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perf-list-digest Friday, June 25 1999 Volume 02 : Number 156



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - drilled rotors
RE: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft
Re: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft
Re: FTE Perf - 2.3liter bracket racer
FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5
FTE Perf - Re: Tranny kits ?
Re: FTE Perf - Re: Tranny kits ?
Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5
FTE Perf - drop axle in a 55 F100
Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5
FTE Perf - Cast or forged...
Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:52:02 -0500
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Perf - drilled rotors

been following the thread on vented drums and it brought this to mind...

My '53 is going to have 4 wheel disks... those drilled 'vented' rotors
sure look good

Anyone with knowledge on how this is done... is it a special procedure ???
or just
layout the pattern,. punch, drill and countersink ??? how many is enough
?? how many is too many ???

I've got the layout dye, centerpunch and drill press

any ideas guys ???

john


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:07:00 -0700
From: "O'Connell, Dennis M"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft

Bill,

just my 2 cents, but I had a cam made up for me by Comp cams for my 429 that
I am very happy with. The machinest called comp and gave them tire size
rear end ratio, engine specs and what I wanted; a little rump rump with more
horsepower and they sent me a "special grind".

I don't know how special it is, but I haven't seen it listed as one of the
standard grinds in catalogs. The cam works great. I've got a nice lope to
the engine, it comes up faster from lower revs and feels like more horses.
Biggest complement I got was from my Che*y friends that said it sounded like
a built Che*y.

Dennis
55F100

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> Which "big" name are we talking about?
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan G Sheffler
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft
>
>
> >The cams listed in the FMS catalog are made by one of those "Big" names.
> >As a side note, Engle has some nice profiles, and I've heard good things
> >about Crower.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:45:17 -0400
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft

I believe the FMS camshafts are made by Crane or Edelbrick. I believe
Ted mentioned about getting a cam custom ground by Comp Cams. They have
a good technical department. They have a section in their catalog that
just has the lobe profiles and specifications that allow you to order
what ever pattern you want. They also have a section in the back of
their catalog with what would be in effect, off the shelf custom grinds.
I choose a standard profile from Comp Cans for use in the 390 for the '63
Merc I am working on. The only cams that Dove Manufacturing sells are
the Comp Cams, that's gotta say something. To sort of paraphrase Smokey
Yunick, the motor don't know what brand of camshaft it's got in it.
Basically, as long as the cam is manufactured properly, it doesn't matter
who makes it. What matters with camshafts is choosing the "RIGHT ONE".


Bryan

On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:40:12 -0700 "Bill Beyer"
writes:
>Which "big" name are we talking about?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bryan G Sheffler
>To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 9:55 PM
>Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Motorsport camshaft
>
>
>>The cams listed in the FMS catalog are made by one of those "Big"
>names.
>>As a side note, Engle has some nice profiles, and I've heard good
>things
>>about Crower.
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 2.3liter bracket racer

Tom,

A buddy of mine raced a 96 Ranger, stock, at the Wed.
night fun drags at Sac raceway for a while. His truck
was pretty consistent and he had a lot of fun. We put
a K&N on it, platinum plugs, and synthetic oils in the
engine, tranny, and differential. Make sure you run
with the tailgate down (get rid of the McDonald's
wrappers back there first!) and put premium fuel in
it. Also a good "clean out" of the entire truck the
night before can sometimes get rid of 15-20 lbs of
junk, depending on how you live... hehehe. We
removed the spare, jack, tools, girlfriend, etc... He
ran about a 19.XX if I remember right, but it's been a
long time. We cleaned out the truck the first time
and weighed everything on a bathroom scale... It was
50+ lbs of stuff (including the spare and all that).
The synthetics helped the most. I think you have a
great idea about learning to race in the truck.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87

- --- Tom Ewing wrote:
> I don't know if there are in fellow 4cylinder racers
> reading this list, but
> if there are maybe you could give some help. I'm

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:26:45 -0500
From: "Duncan, Jeff"
Subject: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5

Okay. How similar are the 2.3 and 2.5 litre engines? Are there any
interchangeable parts? What can I do to increase the performance of the
2.5L? I have a 98 Ranger XLT, 2.5L, 5spd manual, 2WD. How hard/expensive
would it be to get the performance of this thing up to that of my old car at
least? It was only a Neon BTW, so I'm not being too unrealistic. I'm
looking for things like cold air intakes, sparkplugs that actually do make a
positive difference, other ignition stuff, computer chip etc... Maybe some
internal stuff too. Oh, and exhaust. I'm not averse to doing just about
anything, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Later...

Jeff Duncan
Des Moines, Ia


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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:38:33 -0500
From: Phil DeSanto
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: Tranny kits ?

>Where could I get a rebuild kit for it if I wanted to do it myself?
>Shane 55 F-100 5.0

Shane, I use Northern Auto Parts . Great prices and fast too. A C-4 kit
is about $50. Call em at 800-831-0884 for a free catalog. They sell a
FULL line of parts too. Phil
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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:11:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re: Tranny kits ?

Just ordered the catalog.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87


> Shane, I use Northern Auto Parts . Great prices and
> fast too. A C-4 kit
> is about $50. Call em at 800-831-0884 for a free
> catalog. They sell a
> FULL line of parts too. Phil
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5

Gears are always a good step. They can cut a 1/2
second off if you select the right ratio. With the 5
speed you can go pretty steep and still get good gas
mileage. Probably about a 350 dollar bill installed.

Shane
55 F100 5.0
15.51 87
- --- "Duncan, Jeff" wrote:
> Okay. How similar are the 2.3 and 2.5 litre
> engines? Are there any
> interchangeable parts? What can I do to increase
> the performance of the
> 2.5L? I have a 98 Ranger XLT, 2.5L, 5spd manual,

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: shane san miguel
Subject: FTE Perf - drop axle in a 55 F100

Anybody ever install a dropped axle in a 53-56 F100?
I got one for free (had to do some garbage hauling)
and I don't know what I need to do to rebuild it.
This will be my first foray into the world of wobbly
front ends.

How do I tell if I need oversize king pins? Mid Fifty
F100's told me that if the axle is "wallered out" I
will need them. I think I get the picture but how
often does an axle get "wallered out".

Do I need the tie rod drop kit?

Is it expensive to get the axle aligned/bent etc?

What will it handle and ride like if I do the axle and
steering?

Shane
55 F100 5.0 "wallerin' down the track"...
15.51 87

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:05:53 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5

>Okay. How similar are the 2.3 and 2.5 litre engines?

Yikes, 2.5 ? I don't think I've ever heard of this one ... if someone
emails you off list about this motor I'm very interested ...

> How hard/expensive
>would it be to get the performance of this thing up to that of my old car at
>least? It was only a Neon BTW, so I'm not being too unrealistic.

What sort of Neon did you have ? If you had one of the R/T's that could be
a pretty big order (not on acceleration, but on handling) ... Borla makes
an exhaust kit that is cat back, so that should work some for you ... don't
really know much about that motor, but a peek at the parts on someone
else's will tell you for sure what will work and what won't ...


>
>Jeff Duncan
>Des Moines, Ia
>
WHAT??? Someone in Iowa ... that must make 4 people then! Hey you're
close enough, if you want/need any help with the hop ups let me know, I'm
just a bit north of you ...

Also someone mentioned a gear swap ... my boss has the 3.73's on his ranger
and would love to trade to something that gets better mileage ... maybe we
can talk ?


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:05:50 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE Perf - Cast or forged...

OK I've given up on the Silv-O-Lites hypereutectics for my 400. They're
discontinued/out of production anyway and the only other 400 pistons that
UEM makes are still .020 destroked. So the question now is cast or forged
pistons. I checked on some sets from PAW. The forged are made by Fed. Mogul
and have a comp. dist. of 1.647, -.003 from stock, the cast are made by
Badger and have a comp. dist. of 1.637, -.013 from stock. I f I go with the
forged what do I tell the machine shop so that I avoid that annoying
"clatter" that poor fitting forged pistons make when cold?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:58:56 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5

Jeff
The Ford Motorsport SVO 99 catalog states on page 111 that ..."In 1998
the Ranger engine grows to 2.5L with increased stroke." They have a few
items listed such as high flow air filters, a roller tappet/camshaft kit(its
for the 2.3L, but you could ask about the 2.5L). I'm new to this engine
too,
but if I understand what they're saying in the catalog the 2.0L,2.3L, and
2.5L OHC Engines are very similar. However they are very different in terms
of bore, stroke, bore spacing, block deck height and crankshaft journal
diameters. Other items I saw listed in the SVO catalog were a variety of
camshafts for these motors--I don't know if Smog compliance is an issue
with changing cams-- a stronger clutch disc and pressure plate--but
apparently
one has to get a flywheel out of a 1983-86 Thunderbird/Cougar/Mustang 2.3L
turbo. With all the differences they list for these motors, I wonder if
they
mean they're similar in that they each have 4cylinders?
I think they're making fun of me.

Tom
58F100 429
92Ranger2.3L,5spd

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From: Duncan, Jeff
To: 'perf-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 9:40 AM
Subject: FTE Perf - What to do to this 2.5


>Okay. How similar are the 2.3 and 2.5 litre engines? Are there any....


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