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perf-list-digest Sunday, August 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 212



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FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800
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Re: FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800
Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150
Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150
FTE Perf - tranny swap
FTE Perf - 3800 eng.????
Re: FTE Perf - 3800 eng.????
FTE Perf - RE:
RE: FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800
FTE Perf - differential gearing
RE: FTE Perf - differential gearing
FTE Perf - FTE in Truckin' magazine
Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150
FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements
Re: FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements
Re: FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements
Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:48:50 -0700
From: Margit Walden
Subject: FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800

looking for used 3800 for 89 lincoln. has to be a runner. can be
complete or short block. hopefully near prescott arizona. bronco
buster...

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:17:03 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: [none]

I have a like new 1978 Ford F150 pickup. The engine is a 300 cu in with a 4
speed transmission. I want to rebuild the engine to make it really strong
and run good.

My question is:
Where do I get HP intake manifolds/carbs?
Exhaust Headers?
Camshafts and components?
Articles on the best combination of parts for this engine.
All help/suggestions/comments will be appreciated.

Is the 4bbl carb/header route worth the time and money? Can you keep the
headers from leaking and burning gaskets?

Gerald Ash

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:17:55 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800

What is a 3800????
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> looking for used 3800 for 89 lincoln. has to be a runner. can be
> complete or short block. hopefully near prescott arizona. bronco
> buster...
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:35:16 EDT
From: SpyderLv81 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150

Clifford has performance parts for the BIG SIX. I have about a grand of
Clifford stuff lying around trying to finish my truck.


Spyder2
incomplete 84 Ford F-150
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:43:13 -0400
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150

Do you happen to have an extra catalog that you can drop in the mail to me?
Which route are you going on the overhaul of your engine? Have you
installed the 4bbl intake system or ridden in a vehicle with that done, and
is it an improvement?
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> Clifford has performance parts for the BIG SIX. I have about a grand of
> Clifford stuff lying around trying to finish my truck.
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> Spyder2
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0500
From: "Joel Thomas"
Subject: FTE Perf - tranny swap

I need some help
I have a T-18 in my 84 F-150 4x4.\
And I can't stand this tranny for driving around town
it seems that there needs to be a gear between 1st and 2nd for starting up
1st is to low and 2nd is to high, and 3rd to 4th is a too big of ratio
difference.
the drivtrain is 351W-T-18-NP208-9in
what is involved in replacing the T-18 witha C-6 if I found one out of
a 4x4 ford same motor??

thanks
Joel Thomas mailto:treefort prodigy.net
1984 F-150, 351W, 9", T-18,
Edelbrock intake,Edelbrock 600cfm,
33" BFG MT's.
Little Rock,Ar





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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:28:42 -0700
From: Margit Walden
Subject: FTE Perf - 3800 eng.????

it is a ford v-6 ... bronco buster...

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:39:10 EDT
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 3800 eng.????

Sorry, no help here. I know some about Ford V-8 and trying to hop up a
300cu in 6 but with no help from the aftermarket folks. I hate just to jump
out here and spend a few grand and not have talked to anyone that has a 4bbl
mainfold, headers, and camshaft modifications.
Good luck on your project.


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it is a ford v-6 ... bronco buster...

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:44:59 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: FTE Perf - RE:

>
> I have a like new 1978 Ford F150 pickup. The engine is a 300 cu


Am I the only one getting this about 15 times ?


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:47:20 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - used fwd lincoln 3800

> What is a 3800????

AKA 3.8L, still used in the 'stangs and such (200hp now too!), ironically
232 cubic inches :) sound familiar from anywhere ?


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 14:40:26 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: FTE Perf - differential gearing

Maybe some of you gear ratio folks could give me a hand. I'm bracket
drag racing a 92Ranger 2.3L for the quarter mile. It has the standard
5speed manual transmission, and a 3:45(limited slip?I think) rear, and
24.5 inch rear tires as measured with the trucks weight on them.
My question is this. If I lower the diff gear ratio to whatever? can I
lower
my ET? Could this lowering be the result of a faster launch? Maybe not
on the current street radials, but I would be willing to change wheels and
tires as needed to radial street drag tires if needed. Or more likely, in
the current configuration I'm completing the quarter mile in 3rd gear. Could
I make that fourth gear?

With the tach light set at about 4800rpm:
1st gear is about 25mph
2nd gear is about 44mph
3rd gear is about 65(I go a little over shift point here and finish at
69mph)
If I lowered my rear gears and could then use four of my five tranny gears
would
I lower my ET? In a recent highway test I wanted to see what 4800rpm would
look like in mph in 4th gear, but my speedo only goes to 85mph. I reached
85mph
at about 4300rpm with the current 3:45 rear gears.
With this data can someone determine if I would be able to improve my
quarter mile ET by changing diff gear ratio? How low can I go before my
1st gear becomes a somewhat useless Granny gear?
I don't use the truck for anything other than drag racing, so towing,
mileage
etc. any dowside in all other directions is pretty meaningless, for this
exercise. I just drive it to the strip once a week and that's about it.
Also according to the New Car window sticker when I bought this truck in
9/92
it listed it as having a Limited Slip Differential. When I do a burn out
test
and look at the tire patch, I see that I'm just burning with the right rear
wheel.
Shouldn't I be spinning both rear wheels, if all is well with the limited
slip?
Or am I misunderstanding what Ford means by their limited slip?
Best time to date is 18.91sec 70.04mph.
Tom Ewing
92Ford Ranger2.3L
58Ford F100 429,C6

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:43:58 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - differential gearing

Your diff is slipping. both should spin. might need new clutch pack?
maybe just some posi additive? don't know.

as for the gearing, lower gearing might help. do you have traction at
launch? or do you bite well. if you got bite, the lower gear will
definatly give better launches. but you will also have another shift to
accomplish at the track end. bad thing? you decide. another possiblity is
that even hitting the next gear, no acceleration will occur. ET may drop
from the better start, but the trap speed may not change much.

overall, if it was me, i'd try a test if i had some extra tires around.
run a smaller dia tire to simulate the gear change in the diff. maybe
could give you an idea of what it can do for you. being that it is bracket
racing though, consistancy is important. will another shift at the end of
the track reduce consistancy?

just a few thoughts, take em for wahtever they are worth to yuo.

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Subject: FTE Perf - differential gearing

Maybe some of you gear ratio folks could give me a hand. I'm bracket
drag racing a 92Ranger 2.3L for the quarter mile.

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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:52:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - FTE in Truckin' magazine

Hi gang! Check out the latest issue of Truckin' magazine
(October 99). Gary Pratt, of "Ford Folio" fame, gave us
a nice tip of the hat in his report on the 21st annual
F100 Supernationals in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. He even
mentioned Don Neighbors and myself by name!

The article is pretty good. There's mention of some of
the new products out there. The whole article makes me
wish I was at the show again.

Ken Payne
Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:46:05 EDT
From: SpyderLv81 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150

I had to go to a store to see the catalog. I don't have one they didn't send
me one. If u go to their web page you can order one for $5. I am going with
the 4bbl intake. I have not rode in a truck with it but it has to be an
improvement over the 1 bbl intake.

Spyder2
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:13:50 -0500
From: phydeaux koyote.com
Subject: FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements

I've got a stock '95 F150, 4.9 L engine, 5spd and 3.55 open diff.

I'm thinking of:
1. K&N filtercharger kit
2. Jacobs Electonics Pro-street ignition system
3. split headers from Clifford performance, performance cat.
converter and 3" cat-back exhaust (probably flowmaster)
4. (eventually) change the open diff to a 3.55 limited slip


Jeff & Melinda Parish

phydeaux koyote.com

"Choose you this day whom ye will serve...
but as for me and my house, we will
serve the Lord."
-Joshua 24:15 (KJV)
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:44:27 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements

In a message dated 8/21/99 8:16:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
phydeaux koyote.com writes:

>

I say go for this one. I installed a Jacobs Mileage Master on my truck. I
am very happy with it. Mileage went from 8.5 to a tad over 10. Throttle
response also improved. It was great, in fact the only thing I didn't like
was the fact that had I ordered through Summit, instead of direct from
Jacobs, I would have saved 100 bucks.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:49:33 -0700
From: Adam McLaughlin
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - looking for suggestions on my proposed improvements

Speaking of Ignitions, has anyone tried out the MSD 6 series on a Ford 2.9? The
multiple spark dealies sound interesting, but I like the feature about RPM
limiting. (Trying to teach a friend how to drive, and she likes to wind it up
there)

Adam

JUMPINFORD AOL.COM wrote:

> In a message dated 8/21/99 8:16:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> phydeaux koyote.com writes:
>
> >
>
> I say go for this one. I installed a Jacobs Mileage Master on my truck. I
> am very happy with it. Mileage went from 8.5 to a tad over 10. Throttle
> response also improved. It was great, in fact the only thing I didn't like
> was the fact that had I ordered through Summit, instead of direct from
> Jacobs, I would have saved 100 bucks.
>
> Darrell Duggan
> 74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 03:14:49 EDT
From: "Gerald Ash"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 84 ford-f150

Thanks, GOOD LUCK, I am following suit and have just put my order in via.
fax.


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I had to go to a store to see the catalog. I don't have one they didn't
send
me one. If u go to their web page you can order one for $5. I am going....


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