perf-list-digest Monday, January 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 006



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Exhaust Coatings
FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W
FTE Perf - 385 series block heights
Re: FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W
FTE Perf - 385 series block heights
FTE Perf - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?
FTE Perf - Powerstroke Engine Oil
Re: FTE Perf - Powerstroke Engine Oil
RE: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?
FTE Perf - Powerstroke Performance
RE: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?
Re: FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 08:10:33 PST
From: "Christopher Denson"
Subject: FTE Perf - Exhaust Coatings

Hey Gang,
I used Plasti-Cote 1500F temp (black) on my manifolds a month and a half
ago, and still looks brand new. I bought mine at Kragens (Shucks, or
Checkers) for 4.99. They also sell Stainless Steel and Cast Iron Gray
coatings.

Chris in San Diego
'67 F100 C/S 352FE


>>>have them coated, something like jethot coatings. expensive - yes,
but they will last ALOT longer...wish i could afford it for my custom
headers or the cast iron manifolds on your Dad's Olds, Eastwood offers a
couple of good coatings. There are a couple of guys on the 61-79 list
that have used this coating with success. It's good stuff from what I
hear in other places.
>34105Z Factory Gray High Temp Coating
There is also:
>10077Z Satin Black High Temp Coating
>10090Z Stainless Steel Gray High Temp Coating
These are available from Eastwood Paint Company.

>Good luck,
>Chad


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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:48:01 -0500
From: Rick Heis
Subject: FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W

I heard alot of talk about the different automatic transmission. I understand that the 1999 F150 SC SB XLT have the 4R70W. Is that correct? What are the specs to this new tranny.


What are the advantages or disadvantages and the differences between the 1999 4R70W and the previous E4OD? Why did Ford change them? Is the 4R70W a better performing or quality tranny?


Thanks to all,


Rick Heis

Rick Heis

u1c04209 mail.wvnet.edu

(second alphanumeric is the number 'one', NOT the
letter 'L')

P.O. Box 40, C-2 Road

Arthurdale, WV 26520-0040

(304) 864 6356
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:00:35 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE Perf - 385 series block heights

Thank you George Miller for the Deck heights. What publishing co.
published the book you refer to??

Azie


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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:03:59 -0500
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W

Rick Heis wrote:
>
> I heard alot of talk about the different automatic transmission. I
> understand that the 1999 F150 SC SB XLT have the 4R70W. Is that
> correct? What are the specs to this new tranny.
>
> What are the advantages or disadvantages and the differences between
> the 1999 4R70W and the previous E4OD? Why did Ford change them? Is the
> 4R70W a better performing or quality tranny?
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Rick Heis
> Rick Heis
> u1c04209 mail.wvnet.edu
> (second alphanumeric is the number 'one', NOT the letter 'L')
> P.O. Box 40, C-2 Road
> Arthurdale, WV 26520-0040
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Same tranny...just been upgraded
Chris
94 Lightning #381
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 16:32:33 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - 385 series block heights

How to rebuild your Ford V-8 351C-351M-400-429-460
Author - Tom Monroe
Publisher - HP Books 602/888-2150

Amazon Books has it for $13.56

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895860368/qid=916013432/sr=1-2/0
02-3069243-5936600

If you haunt the boneyards, the interchange alone is worth the price. It
provides final compression ratios for every combo of heads and deck
heights.

George Miller


Thank you George Miller for the Deck heights. What publishing co.
published the book you refer to??

Azie


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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:06:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:24:18
From: Don Paauw
Subject: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?

Argh.. I'm running into a mixture of English & metric on
my Ranger and am losing track of all my sockets.
Has anyone used Metrinch wrenches or just have an opinion.
These are the wrenches that have a bulge that contacts the
flat of a nut, rather than the corner. This is supposed to
allow the wrench to be used on English and metric sizes, a
well as rounded-off nuts. It sounds good in theory but I'm
a bit skeptical.

Also, J.C.Whitney has a 62 piece set for $100. Is this a good
price or just typical?

- -- Don



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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:08:45 -0600
From: "venusfly"
Subject: FTE Perf - Powerstroke Engine Oil

What viscosity engine oil do you run in your Powerstroke in the winter with
temperatures below 0 F? I do not seam to be able to find a 5W diesel oil
and the 15W is somewhat thick for extreme temperatures. Does anyone run a
synthetic 5W engine oil in their Powerstroke engine? What is your
experience?

Joe

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:21:49 EST
From: WoodStck45 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Powerstroke Engine Oil

Joe,

We have a 1994 F-250 Non-Turbo Diesel pickup. It has 162,000 . In the summer
we run straight 30 wait, and in the winter we run 15w-40. 15w-40 does a
pretty good job in the winter time in dad's truck. Even though your is a
power stroke it i don't think it will make a difference
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:31:17 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?

FWIW, i design hydraulic and hand wrenches, sockets, drives, torque
converters and accessories, and this is how i feel about it.

driving on the flank is good, for the nut. period.

snap-on and others have been doing for a while, it is not a new idea. i
just in fact did a 4 1/2" socket the other day using a modified flank
drive.

driving on the flats, is NOT good for the socket. it increases the stress
on the thin walls many times (depending on the actual design), and helps
lead to sockets getting "bigger" (craftsman sockets do this alot) or
breaking.

but, a socket that is made for more than one size of socket is not good.
for example (from SAE and DIN):

dimension accross flats for a 1/2 nut is .489-.500
the socket dimension is .504-.510

for a 13 mm nut is .512-.502 and
the socket dimension is .513-.521

so, if a socket is designed for a 1/2" nut it may be too tight on a 13mm
nut (.504 is smaller than .512, and even .510 is smaller than .512)

if the socket is made for a 13mm, it would be too loose for a 1/2" as .513
is beyond the max size for a 1/2" socket.

so if it does work with both sizes there must be a compromise made, like
maybe tolerancing the socket for the larger sized nut. now, it may
actually engage the nut, but will be engaging it very slightly on the
corners of the nut, which leads to rounding the corners and then lotsa
cursing and screaming...

BTW, i chose the 13mm and the 1/2 inch as it is a common sized inch and
closest metric size - even though 13mm is not as common as a 12 or 14mm
nut.

so, although i do beleive that they will work most often, i think there is
a limitation as the the actual abilities. i would rather have two 6pt
socket sets, one metric, one inch, and maybe just paint the metrics blue or
something for easy fast recognition. (i keep mine in seperate drawers).

one other smaller problem, is that flank drive sockets DO NOT work on 12pt
nuts such as those found all over my pulltruck engine from ARP, and inside
on the rods, etc. these nuts MUST have a correct size 12pt hex socket to
be tightened/loosened properly.

does this help any??

sleddog



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From: Don Paauw[SMTP:dpaauw netwizards.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 12:24 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?

Argh.. I'm running into a mixture of English & metric on
my Ranger and am losing track of all my sockets.
Has anyone used Metrinch wrenches or just have an opinion.
These are the wrenches that have a bulge that contacts the
flat of a nut, rather than the corner. This is supposed to
allow the wrench to be used on English and metric sizes, a
well as rounded-off nuts. It sounds good in theory but I'm
a bit skeptical.

Also, J.C.Whitney has a 62 piece set for $100. Is this a good
price or just typical?

- -- Don



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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:10:33 -0600
From: "venusfly"
Subject: FTE Perf - Powerstroke Performance

Does anybody have any experience concerning Powerstroke performance upgrades
(e.g. Chips, GaleBanks, Exhaust, K&N etc.)
I would appreciate any info.

Joe

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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:35:26
From: Don Paauw
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - are Metrinch wrenches any good?

At 09:31 PM 1/10/99 -0500, sleddog wrote:

>does this help any??

Hmmm... Well it's stopped me from buying the set for the time being.
Now I have to think about this; ow, ow, ow.

- -- Don


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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 00:55:00 -0800
From: "Rob Bryan"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - E4OD vs. 4R70W

>> What are the advantages or disadvantages and the differences between
>> the 1999 4R70W and the previous E4OD? Why did Ford change them? Is the
>> 4R70W a better performing or quality tranny?
>
> Same tranny...just been upgraded
> Chris
> 94 Lightning #381
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Actually, no. The 4R70W is an upgraded, wide-ratio version of the AOD-E,
which is just an electronic version of the AOD. The upgraded version of the
E4OD that is used in newer trucks is called the 4R100. Supposedly both of
these transmissions are better shifting and more durable than the units they....


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