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perf-list-digest Thursday, July 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 161



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

RE: FTE Perf - RE: turbo's - Right List
FTE Perf - RE:RE: turbo's - Right List
Re: FTE Perf - no distributor spark?
FTE Perf - Links and such
FTE Perf - 400 intake gasket
Re: FTE Perf - Links and such
Re: FTE Perf - re: 351W in a RANGER!!!!!!
Re: FTE Perf - no distributor spark?

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:59:21 +1000
From: les
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - RE: turbo's - Right List

On Tuesday, June 29, 1999 2:47 PM, Chris Samuel
[SMTP:fourmuelz email.msn.com] wrote:


> Pick up a copy of "TURBOCHARGERS" by Hugh ???? Arrrrggg! I have forgotten
> his name!
>
> ---->>So why do it ? - like drilling holes in disc rotors, - cause it's
> there !
> Is there any better reason for making more power!?

No Such Thing As Too Much Reliable HP!!

> Muel


Thank You, Gentlemen.
For your words of wisdom concerning Turbos. Yes, I have 'the book'
($34aud) and it appears after several months of looking around, this is the
only down to earth, yes it can work, book I have found. A couple of others
I have seen are very theoretical, and short on the practical that will
work. I suppose this elevates this book (Turbochargers) to bible status! I
am going to ask for a commission on sales, I've brokered 4 sales to other
'interested parties'. Yes I do have the propane book from the same series -
very enlightening.....
I have trolled www. and very little info is available on turbo-propane
setups. Tractor Pullers do seem to be right into it. Ford.com.nz have
produced a LPG only, Supercharged production car, unfortunately I have
serious reservations about the longevity of this particular unit (roller
bearing & drive belt life). Vitalgas (Caltex) have been extremely helpful
with LPG info concerning comp ratios, etc and the n.z. experience.
As 'Chris' pointed out, 'I've missed a whole book load' - well not
entirely - I just didn't want to reprint the book on a question that MAY
have been in the wrong list. However I have not been aware of using s/steel
plumbing. This point I will take up with the potential installer. This is
exactly to sort of info I am looking for - the unexpected!
The Installer I am currently working with (against?) owns an F100 351
turbo'd and he wants to convert to LPG, I've got the Gas, Just need/want
the turbos!! My engine has been built to run gas, at 89 octane, the same as
that fuel that's being passed of as petrol nowadays, so yes I was planning
on about 7-10 psi boost unless I was advised differently. But with due
respect, this is still a shy under, a 2 ton truck!! - a GT Falcon It
Ain't!!
Gee's, it seems not all that long ago that if the car didn't need at least
100-105 octane fuel, I wouldn't waste my time driving it!.


Regards

Les
The geographical center of Sydney
E-mail: lesw cyber.net.au



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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:40:09 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE Perf - RE:RE: turbo's - Right List

Bill.

I saw the re, after I'd sent the er.
Thanks for Mr. MacInnes name.
This is the most easily read and understood book on Turbos that I have
found.

Muel



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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:26:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - no distributor spark?

You need to know if there is voltage to the coil.
Should be 9 volts or so, can't remember the exact
reading, with the key in the run position. Also
should have voltage there with the key in the start
position. Check it at the wire coming from the
ignition switch, not the one going to the dist cap.
If no voltage then get a book and check out the wiring
diagrams. If you have voltage under both conditions
then you're in business. You need to check voltage at
the end of the coil wire. Remove it from the cap and
plug a meter onto it that can read high voltage,
25,000 volts or more (pretty common, don't spend a lot
of money). If ya got it there then plug the coil wire
back onto the cap and pull a spark plug wire off of
the cap. Check for the voltage at the cap terminal.
Then work your way on down to the plugs. As long as
you have voltage to the coil when you turn the key,
it's between there and the plugs... Timing is another
issue...

Good luck!
Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87

- --- Tom Ewing wrote:
> I've put on a new Edelbrock 750cfm carb and RPM
> PERFORMER manifold, plus
> I've replaced and somewhat temporarily improved the
> fuel lines as best
> I can. However I removed the distributor to make it
> easier to install the
> intake
> manifold and now I can't seem to get any spark? I
> can't even get the thing
> to
> backfire. At least I think its lack of spark. I
> can see fuel in the carb..
> I've tried
> setting a spark plug on the intake connected to
> spark plug wire and remotely
> stood in front of the truck and tried to see the
> spark plug firing, but I
> don't. Am
> I running this test of the ignition improperly?
> I'll keep checking.The
> coil, the
> condenser, the spark plug wires are new. The spark
> plugs are not new in
> that I tried using them a bit with the badly leaking
> previous carb, but they
> appear totally clean and I only used them for a
> matter of minutes as I
> recall.
> Tom
> 58F100, 429,C6
>
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Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:18:32 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE Perf - Links and such

Well I have passed this on to the 61-79 list, and thought I would give all
you guys an equal opportunity at this. I keep a links page up on my site,
as some of you may know, the purpose is two fold 1) I can keep track of
places I like to visit even after my stupid machine crashes (the page is
stored on a server and 2) it can help people who wander into my page find
things that they are also interested in ....

If you would like to be included in this page as a link, please let me
know. If you just want a place to set a bookmark with a bunch of odd
links, here's the place to go too....

for those of you who were asking about the oil filter study and the oil
commentary on the MiniMopar site, I've got links from my page to those as
well ....

you can see the "beta" page at

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/links.html

depending on the response to this, I expect it to be up to its "normal"
residence sometime tomorrow, which will be:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/links.html


Thanks,
wish
73ish F-1?? 4x4
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/truck.html
96 Mustang GT
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/mustang.html

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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:41:58 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE Perf - 400 intake gasket

Well I just got the new gasket kit for my 400 today, Sheesh!...the intake
gasket looks more like a hard part than a gasket! Anybody have any problems
installing this monster after having the block &/or heads milled?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"



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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:44:40 EDT
From: FLR150 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Links and such

Will,
Yeah, if you don't mind, put a link to my page
Wayne's Page ,
and I'll put a link in for yours...kinda like banner exchange...=)
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:44:34 -0700
From: "Vierra, William BGI SF"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - re: 351W in a RANGER!!!!!!

The information on Advance Adapters is:

800 350-2223
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://advanceadapters.com/
aadapters tcsn.net email
P. O. Box 247
335 Santa Bella
Paso Robles, CA 93447

Starting on page 54 of their January 1998 catalog they have items for both 4
wheel drive and two wheel drive Rangers.
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:58:00 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - no distributor spark?

Shane
Thanks for the electrical advice.
I've been busy and haven't had much time, but I am now getting spark to the
points. I've got the OEM breaker points set up, and I don't THINK I was
getting
that before, but sometimes I move a little fast with the under hood
analysis.
I saw where the points were gapped much too wide, and I wondered
if that could have prevented the the system from "building up". Not sure of
the technology here, but I recall something like this. Anyway like I said
I've
been short of time and haven't been able to pursue it beyond correcting
the point gap, and observing the spark at the points. If it doesn't start
now
I suppose it will be either because I've installed the distributor
incorrectly, which
I can fix, or because the truck has set there for some time, and although I
did
add some fresh fuel, its possible that the fuel in the lines and at the
bottom of the
tank may have gone bad, etc.
Tom
58F100 429
92Ranger 2.3L

- -----Original Message-----
From: shane san miguel
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - no distributor spark?


>You need to know if there is voltage to the coil.
>Should be 9 volts or so, can't remember the exact
>reading, with the key in the run position. Also
>>issue...
>
>Good luck!
>Shane
>55 F100 5.0
>15.51 87
>
>--- Tom Ewing wrote:
>> fuel lines as best
>> I can. However I removed the distributor to make it
>> easier to install the
>> intake
>> manifold and now I can't seem to get any spark? I
>> spark plug firing, but I
>> don't. Am
>> I running this test of the ignition improperly?

>Do You Yahoo!?....


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