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perf-list-digest Saturday, December 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 330



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help
Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help
Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help
FTE Perf - Merry Christmas
FTE Perf - prices
Re: FTE Perf - prices
Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help
Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help
Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:08:54 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

Hey 460 owners! I could use some of your advice. I have the oppertunity
to buy a 1983 F250 460 with 163k+ miles on it. I can get it real cheap,
too. The owners want $100 for it..... But it does have a problem. There
is water in the oil. The motor runs, and has just passed smog.

I know, Ah, yikes. Now, I have no experience with the 460, but I have
done A LOT of work on my 1988 2.9..

Now, from those of you who own 460s, what are the likely causes for this
problem? What can be done about it? Does anyone have any suggestions as
to what teh probem could be?

I would like to buy it cheap, and then spend maybe a day and a half
making it better. It would be a good rig to drive while the Bronco gets
it's 302 swap. (The bronco is getting it's two inch body lift on new
years day to facilitate this swap)

ANY comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Adam

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:30:12 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

Adam, I'm not a 460 owner, but at a hundred bucks, I'd get over there
and buy it quick! Too good of a deal to pass up!
Water in the oil could be a cracked block, cracked head, or a bad head
gasket. If you buy it, I think the first thing you should do is run a
compression check on the cylinders. This will tell you what kind of
shape the clyinders and rings are in, and if you find a cylinder or two
that are lower than the others, that would be where I'd start looking
for the leak. Good luck and have a Merry Christmas!

Jason Kendrick

Adam McLaughlin wrote:
>
> Hey 460 owners! I could use some of your advice. I have the oppertunity
> to buy a 1983 F250 460 with 163k+ miles on it. I can get it real cheap,
> too. The owners want $100 for it..... But it does have a problem. There
> is water in the oil. The motor runs, and has just passed smog.
Does anyone have any suggestions as
> to what the probem could be?
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:37:19 -0800
From: George Miller lv.rmci.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

The most common cause of water in the oil s a bad head gasket. For $100,
buy it and run a compression check.

George Miller

Adam McLaughlin wrote:
>
> Hey 460 owners! I could use some of your advice. I have the oppertunity
> to buy a 1983 F250 460 with 163k+ miles on it. I can get it real cheap,
> too. The owners want $100 for it..... But it does have a problem. There
> is water in the oil. The motor runs, and has just passed smog.
>
> I know, Ah, yikes. Now, I have no experience with the 460, but I have
> done A LOT of work on my 1988 2.9..
>
> Now, from those of you who own 460s, what are the likely causes for this
> problem? What can be done about it? Does anyone have any suggestions as
> to what teh probem could be?
>
> I would like to buy it cheap, and then spend maybe a day and a half
> making it better. It would be a good rig to drive while the Bronco gets
> it's 302 swap. (The bronco is getting it's two inch body lift on new
> years day to facilitate this swap)
>
> ANY comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:59:30 -0600
From: "john niolon" wans.net>
Subject: FTE Perf - Merry Christmas

Fellow FTE'ers,

For all the wisdom that you share, the good and bad answers, comments, wise
cracks,dumb remarks and expecially for the endless Ch*vy/Ford wars....
thanks... You've made my last year more informed and much more enjoyable.
I saw a tag line on another list that sums us ALL up perfectly... "The
reason we're all here....is because we're not all here"

I hope all of you have a beautiful Christmas and a happy, safe and
prosperous New Years (if there is one).


John Niolon


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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:23:22 -0600
From: "ben" itis.com>
Subject: FTE Perf - prices

How much can I expect to pay a machine shop to hot tank, magnaflux, and bore
out a V8 block?




stevee itis.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:11:21 -0800
From: "John D. Lawson" softcom.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - prices

It cost me $225.00

At 01:23 PM 12/24/99 -0600, you wrote:
>How much can I expect to pay a machine shop to hot tank, magnaflux, and bore
>out a V8 block?
>
>
>
>
>stevee itis.com
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:10:59 -0800
From: Adam McLaughlin jps.net>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

Hi Jason and others,

Thanks for your replies and suggestions. I got over there, and he just gave
it to me. He also told me that I can work on it, and leave it on his property
as long as I wanted.

The truck starts and runs, but the acceleration is off, and the motor sounds
sick. (Like there is water in the oil!!)

Fixing it, and then driving it while the Bronco II gets the 302/T5 swap would
work out really well..

Happy happy, joy, joy!

Adam

Jason & Kathy Kendrick wrote:

> Adam, I'm not a 460 owner, but at a hundred bucks, I'd get over there
> and buy it quick! Too good of a deal to pass up!
> Water in the oil could be a cracked block, cracked head, or a bad head
> gasket. If you buy it, I think the first thing you should do is run a
> compression check on the cylinders. This will tell you what kind of
> shape the clyinders and rings are in, and if you find a cylinder or two
> that are lower than the others, that would be where I'd start looking
> for the leak. Good luck and have a Merry Christmas!
>
> Jason Kendrick
>
> Adam McLaughlin wrote:
> >
> > Hey 460 owners! I could use some of your advice. I have the oppertunity
> > to buy a 1983 F250 460 with 163k+ miles on it. I can get it real cheap,
> > too. The owners want $100 for it..... But it does have a problem. There
> > is water in the oil. The motor runs, and has just passed smog.
> Does anyone have any suggestions as
> > to what the probem could be?
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:38:53 EST
From: WJeff43 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

How much water? Large amounts would point to a leak in your water jacket,
probably a seal or gasket that needs to be replaced. Small amounts can also
come from condensation from water in the air as it makes its way through the
crankcase. I fixed a similar problem on an older engine I had by going to a
higher temperature thermostat. A lot of stop and go, short range driving
will do it too. Bill Jeffreys
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 23:06:07 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 460 Owners Please Help

Free? FREE??? And I thought I got some good deals! If there is much more
than 1/4" of water in the pan, and you find out the motor can be fixed,
it might be wise to replace the bearings and oil pump. Water isn't a
very good lubricant. Anyway, after 150,000+ miles, I'm sure your old
ones might be a bit worn.

Jason

Adam McLaughlin wrote:
>
> Hi Jason and others,
>
I got over there, and he just gave it to me.
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