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perf-list-digest Thursday, July 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 174



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - re: cam
RE: FTE Perf - cam
FTE Perf - Re; M pistons
FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox
Re: FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox
Re: FTE Perf - Re; M pistons
RE: FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:22:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - re: cam

Hey David,
How did you set up the TV cable on the AOD? I have
been considering the swap from the C4 to AOD and would
like to know if there were any pitfalls you ran into.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87

- --- David Claflin wrote:
> Shane,
> I had the C-4 with a 2.79 gear, it would turn about
> 1900 60 mph, I don't
> know how much the Maverick weighed but I think they
> are around 3200-3400
> lbs. I now have that same cam in a 351W w/ AOD in my

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:25:33 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - cam

Just a little comment on the Edelbrock water pump. I run one on my 429 and
it is great. I ran a flow cooler before and I think the Edelbrock out
performs it. I noticed immediate results with lower temps as soon as I put
it on.

Dennis
55F100

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> From: shane san miguel[SMTP:v8pinto yahoo.com]
> Reply To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
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> Subject: Re: FTE Perf - cam
>
> That sure is true, the Edelbrock stuff works together
> and with no surprises... I'm still not sold on their
> water pump though.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what's a Maverick weigh? My
> truck comes in at a 'Rubenesque' 3,650 with 1/2 tank
> of gas and no driver or McDonald's wrappers under the
> seat.
>
> I'd like the truck to run solid 14's so I need to cut
> about a good .5 seconds off it. I've made a few mods
> lately and I think I can get a 15.3 (no time slips yet
> but soon...) out of her if the tranny holds (it's
> slipping a little in second). I'm looking for about a
> 14.7 91 ride. Think the right cam will do that?
>
> Shane
> 55 F100 5.0
> 15.51 87
>
> Shane
> 55 F100 5.0
> 15.51 87
>
> > performer
> > >for less money. Why is everything with the
> > Edelbrock
> > >name on it expensive?????? Oh yeah, my motor is a
> > >non-roller motor.
> > >
> > answer for the expensive part: it works. When you
> > get the Edelbrock piece
> > you can be pretty sure its going to do what it says
> > it does, not like some
> > of the fly by night companies that show up.
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:04:58 -0500
From: "Douglas McLaughlin"
Subject: FTE Perf - Re; M pistons

Thanks for the help, you confirmed my suspicions that 351C pistons would fit
but as you pointed out they do have smaller pins. Does the 400 have the same
size pins? Would the 351C flat tops work with the 400 crank? My 351M is a
1976, do I need a 400 crank of the same year? If not, what was a good year
for the 400?

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:53:17 -0400
From: "J Cope"
Subject: FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox

I drive an '88 BII, and I've heard talk about drilling holes in the airbox,
and even cutting the sides out of it. What about completely removing it and
just clamping the air filter onto the end of the intake hose?

JC
'88 BII XLT
235/70R15s
K&N
10k tow hooks
40ch CB

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:17:16 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox

>I drive an '88 BII, and I've heard talk about drilling holes in the airbox,
>and even cutting the sides out of it. What about completely removing it and
>just clamping the air filter onto the end of the intake hose?
>
There are sometimes issues with that in that you will have to deal with
things like fan wash and hot air from the motor.

The hot air isn't such a big deal, you just lose a touch of power on the
low end, it may be made up for on the top end by allowing more air in, but
how long do you spend on the top side of the rev band on a BII ?

The fan wash can suck massive amounts of power, if you expose the air
filter to the fan spinning around (not actually putting it on the fan, but
near it) it can actually suck air OUT of the filter, which makes things run
a bit rich and the harder it is to get air into the motor, the less power
you will make ...

Hope this helps a little ... I see K&N has offered some open kits with
shields on them ... a favorite of mustang guys is to put it in the fender,
keeps cool air in there and out of the fan wash ... just some black pvc
style pipe with clamps on it, or rubber rings ....

mustangworld has some how to's that show what they've done on the 'stang
side of things, some of them MIGHT work fo rthe other FI Ford's...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:58:01 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re; M pistons

The 351C pistons would ONLY work with the 400 crank. The wrist pins are the
same size for both the 351M and the 400. The 351M I'm rebuilding into a 400
is a 76 also but it was forged at the Cleveland plant so there shouldn't be
a cracking problem. I don't know what year the 400 crank I got is. You
shouldn't have any problems interchanging with any year 400 crank. I
haven't seen any bad press on M cranks, just pre 77 Michigan blocks.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- -----Original Message-----
From: Douglas McLaughlin
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 1:16 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - Re; M pistons


>Thanks for the help, you confirmed my suspicions that 351C pistons would
fit
>but as you pointed out they do have smaller pins. Does the 400 have the
same
>size pins? Would the 351C flat tops work with the 400 crank? My 351M is a
>1976, do I need a 400 crank of the same year? If not, what was a good year
>for the 400?



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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:55:28 -0400
From: "J Cope"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - '88 BII Airbox

I got bored this afternoon and went ahead and removed the airbox. I figured
it wouldn't hurt anything too bad, and I made sure I could put it back on
easily if I needed to. I used a length of thin (14g) wire to secure the
filter to the top of the airbox, and I completely removed the rest. I can't
confirm or deny any change in power, but it sounds a lot better! It's got a
much hardier grumble and is slightly louder than before.
If anyone knows if I'm doing any damage, let me know. Thanks!

JC

'88 BII XLT
235/70R15s
K&N
10k tow hooks
40ch CB
Removed airbox

>>I drive an '88 BII, and I've heard talk about drilling holes in the
airbox,
>>and even cutting the sides out of it. What about completely removing it
and
>>just clamping the air filter onto the end of the intake hose?
>>
>>JC

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