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perf-list Digest Wed, 13 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 142

In This Issue:
ADMIN: New site feature
OK Engine Gurus...
Re: OK Engine Gurus...
87 Bronco II 302/C-4  4WD for sale
Re: OK Engine Gurus...
Re: OK Engine Gurus...
ADMIN: FTE Picture Gallery Additions
Electric Water Pumps
Hydrogen power for anyone
Re: Electric Water Pumps - food for thought...

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 01:14:50 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: New site feature

On the left hand side of the main page of the Ford
Truck Enthusiasts web site there is now a list of
the 3 most recent message board threads. Different
forums will rotate out of this spot each day.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: OK Engine Gurus...
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:34:18 -0700

I'm helping my neighbor swap the engine in his pickup. Unfortunately I got
there a little late and one of his buddies had pulled the distributor
without making any marks on ANYTHING. I know how to install a distributor
but how the !#$% do I figure out where to set the thing initially? Anybody?

BTW this is electronic ignition.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"




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From: Kevin Kemmerer <kevkem epix.net>
Subject: Re: OK Engine Gurus...
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:48:54 -0400

Step one:  Take a deep breath.

Steo two:  Smack the guy who took it out without marking the rotor
direction!

Steps three to five:
Then, find TDC on the number 1 piston where both valves are closed (take
the valve cover off of course.)  You could find that using your finger over
the plug hole too sometimes, instead of pulling a valve cover.

Line up the rotor, to about the number one cylinder plug wire post on the
cap.  Now, timing would be very retarded here, so make sure you left enough
room for the assembly to be rotated for proper timing.  You can get closer
to correct timing, using the damper marks if you want to.  I would start at
like 15 or so degrees before TDC.  From there, once it is running you
should be able to time it closer by ear, or right on using a light.

This is the way I would so it, if anyone has a better way, speak up!

Kevin

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From: Bill Beyer[SMTP:bbeyer99 home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 4:34 PM
To: Performance List
Subject: [perf-list] OK Engine Gurus...

I'm helping my neighbor swap the engine in his pickup. Unfortunately I got
there a little late and one of his buddies had pulled the distributor
without making any marks on ANYTHING. I know how to install a distributor
but how the !#$% do I figure out where to set the thing initially? Anybody?

BTW this is electronic ignition.







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From: "Brian A" <richat22 hotmail.com>
Subject: 87 Bronco II 302/C-4  4WD for sale
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:34:57 GMT

I have finished my Bronco II 95%.  The only thing is it lacking is minor
interior details.  I have beeen driving this thing 62 miles each way to work
about twice a week and it has over 1000 miles on it so far doing great.
temp, pressure, all good.  mechanically fine.  In great condition.   Moving
and need to get rid of it quick.  Check it out here:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://southeastern.webjump.com

I hate to get rid of it but have to.  Don't want it sitting and i am moving
600 miles.  The vehicle is located in central AL.

Brian
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:37:45 EDT
Subject: Re: OK Engine Gurus...

Easiest way I know of is to set the crank at TDC by using the timing marks.  I
f it doesnt run, its 180 out, just do a quick pull and spin.  The only time
this wont work is if the harmonic balancer is bad, and the marks have
slipped, or if its a chevy, cuz nothing is quick on a dizzy mounted BEHIND
everything....

Darrell & Tweety

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:40:10 EDT
Subject: Re: OK Engine Gurus...

BTW, by doin it this way, you dont have to pull the valve cover.  Saves a lil
time actually this way.

Darrell & Tweety

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:02:57 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: FTE Picture Gallery Additions

The following trucks have been added to the Ford
Truck Enthusiasts web site Picture Gallery:

1998 F-150 Lariat
1984 F-150 XLT
1979 F-150 4x4
1979 F-150
1976 F-100 Ranger
1976 F-100
1961 F-100
1953 F-100

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "John Webster" <jwebster tnt21.com>
Subject: Electric Water Pumps
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:27:07 -0400


Hi Folks,
   Ran across an article at the www.fordmuscle.com site on electric water
pumps. They do an install and give the link for the US distributor. What I
liked is that for me an electric fan was a big amp draw and I'm still not
convinced it would do as well as my stainless flex fan. The electric water
pump though only draws 7.5 amps tops and frees up alot more HP. I wrote to
the manufacturer in Australia with questions and had a reply the same day.
You can mail him at dcfans daviescraig.com.au or go to the web site
www.daviescraig.com.au.
   Just thought I'd pass this on as food for thought and opinions. Oh yes,
and thank you for the replies on the Boggers, I'll have them mounted this
spring!!!

Regards,

John
'77 F150 460/C6/4:11's/33's



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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:46:47 EDT
Subject: Hydrogen power for anyone

I found this website, thought you might be interested.  I was curious, so I
started digging around and low and behold, the rumor is true.  With a lil
work, we can all drive around, filling up with tap water!  I had really been
considering Propane due to the cost of gas.  Well this system uses a lot of
the same stuff, but also tells you how to make the hydrogen generator.  Im
definately going to research this further, but from the way this sounds, it
wont be hard at all.  Think about it, 460's runnin 12:1 compression, with no
flooding, no pinging, good mileage, and FREE FUEL!!!  Id appreciate your
input on this folks, but it REALLY sounds interesting.  Heres the URL  http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://
www.inlex.org/water/water.html

Darrell & Tweety

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:41:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel <v8pinto yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Electric Water Pumps - food for thought...

> liked is that for me an electric fan was a big amp
> draw and I'm still not
> convinced it would do as well as my stainless flex
> fan. The electric water

I agree.

> pump though only draws 7.5 amps tops and frees up
> alot more HP. I wrote to

I understand but have a question.  I have always
questioned this.  I don't know what particular law it
is but one law of physics is that energy cannot be
created or destroyed, it just changes to something
else.  So, knowing that.  Let's step through it.

A mechanical water pump has drag applied to it by
moving through water.  That drag is lost HP from the
crankshaft, through the belts.

The pumping action of the water still has to come from
somewhere (the physics part).  So we go to an electric
pump.

The pumping action still requires the same amount of
force, it's just coming from the alternator now.  The
electric pump draws from the battery which is charged
by the alternator which is connected to the crank.  So
still a HP loss.

So which one is better, draws less HP, the generation
of electricity or mechanical pump losses?

Always wanted to know that...

"The Ponderer"

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