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perf-list-digest Tuesday, July 27 1999 Volume 02 : Number 186



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused
Re: FTE Perf - another problem
Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused
Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused
Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused
FTE Perf - Thermostats

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:28:11 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused

>Both checked out , R&Rd the relay (I had a spare), changed the battery cable
>, ensured
>there was no short to ground on the starter and *POOF* Smoked the damn
>thing again on the test round. Now Im really lost.
>

This may sound really dumb, but have you checked the charge on the battery
? On mom's old 'stang, when the battery gets lowish it will sometimes do
this, even after the key is off and everything. We've replaced soleniods
and everything, but it still does it ... just gotta keep a fully charged
battery.

Also, sometimes a solenoid (relay, whatever you feel like callin the darned
thing today), can be "unstuck" with a well placed wrench, just thwap
(technical term) the body of the solenoid once and it may unstick enough to
shut the motor off ... gotta be quick about it though.

Also the smoking and such, have you checked the battery cables to be sure
theyr'e not cracked/coroded ? Sounds like maybe they are causing the
battery to "seem" low.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:28:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - another problem

- --- Joel Thomas wrote:
> thanks to everyone that helped me with my power
> prblem between 3rd and 4th
> shifts, and the problem was my timing it was set at
> 5 BTDC and it is

Glad to hear you nailed it down. As for ignition...
I don't know anything about your TFI IV setup but the
Duraspark II setup works very well and you can use the
distributor to trigger an MSD setup later if that's
what you want to do. It took me about 2 hours to hook
it all up, including distributor install. I used a
wiring diagram out of a 1970 Motor's Manual. It
really is a piece of cake.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:36:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused

> Hopped in it and the drivers window motor wont drive
> the window in either
> direction but I can move it by hand...........simple
> motor change I know but
> the motor isnt installed in a way for easy change.
> Any Suggestions?

My passenger window rolls down by itself and I don't
have a driver's side window. I know, it's a POS but
it's mine and it's paid for...

> Now for the fried and confused, after stopping a few
> places jump back in to
> go home, crank it over and the starter continues to
> run (figured something

The starter solenoid stuck in the on position. Same
thing happened to me and I hit it with a pipe and it
was fine until I got home and changed it. It's a 6$
part but you probably smoked the battery cable and at
least shortened the life of the starter in the
process. My battery cable melted all its insulation
off the entire length of the cable.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:14:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused

- --- LS wrote:
> Both checked out , R&Rd the relay (I had a spare),
> changed the battery cable
> , ensured
> there was no short to ground on the starter and
> *POOF* Smoked the damn
> thing again on the test round. Now Im really lost.

Ok. So let's work it through. The starter
relay/switch needs a high signal on the 'I' terminal
to engage the starter. It will continue to engage the
starter until the high signal is removed or it is
unstuck.

So I guess the next thing I would do is measure what
voltage you have at that 'I' terminal under the
different conditions it sees:
key off, motor off
key run, motor off
key start, motor cranking
key run, motor running
key off, motor ??

I think you are going to find that you have voltage to
the 'I' terminal in the last case of 'key off,
motor??'

It sounds like your switch may be sticking.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Fried and confused

> >Lance S
> >Dead 87 Bronco XLT 5.0
>
> Ignition switch? On the starter switch, check to see
> if you're getting 12V
> at the 'S' terminal, even with the key off. Double

OOOOPPSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
It's the S terminal!!!! I said the 'I' terminal...
sorry!
Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:51:32 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: FTE Perf - Thermostats

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.stewartcomponents.com/techtip3.htm

This is the most comprehensive and informative site I've found on
performance and stock cooling systems. They recommend drilling 3 - 3/16"
holes in the poppet valve for maximum efficiency, especially when using
hi-volume water pumps. Anybody out there have any experience with that?

George Miller
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