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perf-list-digest Thursday, June 17 1999 Volume 02 : Number 148



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance
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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Really dumb question!
Re: FTE Perf - Really dumb question!
Re: FTE Perf - Really dumb question!
FTE Perf - Holley carb linkage
Re: FTE Perf - Holley carb linkage
FTE Perf - Holley carbs

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:03:17 -0500
From: "William Zellmann"
Subject: FTE Perf - Really dumb question!

This is gonna sound completely stupid, but I DO have to deal with it.

I recently bought a new Holley 4-bbl to put on my '82 300 I6 (long story).
Trying to look ahead, and knowing that just about ANYTHING is available for
a Holley, I went ahead and ordered an assortment of those little ball-type
linkage connections.

For some unknown reason, Holleys come with a huge 1/2" hole for the
throttle linkage (I've never seen or even HEARD of a 1/2" throttle
linkage!); and then the edge of the hole is bent out to protrude about
1/4".

This means that two stepped "adapter" type washers must be used to reduce
the 1/2" hole to the 1/4" that every throttle linkage I've ever seen runs.
Then, you can put the little ball stud through this, and connect the
linkage cable to the ball. OK? So far, fine.

Trouble is, all of the ball studs in the Holley kit have threaded shanks
less than 1/2" long. By the time I put two of those adapter washers through
this hole, the shanks don't have enough threads to put a nut on! (The
longest threaded portion was 13/32" long).

Okay, so everybody keeps telling me that everybody in the world runs
Holleys. Surely they don't all take a 1/4" bolt to the machine shop and
have a ball milled on the end. Where can you get a throttle linkage ball
1/2" long or longer?


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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:21:20 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Really dumb question!

>Okay, so everybody keeps telling me that everybody in the world runs
>Holleys. Surely they don't all take a 1/4" bolt to the machine shop and
>have a ball milled on the end. Where can you get a throttle linkage ball
>1/2" long or longer?
>
I know originally I had two washers that were just clamped down and bent in
at the middle because of the force on them ... that worked ... eventually
my g.f's dad milled one for me at work and just gave it to me ... I'll have
to look again tonight to see, but I'm pretty sure its just a stock ball on
there, one that came in the kit ... I'll also check my kit and see if there
are any "leftovers" in there that may work for you ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:02:33 -0400
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Really dumb question!

William Zellmann wrote:
>
> This is gonna sound completely stupid, but I DO have to deal with it.
>
> I recently bought a new Holley 4-bbl to put on my '82 300 I6

Just pure opinion here..

Holley carbs suck for daily street use. If you enjoy tinkering with
it every week then by all means keep it otherwise get an Edelbrock or
Carter. Every Holley 4 BBL I've ever had required constant attention
(The 2 BBLs were awesome though!) I wont purchase another.


Tim
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:50:37 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: FTE Perf - Holley carb linkage

I've got a newer Holley carb. I think its a 650 elect choke. I didn't use
the large hole when connecting it to my throttle cable. There are at least
three holes in the same plate, and I just used the one that most closely
met my needs. It fit fine with an aftermarket throttle cable set up I'm
using.
It must be around 3/16 or so. Your carb my have a different linkage plate
of course. I've put about 2500 local miles, three months of local driving,
and so far the thing has operated flawlessly with no adjustments. My only
small comlaint is that I'm still trying to find the choke/speed adjustment
nut or whatever adjusting device. The instructions show a 5/16 wrench
under the elect choke adjustment area, but I don't yet see anything down
there. The net result is that the motor idles faster than I like when the
choke is working. I plan to add a different carb spacer, and when I do
I'll lift it up from the manifold and take a better look. I hope its down
there
somewhere.
Tom

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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:05:09 -0700
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Holley carb linkage

> The instructions show a 5/16 wrench
> under the elect choke adjustment area, but I don't yet see anything down
> there. The net result is that the motor idles faster than I like when the
> choke is working. I plan to add a different carb spacer, and when I do
> I'll lift it up from the manifold and take a better look. I hope its down
> there
> somewhere.
> Tom
...........

I recently read the same instructions while installing a new Holley with
electric choke. The instructions say to use a 5/16" wrench to adjust the
fast idle, but it was actually 1/4". Heh... so much for instructions. It is
easier to see and adjust the fast idle if you open the throttle. When the
throttle plates are closed, the adjusting screw is hidden by the choke.


Danger



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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:51:09 -0500
From: "ben"
Subject: FTE Perf - Holley carbs

I picked up 4 holley carbs a couple of weeks ago(2-4bbl's 2-2bbl's), and I
would like to know more about them. Are the model numbers stamped on them
some where? I'm trying to find out the cfm, how old they are and if they are
worth keeping. There is one of them that I have never seen before, it is
unlike any holley 4bbl I've ever seen because it looks similer to a
quadra-jet but the primary's and secondary's are the same size. The holley
name is on the top towards the rear, any ideas? I looked through my PAW
catalog and didn't see any. Did holley's all come with the same fuel filter?

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