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perf-list-digest Friday, December 31 1999 Volume 02 : Number 332



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
FTE Perf - new engine
RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
Re: FTE Perf - new engine
Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...
Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 08:14:03 -0600
From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

Okay guys, here's the deal, got an oil pickup comin for the BII today to try
and get that thing straightened out ... going to try and pull the pan with
the motor still in ... I've got a hoist though so I can lift the truck and
the motor a bit ...

A couple of questions :

1) what is the sensor that plugs into the side of the oil pan ? and how is
it supposed to look? This one looks like it might be broken but can't get a
replacement if I don't know what its called :)

2) what is the sensor over the starter ? I pulled it (and tightened the
starter when I put it back in) and it looks like a knock sensor ? Didn't
realize they'd used those that early, does anyone know what it does if it
senses knock ? Most of them pull a few degrees of timing, but haven't heard
of them on the older motors like these ...

3) Anythign else I should look for while I'm under there ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:21:10 -0500
From: "Joe Merchak" eclipse.net>
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

The sensor in the pan is the low oil warning light.

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Subject: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...


Okay guys, here's the deal, got an oil pickup comin for the BII today to try
and get that thing straightened out ... going to try and pull the pan with
the motor still in ... I've got a hoist though so I can lift the truck and
the motor a bit ...

A couple of questions :

1) what is the sensor that plugs into the side of the oil pan ? and how is
it supposed to look? This one looks like it might be broken but can't get a
replacement if I don't know what its called :)

2) what is the sensor over the starter ? I pulled it (and tightened the
starter when I put it back in) and it looks like a knock sensor ? Didn't
realize they'd used those that early, does anyone know what it does if it
senses knock ? Most of them pull a few degrees of timing, but haven't heard
of them on the older motors like these ...

3) Anythign else I should look for while I'm under there ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:45:19 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

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From: William S. Hart iastate.edu>
To: ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 9:14 AM
Subject: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...


> Okay guys, here's the deal, got an oil pickup comin for the BII today to
try
> and get that thing straightened out ... going to try and pull the pan with
> the motor still in ... I've got a hoist though so I can lift the truck and
> the motor a bit ...
>
> A couple of questions :
>
> 1) what is the sensor that plugs into the side of the oil pan ? and how
is
> it supposed to look? This one looks like it might be broken but can't get
a
> replacement if I don't know what its called :)
>
> 2) what is the sensor over the starter ? I pulled it (and tightened the
> starter when I put it back in) and it looks like a knock sensor ? Didn't
> realize they'd used those that early, does anyone know what it does if it
> senses knock ? Most of them pull a few degrees of timing, but haven't
heard
> of them on the older motors like these ...
>
> 3) Anythign else I should look for while I'm under there ?
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
I am pretty sure the one in the side of the pan is an oil level sensor, and
it should have a float type device inside of it... Hook your meter to the
one wire connection on it, and ground the other to the metal part of the
sensor, and move the "float" inside of it and see if you get a resistance
change, if so it is probably working... The one above the starter... Oil
sending unit (Oil pressure switch) maybe???

Brad


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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:44:09 -0600
From: "Joel Thomas" prodigy.net>
Subject: FTE Perf - new engine

I am getting a new 351W out of a 86 or 87 truck put in it will be ready
tuesday
what will the break in procedure be for this engine
they will already have started is and ran it for a while, but i have a 11/2
hour drive home can i drive the whole way, or should i stop and let it cool
of some,and for how long,
also when should i change the oil first is it 100 or 1000 miles and for how
long is the break in 1000 miles??

also isn't a 86 351W gonna be the High Output.
and if it is the 87 then that would be a fuel injected engine and what would
it run like carbarated.
the engine that was in the truck was a 351W 2v not the high output. the
truck is a 84 F-150 4x4

thank you.

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:56:21 -0600
From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

> I am pretty sure the one in the side of the pan is an oil level
> sensor, and
> it should have a float type device inside of it...

Hmmm... I'll look when I get it apart, this one doesn't look to be set up
taht way from the outside, maybe its just broke off though ...

> The one above the starter... Oil
> sending unit (Oil pressure switch) maybe???
>

That's what I thought, but when I pulled it htere was no hole in the end of
it to get the oil pressure from ... that's why I was confused ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:07:54 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

Could this be the knock sensor?
Jason Kendrick

William S. Hart wrote:

> > The one above the starter...

> That's what I thought, but when I pulled it htere was no hole in the end of
> it to get the oil pressure from ... that's why I was confused ...
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:15:41 -0600
From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

> Could this be the knock sensor?

Could be ... did they have them ?

I hadn't heard of them on vehicles this old before (86) ... that might be
causin some of my problems with the lifters rattling in there (if that's
what's really rattling)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:22:06 EST
From: WJeff43 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - new engine

Drive it home, but don't run it at the same steady speed for more than a
couple of minutes. As soon as you get home, change the oil and filter.
Drive the truck normally for a week or so (no drag racing). Pull the valve
covers and re-torque the head bolts. Check all the other bolts for
tightness. Change the oil and filter again. After that, enjoy your new
engine.
Bill Jeffreys
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:29:31 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

86 was an EEC IV motor which I believe would have had knock sensors...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:15 PM
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...


>
> > Could this be the knock sensor?
>
> Could be ... did they have them ?
>
> I hadn't heard of them on vehicles this old before (86) ... that might be
> causin some of my problems with the lifters rattling in there (if that's
> what's really rattling)
>



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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:33:32 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Bronco II questions...

Is the BII injected? If so, it could have a knock sensor.
Jason

William S. Hart wrote:
> Could be ... did they have them ?