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perf-list-digest Tuesday, December 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 320



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Perf - 65 falcon
RE: FTE Perf - Early heads late engine
Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....
Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....
FTE Perf - chrysler master cylinder question
RE: FTE Perf - 65 falcon
FTE Perf - 79 f250 master cyl prob...

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:15:00 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - 65 falcon

> just got a 65 falcon with 170 six and 3 spd. manual.

Congrats! :)


> gonna hit the junk
> yard to find 302 engine mounts

Probably have better luck looking for 260/289 mounts, though by 68 they may
have had 302's showing up in them, the mounts will work for a 302 as well as
the 260/289, but expect funny looks if you ask for a 302 for a 65 :)

> , rear end etc. what years of fords will
> a 9'' rear swap in.

I assume you mean as a bolt in ... dunno on this, the big thing to watch is
the width and the spring width ... so you need the distance between the
backing plates, the distance between the spring perches, and the width of
the spring perches ... if you are willing to have one shortened then you can
get them from anything, but if you want it to just bolt in you'll have to do
some searching ... I don't know what has the same width rears as the
Falcon's, you might find a Maverick that is the same width, but I doubt
those ever got the 9" rear ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 11:17:33 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Early heads late engine

> Will early 69-70 windsor heads bolt straight up on a 80's 351 ?

I would guess so, but you have to watch the intake manifold, and the deck
heights are different, so things may get goofy in the valve train and such
... I know people bolt them on to 5.0's and such, so I'm sure they will work
on the 5.8's, just be sure you have a W not an M-block that you're trying to
bolt to ...


>Assuming
> that it is not a high lift cam are the dished pistons and stock reliefs
> enough so that there will be no valve banging?

I would check the push rod lengths too, and then use clay to measure it to
be sure they won't hit ... also watch your compression ratio if you're
trying to drive this on the street ... the stock heads for 69/70 were for a
9.5+:1 compression ratio, then when they changed the deck height, I can't
remember if its in your favor or not, at any rate you might want to figure
out the CC's of the head and the dish on the piston to be sure you won't be
runnin a diesel ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:53:42 -0600
From: "Robert F. Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....

At 10:10 PM 12/11/1999 EST, you wrote:
>Ok after totally rebuilding a C6 in a 79 3/4 ton 4x4... with a tci pro super
>kit and a cheetah full manual shift reverse pattern valve body i have came
>upon one problem. One left over part..... this part is not in the exploded
>views of the parts diagrams and is not listed in the two differnt manuals..
>it is a small plastic valve. anyone have a clue???
>
>Josh,
The plastic piece you describe sounds like the shippong plug used to plug
off the filler tube/dipstick hole.
they are designed to be pushed into the pan when the filler tube is
installed and left there causing no problems. At time of rebuild it can be
left out. Some rebuilders keep them for their trans when rebuilt or for
shipping.

"Beater" Bob
'56 F100 Panel w/460/C6
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 22:34:00 -0500
From: "Brad Smith"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....

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Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....


> Heh...heh...I think I have the answer to your mystery part for you. If
this
> was the first time this tranny has been apart you could be looking at the
> plug which is put in during assembly of the transmission prior to the
> dipstick/tube being installed after the tranny is in the vehicle. When the
> dipstick tube is installed the plug is simply pushed into the tranny and
> stays in the pan until the first service where the technician usually
> removes it and tosses it. I used to work at a Ford dealership and saw many
> of these plugs.
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
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> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE Perf - rebuilding the c6.....
>
>
> > thanks for the response brad, it was one of the first parts i removed
> before
> > the rebuild.. im wokring 72 hours a week and have had limited time to do
> this
> > and has been strung out over a week. it has a fiber brownish color. a
> shaft
> > about 3/16 inch wide and 1 1/2 long. on the end of the shaft it has a
> larger
> > bell looking front with a O ring seal.....
> > let me know.. if you can recognize this.. its driving me nots
>
>
>
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Good Call!! I didn't even think about that... I think there is another
shipping plug in the thing as well, in the output shaft, but it wouldn't end
up internal... I bet that is what it is....

Brad


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:12:53 -0600
From: "john niolon"
Subject: FTE Perf - chrysler master cylinder question

I'm starting to do brakes on my '53 f-100...I'm using a Volare clip and a
Chrysler power booster and master cylinder (that came with the front clip.
I need a Chrysler (i suppose) master cylinder that is set up for dual disk
brakes. the one I have now is for disk/drum. Does anyone know what I
should look for(year/model chrysler product) that will mate up with my 86
Chrysler Power Brake booster and work properly with disk/disk setup?????


also will a late model disc/disc master cylinder have enough bore diameter
(pressure/volume) to work these older disk calipers properly ???


thanks

john


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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:07:01 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - 65 falcon

At 11:15 AM 13:12:99 -0600, William S. Hart wrote:
>> just got a 65 falcon with 170 six and 3 spd. manual.
>
>Congrats! :)
>
>
>> gonna hit the junk
>> yard to find 302 engine mounts
>
>Probably have better luck looking for 260/289 mounts,

True...


>> , rear end etc. what years of fords will
>> a 9'' rear swap in.

>I assume you mean as a bolt in ...

You're looking at spending cubic dollars for a '65-'66 Mustang
9" housing *ONLY*. Between $400 & $600, then filling it, which
means more $$$. As far as I know, these are the only rearends
that will fit as a bolt in. Then you have to consider the fact that
the 9" rears had 5 bolt axels, where as the others had 4 bolt axels.
As does the front hub.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....

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Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:22:52 EST
From: Bogginf350 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - 79 f250 master cyl prob...

Ok, this year i opted for some svo polised aluminum valve covers...... too
bad the dont fit under the brake booster.... anyone know of a smaller bolt-up
booster? or any other quick fixes for this....
thank you,
josh davis
79 f250 4x4
460
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