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To: perf-list-digest Subject: perf-list-digest V2 #300 Reply-To: perf-list Sender: owner-perf-list-digest Errors-To: owner-perf-list-digest Precedence: bulk perf-list-digest Sunday, November 21 1999 Volume 02 : Number 300 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe perf-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Perf - exhaust FTE Perf - Shocks Re: FTE Perf - exhaust Re: FTE Perf - Shocks Re: FTE Perf - Shocks FTE Perf - Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:28:46 -0600 Re: FTE Perf - exhaust ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 07:42:02 EST From: Blkharswed Subject: FTE Perf - exhaust I think i need help and you guys seem to know your stuff. I have a '90 F-150 4X4 with a 300ci (4.9),K&N filter charger, Jacob's Omni Magnun, syntetic oil and electric fan. When I put a Flowmaster cat back system (3" pipes) I seemed to lose low end torque. Is this possible or has my imagination out whack? I would also appreciate advice on how to get shop manuals (prefferably with pictures) to help me out. I don't want to make the same mistake with a 5.0 i'm working on and i don't like that Mazda tranny in there. lot's of people tell where to go but don't give me directions. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 09:06:41 -0600 From: "Joel Thomas" Subject: FTE Perf - Shocks I have dual front shock on my 84 F-150 can I take one shock out to make it ride better? and which one should i take front or rear on the front?? thanks right now it rides real stiff and i have ridden in one shock 4x4's like mine and they ride much better.. any help? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:20:42 EST From: FLR150 Subject: Re: FTE Perf - exhaust On any small Ford motor, they like to have a little backpressure. 3" is pretty big for that motor. I am running an over 300 hp 5.0 and I only have 2.5" pipes. Later Wayne Foy '94 Flareside SC #2 Top Truck == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 07:39:07 -0800 From: Adam McLaughlin Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Shocks What?! One shock made it better? I have a 1988 BII, with 3" JD VR coil lift. I originally didn't have the dual front shock hoops on when I installed the lift, but now that I have a little more money, I spent the $270 to buy the dual mount hoops and shocks. After installing them, my ride did smooth out considerably. I felt that the Warn XDi-9000 hanging off of the front bumper was great leverage to swing the front end around. The dual shock setup made this dissapear.. Good luck, Adam Joel Thomas wrote: > I have dual front shock on my 84 F-150 > can I take one shock out to make it ride better? > and which one should i take front or rear on the front?? > thanks > right now it rides real stiff and i have ridden in one shock 4x4's like mine > and they ride much better.. > any help? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 08:04:44 -0800 From: George Miller Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Shocks How many miles do you have on the existing shocks? If it's more than 25,000, I'd put new shocks on. Most owners would prefer to have the dual shock mount. George Miller Joel Thomas wrote: > > I have dual front shock on my 84 F-150 > can I take one shock out to make it ride better? > and which one should i take front or rear on the front?? > thanks > right now it rides real stiff and i have ridden in one shock 4x4's like mine > and they ride much better.. > any help? > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:37:58 -0600 From: Neal Armstrong Subject: FTE Perf - Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:28:46 -0600 > best idle vacuum is about 14". The problem is the engine runs like > word> and idles "best" at about 40 degrees BTC with the vacuum advance > connected. > Vacuum looks good, and timing is about right, maybe a touch high ... you need to disconnect the advance when you are checking the base timing ... > I'm stumped, but then diagnosis isn't my strong suit! Seems to me to be > a cam problem, but 40 degrees is a long way from the normal 10 or 12, so > wouldn't it have to be WAY out of whack to cause this? Any suggestions?? You probably will have 10 or 12 degrees when you disconnect the advance ... check it that way and lettuce know :) Yes, I understand that when setting the timing to a specific number of degrees BTC, the vacuum advance must be disconnected and plugged, however in this case I'm just trying to find the best idle point, i.e. highest vacuum reading. With v.a. disconnected, it drops to about 30 degrees BTC, which is still so far advanced that, when starting it, the engine is hard to turn over. This difference seems about right, as the Accel literature indicates the v.a. is worth about 7 degrees distributor / 14 degrees engine at 12" (this is adjustable on this unit). Also, the connection to the v.a. is through the "tree" and to the non-ported connection on the carb. Thanks, Neal == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 19:13:19 -0600 From: Neal Armstrong Subject: Re: FTE Perf - exhaust I had the same experience with an '88 F150 4.9L, and there have been posts to this list in the past discussing this subject. Opinions differ, but based on personal experience and the reports of others, it sure seems like the EFI version of the 4.9L needs more backpressure to operate efficiently at the low end than the 5.0L, for example. I think you will have better results with the 5.0L presuming you purchase an "engineered" (cat-back) system from someone like Flowmaster or one of the other major manufacturers, as opposed to having the local muffler shop design one. I think I remember that Flowmaster's web page has a chart showing suggested exhaust system pipe sizes based upon the engine HP. Agree on the Mazda tranny also. I sold mine with 130K on it, and hated that trans the whole ten years I had the truck. Shop manuals are available from Helm, Inc. at www.helminc.com. Pictures are not all that plentiful in Ford shop manuals, but if you check out a good bookstore, you will find a lot of books with illustrations and pictures to suppliment the shop manual. Blkharswed > I think i need help and you guys seem to know your stuff. I have a '90 F-150 > 4X4 with a 300ci (4.9),K&N filter charger, Jacob's Omni Magnun, syntetic oil > and electric fan. When I put a Flowmaster cat back system (3" pipes) I seemed > to lose low end torque. Is this possible or has my imagination out whack? I > would also appreciate advice on how to get shop manuals (prefferably with > pictures) to help me out. I don't want to make the same mistake with a 5.0 > i'm working on and i don't like that Mazda tranny in there. lot's of people > tell where to go but don't give me directions. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of perf-list-digest V2 #300.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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