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perf-list-digest Tuesday, August 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 193



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In this issue:

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Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance
Re: FTE Perf - FTE Perf- 4.6 performance
FTE Perf - Piston Options for the 300 6
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line (now oil pressure gauge line)
FTE Perf - Fuel problem?
FTE Perf - RE:
Re: FTE Perf - Fuel problem?

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:22:39 +0100
From: robertwerner postmaster.co.uk
Subject: [none]

Well, I just joined the list, so I figured I'd introduce myself. I'm a 16 year
old male living in west-central Michigan. I live near the lake, and there are
some of the best sand dunes in the country for off-roading just 10 miles from
me. I drive a 91 F-150 4x4, and although it *is* a Ford, it's well...a pile of
crap. This could be attributed to the fact that they guy we bought it from
never took care of it, but I really don't care for the engine (300 straight
six). My mom has an 89 Probe, and we've never had a single problem with it.
It's starting to go now, and rust is taking over, but what can you expect for 10
years of snow driving. I'm trying to save a little money to a late 70's or
early 80's Ford truck, and install a 460 in it that I think I can buy. Finally,
I prefer Fords, but I believe I could live with a Chevy if I had to.


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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 10:25:51 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance

>> torque. Fortunately these modulars have a very flat torque curve, so once
>> revved up a bit (2000+) it will have about the same amount of torque
>> without the peakiness that you get from some high powered motors...
>
>But us off-road guys (I know.. wrong list) need the torque from idle on
>up.

Yeah, I know you like your low speeds and such, lots of people on the
'stang groups will tell you your first mod should be GEARS ... and it
usually typed in capital letters so that you understand that will put the
motor where it wants to be ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 10:29:28 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - FTE Perf- 4.6 performance

>I guess I am looking to get more torque out of my 4.6
>on the low AND a bit more at the top or at least
>maintain what I have there. (Pulling trailers - hard
>to start and maintain speed.)
>
Oh so you want your cake, and to eat it too (of course you do, who wouldn't
?) Anyway I wouldn't worry about losing the top end, most of the mods
available are actually for topside mostly ... you'll have to hunt around
for low end help though ... possibly some cleaning up on the intake might
get you some ( a dremmel and patience will be the cheapest here ) ... not
real sure what works well on the trucks yet ...

>How much would a Mass Air system from a Mustang
>help/hurt? kill my gas milage? I currently can
>consistently get between 13 and 17...
>
I wouldn't think they would be any different ... as far as components go
... the chips might be ... one thing I do remember they said helped out a
lot was a timing adjuster, they're less than a hundred bucks, available
from steeda and places like that, lets you set your timing to whatever you
want it to be, seems like 14.5 or so is the best setting and really ups
that low end torque, though I haven't seen any dyno graphs comparing them,
they all said the sotp meter said it was great.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:52:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Neal De Pape
Subject: FTE Perf - Piston Options for the 300 6

I have been following the various posts on performance
upgrades for the 300 6 with great interest. Because
my cam gear just failed on my truck causing the # 4
piston to get introduced to the valves, I am looking
at a possible rebuild.

I have a 1977 300 6 cylinder out of an F-150. I would
like to raise the compression to 9:1. Does anyone
know whether a flat top piston would be near this in
my engine?

Also what brands of pistons would you recommend for
the 300? I have heard Badger mentioned and Keith
Black.

TIA

Neal

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:06:03 -0700
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line (now oil pressure gauge line)

>
> I purchased an AutoMeter braided stainless line from the local speed
> shop. It's AutoMeter #3327, 3' long and assembled with everything needed
> for installation from engine to gauge. There are ascending numbers in
> that series for longer lengths. $43, including tax. When I choked, the
> parts guy said look up the components in Summit's Catalog. Close to $30,
> plus UPS and Nevada Sales Tax. When I removed the nylon tubing from my
> original installation, it was so brittle that the price seemed
> reasonable.
>
From all of the comments, it sounds like the way to go. I'll apply my
dad's rule about avoiding cheap hotels: A year from now, I won't miss the money
but I'll always remember a bad night's sleep. And I'll definitely never forget
a broken oil line.

- -- Don

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Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:57:14 -0400
From: Brett ITT 41
Subject: FTE Perf - Fuel problem?

Well I got a chance to run my ranger at a Legends car event this week.
It was a lot of fun except for the extremely poor performance my truck
gave. The problem was coming out of the corners about half way down the
straight it would lose power then pick back up just as I was coasting
into the next corner. I had 10 gals. in my 15 gal. fuel cell so I don't
think it was starving. It is an 89 2.3 with multiport f.i. I have the
stock regulator on the fuel rail with a mallory 100psi elec. fuel pump
set at 60 psi. I believe the stock regulator is set at 40 psi. the cause
of this is driving me nuts. Any insight would help.

Brett ITT 41
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:49:52 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: FTE Perf - RE:

Welcome to the list. I hope you get much enjoyment from it. There are many
friendly and knowledgeable people. Feel free to ask any questions you want.
There is another list in the same web page that caters specifically to the
family of trucks your 91 belongs to but if yours is beyond help and your
seriously considering a 70's model then stick around, you may find someone
on the list near you wanting to sell one. Two minor points of ettiquete:
please put something in the subject line. If it is relevant so much the
beter. Secondly, we all know there are other makes of vehicles out there
and it is rumored that some of us might own some of those other makes, but
no one here would ever admit it. And sinc the "C" word is considered an
obscinity here it is usually spelled c*^ y. ;0).

Hope you stick around and have a bunch of fun!!

Tom H.

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> year
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:34:56 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Fuel problem?

Have you done the basics? Check the fuel lines and fittings for
obstructions that may be slowing down the flow. Have you replaced
the fuel filter--under the drivers door is it? Or have you totally
replumbed
from the stock fuel lines? Does the fuel tank have baffles that prevent
the gas from flowing away from the pickup during the cornering?
If you're doing an oval and always turning Left? Right? on which side
is the fuel pickup located?
Tom
92Ranger 2.3L 18.91sec.
58F100 429/C6
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From: Brett ITT 41
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, August 02, 1999 6:32 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - Fuel problem?


>Well I got a chance to run my ranger at a Legends car event this week.
>It was a lot of fun except for the extremely poor performance my truck
>gave. The problem was coming out of the corners about half way down the
>straight it would lose power then pick back up just as I was coasting
>into the next corner. I had 10 gals. in my 15 gal. fuel cell so I don't
>think it was starving. It is an 89 2.3 with multiport f.i. I have the
>stock regulator on the fuel rail with a mallory 100psi elec. fuel pump
>set at 60 psi. I believe the stock regulator is set at 40 psi. the cause
>of this is driving me nuts. Any insight would help.
>
> Brett ITT 41
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