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From: owner-perf-list-digest
To: perf-list-digest Subject: perf-list-digest V2 #237 Reply-To: perf-list Sender: owner-perf-list-digest Errors-To: owner-perf-list-digest Precedence: bulk perf-list-digest Thursday, September 16 1999 Volume 02 : Number 237 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe perf-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Perf - The sweetest sound FTE Perf - headers FTE Perf - Re: Why we see "Blue". FTE Perf - Re: FTE offroad - twin turbo 460... ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:23:58 EDT From: JUMPINFORD Subject: FTE Perf - The sweetest sound Well Folks we did it. My brother and I finished his inline 6 last night. A project that started in October of last year is finally done. It started as a simple rebuild, and turned into a massive redesign. This inline six now sports some Very cool moods. Bottom end is stock, but the pistons have a swirl cut into the crown to mix the air and fuel more efficiently, head was gone through, and milled .030 to boost the compression. Fuel comes from a Holley 390 feeding through a Clifford 4v manifold that also has a coolant passage under it, to prevent Vapor lock, and dual headers handle the spent fuel quite nicely. Ignition is from an MSD 6A and Blaster coil. Smog pump is gone, EGR is gone, other junk like that is gone. Anyhow, yesterday was the moment of truth. With no plugs in it, we spun the motor over to build up the oil pressure, and also pumped the bad gas out of the line. We did this several times yesterday in between other stuff, so we were sure the engine was well oiled, and we also had a lot of bad gas to pump out. After the gas cleared up, I hooked up the fuel line and spun it once more to fill the fuel bowls. Then the spark plugs went back in. I was outside keeping an eye on all the goodies, and Josh was inside ready to see what happens. I told him, pump it twice, and hit it. If it dont fire right away, we did sumthin wrong. Well folks that starter wasnt engaged for more than 1/4 of a sec before that beast roared to life. And I mean ROAR (still has open headers). It came to life and ran as smooth as anything Ive ever seen. It was an incredible feeling. Especially since this is the first engine Josh has ever built, and my first without someone older and wiser standing right there reminding me what I forgot. I was nervous to say the least. Thanks to EVERYONE on this list for their help with this project, it was of immense help. Yall have a great day, I know I will. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety and Josh Duggan (Spyder2) 84 F-150 "Zoot" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:23:05 -0700 From: Margit Walden Subject: FTE Perf - headers a friend of mine is looking for headers that will fit his 56 ford pickup. it has a 351-c 2-v heads and a volare front end. was wondering how many people make these and what would be the best brand to use. thanks. bronco buster. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:27:45 -0500 From: Phil DeSanto Subject: FTE Perf - Re: Why we see "Blue". > >From: "Gerald Ash" >Subject: Synthetic oils >>>>>>No FoMoCo doesn't have a synthetic oil; they only ask that >the first 3000 to 5000 miles on there engine be with regular >oil to break in the engine, then if you want FoMoCo says it will be fine. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````````````````````` Gerald- that's pretty much the same story I got when we bought a new Grand Cherok$$. Wait until after first oil change. No warranty problems. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------------------- >From: Tom Ewing >Subject: Brand loyalty >It seems to me that "brand loyalty" doesn't exclude the possibility >of criticizing and expecting that brand to do better. >snippage of good stuff....More snipping>> As a Ford fan I'm not threatened by criticisms of Ford. Tom - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------ I've been watching this brand loyalty thing go on now for a week. Nobody will ever settle this one. Some other manufacturers make some good stuff, some other people even buy that stuff ( see above ). But when it comes down to it; for whatever reasons, we LOVE our Fords. I know I'll never change my mind no matter how much or how hard it is to build my 390 in my Galaxie, or how expensive it is to find decent heads for my 351w in my F-100. Heck, I can't even bring myself to put an AC oil filter on em, even though I know they're good ! My mother-in-law is almost 80, and SHE could build a hot 350 bow tie, sittin in her Lazyboy. What kind of challenge is that ? At least with "our brand" we have to think a little. You can't just buy the latest stuff from Sundays Hot Rod TV show. And when your done you have something a little different to show for all your hard work and money. When guys ask why I even fool with Fords, I ask them if we should all just drive identical vehicles. "Is that what you mean?" Chevies are like belly buttons and that other orifice......everybody's got one. (well not everyone) When ever I hear some squirrel say,"why would anybody spend that much on a F&$#+n Ford", it just hardens my opinion that much more. There, I'm all done venting. Now lets go spank some Chevies. Phil ( 63 1/2 Galaxie - 64 F-100 , 66 Mustang, 81 F-100, 79 F-100, oh, and 1 darn Jeep ) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:06:51 -0700 From: George Miller Subject: FTE Perf - Re: FTE offroad - twin turbo 460... This was originally posted to the off-road list. Not only is it very unique, but it contains flow data for the 460 head which compares stock 2.08/1.66 valves with 2.19/1.76s. 2.19 is the '72-74 PI head intake valve size and 1.76 is larger than the CJ/SCJ 1.725 exhaust valve. Flow went from 200cfm to 275cfm with the valve change and what looks like clean-up porting. A 37.5% increase over stock flow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I'm really looking forward to using my PI heads. Page for headwork: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1378/headwork.html Thanks Greg, George Miller Greg Carter wrote: > > Its not a truck, but the engine was originally in an 88 truck. Truly > unique. > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1378/fairymont.html > > Greg Carter > Entrust Technologies > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of perf-list-digest V2 #237 ******************************* +--------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance ----------------+.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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