com>; Bill BAiley <bbailey vsta.com>; Brandi
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> <freesam gte.net>;
> > Andy Gann <AndyGann cs.c
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 6:56 PM
> > Subject: Fw: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Patrick Crane <xhorn webtv.net>
> > > To: <nwickham trailnet.com>; <billpats juno.com>;
> <bobinelpas webtv.net>;
> > > <carlbea aol.com>; <cjohanson law.com>; <LAFAYETT ktc.com>;
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> > > <papajohn lcc.net>; <keelymobley prodigy.net>;
> > <kenwickham mindspring.com>;
> > > <jimmcsc aol.com>; <ljenks52 hotmail.com>; <countryflyfish fbg.net>;
> > > <heavypc1 yahoo.com>; <tom tthompson.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:30 PM
> > > Subject: AL GORE IN VIETNAM !
> > >
> > >
> > > AL GORE IN VIET NAM - VIETNAM VETS ATTENTION "Rod J. Martin" wrote:
> > > Having posted a little tickler in last week's Digest about Al Gore's
> 141
> > > days in Vietnam," The Federalist Editorial Board was inundated with
> > > inquiries from Vietnam vets. Most went something like this: "Gore
> > > claimed in his convention speech: 'I enlisted in the Army because I
> knew
> > > if I didn't go, someone else in the small town of Carthage, Tennessee
> > > would have to go in my place.' Since he wasn't KIA or wounded, how was
> > > it that his Army tour was far shorter than all the rest of us?" Our
> > > astute veteran readers took the bait! Gore's campaign launched a
> > > multimillion-dollar ad campaign this week to tell his "life story."
The
> > > ads will include references to his service" in Vietnam, however brief.
> > > Gore spent less than five months of a typical twelve-month tour in
> > > Vietnam. He spent every minute of his "tour" as a "rear echelon...."
> > > (call any combat veteran and they can complete that phrase for you).
He
> > > was classified as a military journalist after telling recruiters he
was
> > > a newspaper trainee" (read "copy boy") for the New York Times while a
> > > student at Harvard. He was assigned as a noncombatant "information
> > > specialist" to the Army's 20th Engineers Brigade headquarters at Bien
> > > Hoa military base near Saigon. Gore's immediate supervisor in Vietnam
> > > has confirmed that his posting there came with explicit instructions
to
> > > baby-sit him (his daddy) and make sure he was never in any danger.
That
> > > fact notwithstanding, Gore has claimed to the Washington Post that he
> > > was "shot at" and "spent most of my time in the field." He later told
> > > the Baltimore Sun that "I pulled my turn on the perimeter at night and
> > > walked through the elephant grass and I was fired upon." He has since
> > > backed off these exaggerated claims.
> > > On May 22, 1971, not five months into his "tour of duty," Gore was
> given
> > > special dispensation and a one-way ticket home to attend divinity
> school
> > > in Nashville. He dropped out shortly thereafter. As for the seven
> months
> > > cut from Gore's tour of duty in Vietnam, we suppose "someone else in
> the
> > > small town of Carthage, Tennessee" had to finish his tour "in his
> > > place."
> > > If everyone sends the above to 7 people, I am positive that we can do
> > > some good for the COUNTRY.
> > > And please remember to VOTE!!! That's what we fought
> > > for!!!!...............
> > >
> > >
> > >


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Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 21:23:07 +0100
From: Adam McLaughlin <kd6poc jps.net>
Subject: K and N in the 2.9s.

You had a toyota!! How funny. I am dealing with a magnetic sign shop here in town to help me
design a cool magnetic sign for the tailgate of the bronco 2. It says:

<mighty blue oval up here>
Ford Bronco 2:

The official Toyota Recovery Vehicle

I removed the air box, and bought a K and N filter with the inside diameter the same size as the
outside diameter of the air hose. I then removed the spring that goes inside the ait hose, and
slipped the K and N on top of the hose. Made a big improvement in power, miles per gallon went
up and the engine was much quicker to Rev than before. When I smogg it, I simply take off the
air cone, and re attach the air box.

I think it will pass the sniffer with flying colors, but as for the visual someone will ask some
dumb questions.

Adam

Ha ha ha ha ha.

john yee wrote:

> Great stuff.
>
> > I did all of the exhaust work myself, since they wanted $300 to weld the JBA output to the
> > input of the catalytic convertor. No way man!! I even extracted the eight frozen bolts
> > myself, taking two days and a few reverse threaded drill bits.
>
> Yeah. I gotta believe this rework has been expensive. I've priced world heads,
> injectors, axles, TB's, MSD components, Atlas II's etc...
>
> So I also noticed you run a K&N cone filter. How do you get that to pass
> visual smog inspection here in Ca? Convert back to stock?
>
> I'm just south of you in San Jose, and had a 1980 4x4 Toyota. Dealing
> with smog tests we're such a pain, that I had to sell the truck :-(. But ....

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