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From: owner-perf-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (perf-list-digest) To: perf-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: perf-list-digest V3 #15 Reply-To: perf-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-perf-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-perf-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk perf-list-digest Tuesday, January 18 2000 Volume 03 : Number 015 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe perf-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads FTE Perf - 429/460 heads FTE Perf - Darn AOL FTE Perf - RE: 429/460 heads Re: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Re: [FTE Perf - firing order needed] Re: [FTE Perf - Dealer overpricing of shop work] Re: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Re: [FTE Perf - Dealer overpricing of shop work] ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:32:05 EST From: JUMPINFORD AOL.COM Subject: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Hell everyone, quick question. I found a pair of C8VE heads, but they are bare. I am considering using them on my 460, but I need to know if the rockers from my D3V# heads will work. I havent had a chance to look at em close, so I figured your the folks to ask. Thanks folks, See ya. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:35:48 EST From: JUMPINFORD AOL.COM Subject: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Hell everyone, quick question. I found a pair of C8VE heads, but they are bare. I am considering using them on my 460, but I need to know if the rockers from my D3VE heads will work. I havent had a chance to look at em close, so I figured your the folks to ask. Thanks folks, See ya. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:40:55 EST From: JUMPINFORD AOL.COM Subject: FTE Perf - Darn AOL Sorry for the double post, AOL was tweakin out on me, wont happen again I promise. Darrell == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:50:13 -0500 From: Sleddog Subject: FTE Perf - RE: 429/460 heads If my memory is correct (and sometimes it fails miserably), the '73 heads (D3V...) are pedestal mount rockers. The early heads, are stuf mount. Unless of course, someone, or you already had them machined for stud mount. Machining the early heads for pedestal mount, is not to my knowledge possible, or at least not to any advantage. The old heads, need the stock rail rockers or hardened pushrods and guideplates with standard or roller rockers. Personally, i would go with a set of harland sharp roller rockers, and hardened pushrods/guideplates. Get good quality studs and locknuts. Kevin - ---------- From: JUMPINFORD AOL.COM[SMTP:JUMPINFORD AOL.COM] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 2:32 PM To: perf-list ford-trucks.com Subject: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Hell everyone, quick question. I found a pair of C8VE heads, but they are bare. I am considering using them on my 460, but I need to know if the rockers from my D3V# heads will work. I havent had a chance to look at em close, so I figured your the folks to ask. Thanks folks, See ya. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:53:15 EST From: Bogginf350 AOL.COM Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads Yup, they will work but I would recommend going to the adj. style if you still have the positive stop rockers... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 00 19:37:07 EST From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [FTE Perf - firing order needed] able office machines > i know i should have wrote it down.. > need firing order and rotation for a Ford Ranger > 1987 2.9 liter pickup... > = I'm pretty sure all Ford V-6s are 1 4 2 5 3 6.. I'm thinking CCW on the rotation, but bump the starter and double check first! ;-) Manic ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webm= ail.netscape.com. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 00 20:14:11 EST From: Tim Turner Subject: Re: [FTE Perf - Dealer overpricing of shop work] CPortlock AOL.COM wrote: > I am having a runnining dissagreement with my local Ford dealer concern= ing = > charges applied to a work order I just had completed on my 92 F150 Flairside. Poor communication on the service writer's part I'm thinking... I'm goin= g to assume the shop charges $68/Hr > 1. Original estimate=3D Driver side power window does not operate Price= quote > $68.00 1 Hour to diagnose probably :-( Possibly a quote on parts and labor for = a new switch since it's easy to change. > 3. Took the vehicle in on the scheduled date and added for them to chec= k the > right inside door handle since it was binding. This increased the quote= to = > $136.00 which I approved. $68x2.. 1 Hour to check each side Again I think this is just for checki= ng and no parts. > 4. I returned to pick up the completed service call and was informed th= at the = > window motor was faulty and would cost $195.00 for the motor but hey on= ly had > to lubricate the handle on the right side. I again OKd the cost of the= motor = > since I had to have an operational drivers side window. $195 for the motor; nice of him to not mention the additional labor huh? > 5. When I picked up the finished vehicle I was informed that the cost w= as = > $168.00 for repair of the drivers side window' $68.00 for lubricating t= he = > right side door handle and $195.00 for the motor. Soo... 2.5 Hours for replacing the motor and 1 Hour for the right side ha= ndle + the part itself. The motor is riveted in place requiring drilling etc;= certainly a lot more labor intensive than just the switch itself or repai= ring broken wiring between the door and the body. 2-2.5 hours might be a tad = high but I can see it having 'been there, done that' (at a lot cheaper Labor r= ate, but I'm in the low rate area of the nation.) > 6. I believe the original quote of 138.00 to repair both the handle of = the = > right side and the window of the left side should have covered the labo= r and > the only additional charge should have been for the cost of the motor. = I think the service writer did a poor job of informing you of what was required. :-( Without actually going into the door(s) he had no way of knowing what was actually wrong and had no business giving a quote other = than for the labor required to diagnose the problem(s). (Possibly a quote for = parts and labor if it was 1: switch 2: motor.) At my shop it would have been .5= Hour each side to CHECK and then given an estimate from there for parts AND la= bor for what we found. > = > I would appreciate your opinion on these charges. And you have them! :-) In summary I think the bill itself was fair, but= the way it was presented/sold certainly was not.. :-( Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC > = > Thanks = > = > Bud > =3D=3D FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq= =2Ehtml ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webm= ail.netscape.com. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:29:24 -0800 From: George Miller Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 429/460 heads The C8VE are, as Sleddog points out, rail rockers with the later ones being pedestal mounted. For performance and tuning, you'll be a lot better off with the early heads - 75.8cc chambers - than the later 91.4cc heads. On a '73 block, you'll end up with 9.6:1 CR with early heads versus 8.5:1. World of difference. If you don't want to spring for roller rockers, guide plates and hardened push rods and intend to stay under 6000rpm, use stock rail rockers/push rods and aftermarket adjustable lock nuts to set your lifter preludes. George Miller JUMPINFORD AOL.COM wrote: > > Hell everyone, quick question. I found a pair of C8VE heads, but they are > bare. I am considering using them on my 460, but I need to know if the > rockers from my D3V# heads will work. I havent had a chance to look at em > close, so I figured your the folks to ask. Thanks folks, See ya. > > Darrell Duggan > 74 F-350 "Tweety" > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:45:01 EST From: CPortlock AOL.COM Subject: Re: [FTE Perf - Dealer overpricing of shop work] In a message dated 1/17/00 5:14:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, manicmechanicnc netscape.net writes: << I would appreciate your opinion on these charges. And you have them! :-) In summary I think the bill itself was fair, but= the way it was presented/sold certainly was not.. :-( Tim Turner/Manic Mechanic Custer Auto Repair Wilmington NC >> Thank you Bud == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of perf-list-digest V3 #15 ****************************** +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance ----------------+ | Send posts to perf-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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