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perf-list-digest Sunday, August 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 191



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - Thermostats
Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line (now oil pressure gauge line)
FTE Perf - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:41:28 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Thermostats

George Miller wrote:
>
> Tim Turner wrote:
> >
> > George Miller wrote:

> What is a CTS?
>

Coolant Temperature Sensor; on computerized vehicles and has a good
effect on the amount of fuel delivered, since you have no computerized
carb or FI the point is moot. :-)

Tim
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:52:54 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance

William S Hart wrote:
>

> torque. Fortunately these modulars have a very flat torque curve, so once
> revved up a bit (2000+) it will have about the same amount of torque
> without the peakiness that you get from some high powered motors...

But us off-road guys (I know.. wrong list) need the torque from idle on
up. I spent my 'Fun time' today between 1100 and 2500 RPM; thank
goodness for decent torque at low speed im my worn out 2.8. 3/4
throttle sometimes in 3rd/Lo just to maintain speed at 1200 rpm.. (12
MPH?) the sand was TOUGH today.

Tim
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:01:56 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line

Donald Paauw wrote:
>

>
> Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil pressure guage because
> I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the exhaust. Would the
> nylon be better, with careful routing?

Dont get me started on Nylon tubing! I ruined a good pair of new boots
on the way home from the nights festivities when the line split at the
gauge... One brown boot and one black one. If you use it make SURE
it's away from the exhaust and dont have any sharp bends anywhere, also
retighten the compression fittings after a week or two to avoid the
'black boot syndrome'.

Tim
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:34:54 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line (now oil pressure gauge line)

I purchased an AutoMeter braided stainless line from the local speed
shop. It's AutoMeter #3327, 3' long and assembled with everything needed
for installation from engine to gauge. There are ascending numbers in
that series for longer lengths. $43, including tax. When I choked, the
parts guy said look up the components in Summit's Catalog. Close to $30,
plus UPS and Nevada Sales Tax. When I removed the nylon tubing from my
original installation, it was so brittle that the price seemed
reasonable.

George Miller wrote:
>
> Summit should have all you'll need. Other than engine oil lines, I have
> no experience with it. I'm going to measure the length I need, take the
> tee fitting on the block (I kept my original factory gauge) and the
> compression fitting from the gauge to the local speed shop. They know
> that stuff.
>
> George Miller
>
> Donald Paauw wrote:
> >
> > OK, I'm convinced. Now, does braided stainless require special connectors
> > or can I use it in the compression joint that came with the guage? Also,
> > is it easily available, or will I need to get some catalogs?
> >
> > -- Don
> >
> > > Donald Paauw wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sensible solution.. Just want to point out to *NOT* use copper for
> > > > > lines; it will over time 'work harden' and crack.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil pressure guage because
> > > > I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the exhaust. Would the
> > > > nylon be better, with careful routing?
> > >
> > > This was discussed on another list, actually beaten into the ground with
> > > experience, and the concensus of probably 40 posts was to use braided
> > > stainless.
> > >
> > > Lots of satisfactory testimony for the nylon and also many horror
> > > stories about broken nylon lines shooting 200 degree oil on legs. Most
> > > of the failures were from coming off at the gauge. It's not a true
> > > compression joint. Don't use it if your oil pressure is above 80psi or
> > > the line is exposed to header heat. Gets brittle and cracks. I've used
> > > one on a 460 for over ten years with no replacement. The sender end is
> > > at the back of the block and goes right into the engine compartment, so
> > > that's probably the reason I've been fortunate.
> > >
> > > All say no on the copper for the reasons already mentioned.
> > >
> > > Converting to braided stainlees is high on my to do list. There were
> > > some nasty experiences with broken nylon lines.
> > >
> > > George Miller
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:05:11 EDT
From: ACMERCG AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - Alt rebuild parts Hi-po


Anyone know where I could get a high amp rebuild kit the Alt in my truck?
I'd be looking to go min. 150amps, but I'd like to go to 180...

Later...

Joe
Lost in Jersey
92 F-150 4x4 302/AOD
K&N, Dynomax cat back
BFG MT 33x12.50x15
Super cool twin CB antennas
100k and still goin....
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