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perf-list-digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 187



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Edelbrock and old throttle linkage
FTE Perf - NEW 460!--but no power?
Re: FTE Perf - NEW 460!--but no power?
FTE Perf - Poppet valve
Re: FTE Perf - Edelbrock and old throttle linkage
Re: FTE Perf - Poppet valve
Re: FTE Perf - Thermostats

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:36:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill
Subject: FTE Perf - Edelbrock and old throttle linkage

Quick question: Anyone hooked up an Edelbrock (or Carter) to the old
straight rod throttle linkage that comes on older trucks like my '64?
Edelbrocks Ford linkage kit states for '68 and newer (I assume that is
when the switched to cables). I am not concerned about the kickdown
linkage for the C4..

I am not above engineering an adaptor, but would be easier if someone
has done it before (short of changing to a cable) and has some
pointers. I haven't bought an Edelbrock yet, just weighing my options.

Thanks,

Bill in Texas
1964 F100 Shortbox (351W/C4)
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:34:14 PDT
From: "Jeremy Taylor"
Subject: FTE Perf - NEW 460!--but no power?

I just finished overhauling the 460 (FI) in my 88 F-250. (wow that's a big
engine to pull!) Thanks to all the individuals who helped me along the way.
I'm trying to take care of all the loose ends before I take my truck to
the Silver Lake Sand Dunes this weekend. The biggest problem is that I'm
not getting full throttle. The butterfly only opens 1/4 of the way when the
pedal is to the floor. I never checked it before the rebuild but it is
supposed to open all the way, right? What could cause this? Routing of the
cable? I can move it open all the way by hand but not with the pedal.
Thanx in advance for all the help you guys can offer.

Jeremy
88 F-250
460,C-6,4.10's


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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:12:31 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - NEW 460!--but no power?

>the Silver Lake Sand Dunes this weekend. The biggest problem is that I'm
>not getting full throttle. The butterfly only opens 1/4 of the way when the
>pedal is to the floor. I never checked it before the rebuild but it is
>supposed to open all the way, right? What could cause this? Routing of the
>cable? I can move it open all the way by hand but not with the pedal.
>Thanx in advance for all the help you guys can offer.
>
Sounds like maybe something slipped either where the cable attaches to the
throttlebody(should be a snap thing isn't it ?) or maybe where the pedal
attaches, is there a way the sheathing got moved, it sounds like the cover
is too long all of a sudden ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:45:53 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Poppet valve

George Miller writes: >>This is the most comprehensive and informative site
I've found on
performance and stock cooling systems. They recommend drilling 3 - 3/16"
holes in the poppet valve for maximum efficiency, especially when using
hi-volume water pumps.

I ask !! ! ! ! What is a "poppet valve" ???????? Are they referring to the
T'stat???

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:11:23 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Edelbrock and old throttle linkage

Bill wrote:

> Quick question: Anyone hooked up an Edelbrock (or Carter) to the old
> straight rod throttle linkage that comes on older trucks like my '64?
> Edelbrocks Ford linkage kit states for '68 and newer (I assume that is
> when the switched to cables). I am not concerned about the kickdown
> linkage for the C4..
>
> I am not above engineering an adaptor, but would be easier if someone
> has done it before (short of changing to a cable) and has some
> pointers. I haven't bought an Edelbrock yet, just weighing my options.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill in Texas
> 1964 F100 Shortbox (351W/C4)

Did so in my 63. The carb and the rod lined up really well, only had to
make a few small new bends in the rod. if your current rod is working on
the 351W it should be real close with the Edelbrock. A new rod could also
be made if needed. It's just a small bend in each end. I was going to
replace mine with a rod and two heim joints one of these days.

Laters


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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4


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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:25:52 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Poppet valve

am14 daimlerchrysler.com wrote:
>
> George Miller writes: >>This is the most comprehensive and informative site
> I've found on
> performance and stock cooling systems. They recommend drilling 3 - 3/16"
> holes in the poppet valve for maximum efficiency, especially when using
> hi-volume water pumps.
>
> I ask !! ! ! ! What is a "poppet valve" ???????? Are they referring to the
> T'stat???

Yes. I didn't know what it was until i read the info. Great site.

George miller
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:12:51 -0500
From: Buck Shoff
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Thermostats

George Miller wrote:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.stewartcomponents.com/techtip3.htm
>
> This is the most comprehensive and informative site I've found on
> performance and stock cooling systems. They recommend drilling 3 - 3/16"
> holes in the poppet valve for maximum efficiency, especially when using
> hi-volume water pumps. Anybody out there have any experience with that?


I tried that once. It was on a box stock 89 Ranger with a 2.9. I was
trying to stabilize a fluctuating thermostat, not trying to increase
cooling capacity. One 1/8" hole solved the fluctuation problem
completely. However the engine never did come up to operating
temperature on a 30-40 degree day. That probably wouldn't be a problem
around here today, though.

If the rest of the cooling system was clean and tight, I think it will
run somewhat cooler. Why don't you try it? T-stats are cheap and easy
to change. If you do try it, I would like to know the results. Buck
Shoff
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