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perf-list-digest Wednesday, July 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 173



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - T-18
Re: FTE Perf - M pistons
FTE Perf - T18 Tranny and 9" rear
[none]
FTE Perf - New Book
FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland
Re: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland
Re: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland
FTE Perf - Maverick Weight....
Re: FTE Perf - Maverick Weight....
FTE Perf - re: cam

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:09:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - T-18

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

I had one of those behind a 300 I6 in a 65 F100 camper
special. One of the best trucks I've ever owned.
Lot's of stories about that truck....

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87

- --- Danger wrote:
> > Is the T-18 the Granny Gear 4 spd?
> >
> > Shane
> ............
>
> The T-18 in my 69 F250 has a non-synchronized
> first gear that would be
> considered a granny because a crippled person on
> crutches could outrun you.
>
>
> Danger
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:37:49 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - M pistons

You won't find any hypereuts for the 351M/400 at least not that I've ever
found. I'm in the middle of doing the same buildup myself so I'm familiar
with the scarcity of parts. PAW does offer some flat top forged for the 351M
but if you put in a 400 crank they won't work. There's no problem putting in
a 400 crank just make sure you have the right pistons. The rods are the
same. As far as bumping the c.r. you have a few choices. Custom forged
pistons will run you $600-$800 with pins & rings, put in flat top 351C
pistons and have the rods bushed for the smaller wrist pins, put in stock
hypereuts for the 400 and mill the block & heads to get to the c.r. you
need.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Douglas McLaughlin
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:03 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - M pistons


>I have a 76 351M that I plan to have bored .030 over and I want some
>hypereutectic pistons to boost comp. to about 9.5:1. I just got the motor
>and haven't cc'd the heads yet but I have been looking through some parts
>catalogs and can't find much for the M. There are plenty of different
>pistons for Clevelands and Windsors but not the M. I was told the M is a
>heavy motor but I am putting it into a 4x4 with a 56 f100 body so a heavy
>motor isn't a big concern. I was also wondering how to put a 400 crank into
>it to give it more stroke? I think we all should email all the parts
>companies (PAW,Summit,Jegs.etc) and tell them they need a 4x4 section.



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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:08:59 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE Perf - T18 Tranny and 9" rear

Joel Thomas writes: >> is the T-18 in my 84 f-150 4x4 a strong tranny??

Yes!

>>also is the 9in rear a strong rear end??

Yes!!

>>thank you?

You're welcome.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:15:33 -0400
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: [none]

Shane writes: >>Is the T-18 the Granny Gear 4 spd?

Yes. One of several offered by Ford over the years.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:22:56 -0700
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: FTE Perf - New Book

I picked up a new reference book titled "High Performance Ford Engine Parts
Interchange" by George Reid it covers 221 to 460 CID. So far it seems to
have a lot of good information and sources for parts. It also was just
published this year so it should be fairly current.

Anyway I'll be reading all the small block chapters over the next few days.

Does anyone know a good reference for nine inch rear-ends? I want to
replace what I have with a limited slip or posi and am hoping if armed with
more documentation I can find one in a yard for my late model nine inch.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:33:39 -0600
From: Steve Tymchyshyn
Subject: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland

I need some help identifying an engine. I have stubled across a sweetheart
of a deal if the seller is tellin the truth! The seller claims that the
engine in question is a 351 Cleveland. He bought the engine with a C6 auto
from a speed shop that went out of business for a 68 mustang. The engine
was rebuilt for a customer that never picked it up, it never went into the
mustang b/c it didn't fit properly and the seller did not want to fuss with
it. Therefore, it has no miles on the pair.

The seller wants $300cdn bucks for both, but I don't want it unless it is a
Cleveland. I don't care what is inside of it, I'd probably open it up
anyway.

Does anybody know what casting numbers I should be looking for, and where
they are. Or does anybody have a suggestion that will confirm it is what it
is supposed to be.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Steve Tymchyshyn





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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:06:52 PDT
From: "Roger Lane"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland

On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:33:39 -0600, Steve Tymchyshyn wrote:

>
> I need some help identifying an engine. I have stubled across a
sweetheart
> of a deal if the seller is tellin the truth! The seller claims that the
> engine in question is a 351 Cleveland. He bought the engine with a C6
auto
> from a speed shop that went out of business for a 68 mustang. The engine
> was rebuilt for a customer that never picked it up, it never went into
the
> mustang b/c it didn't fit properly and the seller did not want to fuss
with
> it. Therefore, it has no miles on the pair.
>
> The seller wants $300cdn bucks for both, but I don't want it unless it is
a
> Cleveland. I don't care what is inside of it, I'd probably open it up
> anyway.
>
> Does anybody know what casting numbers I should be looking for, and where
> they are. Or does anybody have a suggestion that will confirm it is what
it
> is supposed to be.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Steve Tymchyshyn
>
>
>
>
>
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Try this link:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/cleveland.html
I think it might be what you are looking for.

Roger Lane

"Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you
with experience."




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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:19:16 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland

Casting #s for the Cleveland blocks are:

D0AZ-D
D0AE-J,G
D2AE-CA


Casting #s should be under the rear of the right bank of cylinders.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Steve Tymchyshyn
To: 'perf-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 11:37 AM
Subject: FTE Perf - Identifying a 351 Cleveland



>Does anybody know what casting numbers I should be looking for, and where
>they are. Or does anybody have a suggestion that will confirm it is what
it
>is supposed to be.
>


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:12:46 -0700
From: "Tom Higgins"
Subject: FTE Perf - Maverick Weight....

> As for the cam selection, be careful with getting a cam for a Maverick
...
> those weigh quite a bit less than a truck, what works for that might not
> work so hot for 2 tons of steel ...

My first car was a 70 Maverick and as I recall from the few times I had to
push
it it sure FELT like two tons :)

Tom in Phoenix.



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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:37:49 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Maverick Weight....

>> As for the cam selection, be careful with getting a cam for a Maverick
>> those weigh quite a bit less than a truck, what works for that might not
>> work so hot for 2 tons of steel ...
>
>My first car was a 70 Maverick and as I recall from the few times I had to
>push
>it it sure FELT like two tons :)
>
hahahaha .. yeah you're not jokin there, I was pushin a 69 cougar by myself
for nearly a block, the stupid football players in the Festiva didn't even
bother to try and help, just yell at me... I was not very pleased ... but
once it started there was no way they could get me :)

trust me though I've pushed both and a truck is much heavier.


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:01:14 -0500
From: "David Claflin"
Subject: FTE Perf - re: cam

Shane,
I had the C-4 with a 2.79 gear, it would turn about 1900 60 mph, I don't
know how much the Maverick weighed but I think they are around 3200-3400
lbs. I now have that same cam in a 351W w/ AOD in my 52 F1. It has a little
lope at idle and can smoke the tires if I gas it going about 25 mph. I found
that out only by accident, I would never do that on purpose (heh,heh).
Remember, what works for a 351 may be too big for a 302, it is always better
to be too small on a cam than be too big. The harsh lope may impress some
people at the drive-in but you will have to live with poor mileage and
performance if it is too radical. You should not get anything less than 110
degree lobe centers and not over 220 degrees duration at .050. Wide lobe
centers cause rough idle but also kill mileage because of overlap (both....

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