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perf-list-digest Saturday, July 31 1999 Volume 02 : Number 190



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance
Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line
FTE Perf - wanted used cowl hood
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line
Re: FTE Perf - fuel line
Re: FTE Perf - 300 Cams

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:17:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Reinke
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance

Hey!

Does anyone on the list have experience with
performance parts on the 4.6? And I seem to hit a
road block in finding a K&N to replace the factory air
box or are the counter guys just smucks?

Thanks,
Ryan

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:45:39 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re: FTE Perf- 4.6 performance

>Does anyone on the list have experience with
>performance parts on the 4.6?

A little, but mostly in 'stang applications. Steeda (www.steeda.com) and
some others (sean hyland (www.seanhylandmotorsport.com) expensive usually,
but has lots of stuff) ... have branched into the truck side of things as
well as the 'stang side ... you can learn lots about what works for the 4.6
from the 'stang boards, but remember they're just trying to show off their
dyno runs and get lots of HP, most of them don't even mention their peak
torque. Fortunately these modulars have a very flat torque curve, so once
revved up a bit (2000+) it will have about the same amount of torque
without the peakiness that you get from some high powered motors...


>And I seem to hit a
>road block in finding a K&N to replace the factory air
>box or are the counter guys just smucks?
>

You want the performace pak ? where it replaces the air box ? Hmm...don't
know that I've seen them listed, but you should be able to find part
numbers for such a thing from Steeda I would think ... or email k&n
directly and see if they have one yet ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line

braided stainless is what I would use.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87

- --- Donald Paauw wrote:
> >
> > Sensible solution.. Just want to point out to
> *NOT* use copper for
> > lines; it will over time 'work harden' and crack.
>
> >
> > Tim
>
> Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil
> pressure guage because
> I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the
> exhaust. Would the
> nylon be better, with careful routing?
>
> -- Don
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:15:10 EDT
From: MrVFR AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - wanted used cowl hood

Anyone want to sell a cervini hood
Dennis
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:44:12 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line

Donald Paauw wrote:
>
> >
> > Sensible solution.. Just want to point out to *NOT* use copper for
> > lines; it will over time 'work harden' and crack.
> >
> > Tim
>
> Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil pressure guage because
> I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the exhaust. Would the
> nylon be better, with careful routing?

This was discussed on another list, actually beaten into the ground with
experience, and the concensus of probably 40 posts was to use braided
stainless.

Lots of satisfactory testimony for the nylon and also many horror
stories about broken nylon lines shooting 200 degree oil on legs. Most
of the failures were from coming off at the gauge. It's not a true
compression joint. Don't use it if your oil pressure is above 80psi or
the line is exposed to header heat. Gets brittle and cracks. I've used
one on a 460 for over ten years with no replacement. The sender end is
at the back of the block and goes right into the engine compartment, so
that's probably the reason I've been fortunate.

All say no on the copper for the reasons already mentioned.

Converting to braided stainlees is high on my to do list. There were
some nasty experiences with broken nylon lines.

George Miller
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:22:44 -0700
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line

OK, I'm convinced. Now, does braided stainless require special connectors
or can I use it in the compression joint that came with the guage? Also,
is it easily available, or will I need to get some catalogs?

- -- Don




> Donald Paauw wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Sensible solution.. Just want to point out to *NOT* use copper for
> > > lines; it will over time 'work harden' and crack.
> > >
> > > Tim
> >
> > Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil pressure guage because
> > I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the exhaust. Would the
> > nylon be better, with careful routing?
>
> This was discussed on another list, actually beaten into the ground with
> experience, and the concensus of probably 40 posts was to use braided
> stainless.
>
> Lots of satisfactory testimony for the nylon and also many horror
> stories about broken nylon lines shooting 200 degree oil on legs. Most
> of the failures were from coming off at the gauge. It's not a true
> compression joint. Don't use it if your oil pressure is above 80psi or
> the line is exposed to header heat. Gets brittle and cracks. I've used
> one on a 460 for over ten years with no replacement. The sender end is
> at the back of the block and goes right into the engine compartment, so
> that's probably the reason I've been fortunate.
>
> All say no on the copper for the reasons already mentioned.
>
> Converting to braided stainlees is high on my to do list. There were
> some nasty experiences with broken nylon lines.
>
> George Miller
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>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:39:21 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - fuel line

Summit should have all you'll need. Other than engine oil lines, I have
no experience with it. I'm going to measure the length I need, take the
tee fitting on the block (I kept my original factory gauge) and the
compression fitting from the gauge to the local speed shop. They know
that stuff.

George Miller

Donald Paauw wrote:
>
> OK, I'm convinced. Now, does braided stainless require special connectors
> or can I use it in the compression joint that came with the guage? Also,
> is it easily available, or will I need to get some catalogs?
>
> -- Don
>
> > Donald Paauw wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sensible solution.. Just want to point out to *NOT* use copper for
> > > > lines; it will over time 'work harden' and crack.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > >
> > > Hmm. I was going to use copper tubing for my oil pressure guage because
> > > I was worried about the nylon tubing being near the exhaust. Would the
> > > nylon be better, with careful routing?
> >
> > This was discussed on another list, actually beaten into the ground with
> > experience, and the concensus of probably 40 posts was to use braided
> > stainless.
> >
> > Lots of satisfactory testimony for the nylon and also many horror
> > stories about broken nylon lines shooting 200 degree oil on legs. Most
> > of the failures were from coming off at the gauge. It's not a true
> > compression joint. Don't use it if your oil pressure is above 80psi or
> > the line is exposed to header heat. Gets brittle and cracks. I've used
> > one on a 460 for over ten years with no replacement. The sender end is
> > at the back of the block and goes right into the engine compartment, so
> > that's probably the reason I've been fortunate.
> >
> > All say no on the copper for the reasons already mentioned.
> >
> > Converting to braided stainlees is high on my to do list. There were
> > some nasty experiences with broken nylon lines.
> >
> > George Miller
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> >
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:40:36 EDT
From: SpyderLv81 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 300 Cams

Look at Clifford stuff also. They make stuff just for the 4 and 6 cylinder
engines. I bought a cam, intake manifold, and headers from them. Just to
let you know their headers are split for dual exhaust which is nice if you
want to open up the engine. I can't say if they help or not because I am
still building the engine.....


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