perf-list-digest Tuesday, March 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 053



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Re: mallory uni-lites
RE: FTE Perf - Intake advice
FTE Perf - RE: Intake advice
FTE Perf - locking differential
Re: FTE Perf - locking differential
Re: FTE Perf - locking differential
Re: FTE Perf - Leak down testers
FTE Perf - PLD V2 #53
Re: FTE Perf - Intake advice
FTE Perf - Frame-mounted fuel pump for 302
FTE Perf - Looking for a Holley Mile Dial
Re: FTE Perf - Intake advice
Re: FTE Perf - Frame-mounted fuel pump for 302
FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft
Re: FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft
FTE Perf - Wayne, got your truck back yet? Was ext. warranty shaft.
Re: FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:45:17 -0700
From: Mike Orendorf
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: mallory uni-lites

I have had this problem once too, in a truck I dont have anymore. However, in my current truck, I have
had the Unilite running good for about 5 years.

Also, when the other one died, I did not know what was wrong with it, so I sent the coil and distributor
back to Mallory, and they replaced both for no cost. Because of that action, I will stick with Mallory
for a long time, even if their products are not the best money can buy.

my 2 cents...

- - Mike



"P.S. Stear clear of the Unilite dist. if you are concerned about
reliabi=
lity I understand that the electronic eye that is in them has a tendancy
=
to burn out and it will leave you sitting when it does." >>>

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:58:40 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Intake advice

what else do you oplan on doing to the engine? the perfect intake today
may be just an expensive hink of aluminum tomorrow if you plan on doing
more work.

for example, for all else stock the edelbroke is most likely a good choice.
if you intend on also going to a bigger cam, headers, etc the edelbroke
"packages" will work good, but a weiand or holley could be better.

what you are basically looking for is an intake that is a dual plane and
your carb bolts up easily. the runners should be small, a bit smaller at
the head flange than the bigginning (about 3 degrees). A small amount of
port mismatch, the intake being smaller than the head port is good. but
not too much.

the most restrictive part of any flow path is sudden enlargement, that is
why it must be small. the small step here will help fuel atomization. the
smaller ports help keep flow velocity up for low rpm torque.

it would be easier for me to tell you what NOT to use. here we go:
big ports, single planes, tall intakes. (everything opposite of the stuff
i build.)

sleddog
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From: Dan Shade[SMTP:dshade rerols.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 1:23 AM
To: perf
Subject: FTE Perf - Intake advice

I am looking to replace an intake manifold on a small block (351W).
Does anyone have any experience with Edelbrock, Holley, or Weiand
intakes? Basically, I am looking for good low rpm torque and
horsepower. The engine currently has a stock cam, stock manifolds, and
a 600cfm 1850 Holley carb. I am planning on still using the same carb.

Dan Shade

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Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 11:02:49 -0800
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE Perf - RE: Intake advice

- -> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 01:23:47 -0500
- -> From: Dan Shade
- -> Subject: FTE Perf - Intake advice

- -> I am looking to replace an intake manifold on a small block (351W).
- -> Does anyone have any experience with Edelbrock, Holley, or Weiand
- -> intakes? Basically, I am looking for good low rpm torque and
- -> horsepower. The engine currently has a stock cam, stock manifolds, and
- -> a 600cfm 1850 Holley carb. I am planning on still using the same carb.

- -> Dan Shade

I have in the past built this engine using the Edelbrock: Performer,
Performer RPM, Torker, Victor, Holley and the Weiand, Action, Stealth, and
X-cellerator.
For low RPM power I recommend that you use the Edelbrock Performer, or
Weiand Stealth. My reasoning is that both of these manifolds will with the
appropriate associated components* give you a boost in power from idle up;
as well as give you a boost from 3500 RPM up to 5000 RPM.
IMHO: Unless your running a SBCHEV forget the Holley's. IME they just don't
stack up! Unless you can get one used and cheap.
*The stock cam will work for a low RPM engine, but generally speaking the
stock exhaust manifolds will not allow the full benefit of the intake swap.
The 600CFM Holley is perfect for what you want.
So:
With the stock manifolds use what ever manifold you can get the cheapest of
the Edelbrock, Holley, Weiand, or the factory stocker!
If you plan on exhaust upgrades in the future my choice would come down to
the Edelbrock: Performer, Performer RPM; or the Weiand, Stealth; with my nod
going to the Weiand.

Living in a wine and cheese world.
Muel


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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:25:00 EST
From: WoodStck45 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - locking differential

Fellow Ford Owners

I am going to buy a locking differential for the rear of my 1991 Ford F-250
pickup. I was going to get the Powertrax Lockright, but then i heard it was
only good for about 50,000 miles. Is this true? I was told to get a Detroit
Locker but how much more money will it be? And will i have to adjust the ring
and pinion settings? I definatly want posi 100% of the time except on the
turns (i think that a lockright and detroit lock and un lock on turns). I was
wondering what you guys thought about these two lockers, and if you knew of
any other lockers that did the exact same thing only maybe cheaper. On which
ones will I not have to reset the ring and pinion?

Paul
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 05:02:16 PST
From: "Doug Ridder"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - locking differential

It depends on how much stress yu are going to put to the locker as to how=
long it will last. The detriot is probably considered to be the best =
as far as strength and durability. The last one that I bought cost me =
arround $500 for a dana 70 rear axle. The detriot does require realignme=
nt of the ring gear backlash but you shouldn't need to do anything to pin=
ion setting. the detriots come as an entirely different carrier. If you=
can get a No Spin set up for your application it is basically the same =
unit as the detriot but you put it into your own carrier and shouldn't =
need to realign the gears.

Their are several other types of units out their that are cheaper and can=
be put in with out adjusting the gears but I am not familiar with any =
of the ones that you mention. I do know however that alot of them are =
designed for car racing and may not be able to handle the stresses that =
you can put on them in a truck depending on what you plan on doing with =
it.

Doug

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> Fellow Ford Owners
>
> I am going to buy a locking differential for the rear of my 1991 Ford =
F-250
> pickup. I was going to get the Powertrax Lockright, but then i heard =
it was
> only good for about 50,000 miles. Is this true? I was told to get a =
Detroit
> Locker but how much more money will it be? And will i have to adjust =
the ring
> and pinion settings? I definatly want posi 100% of the time except on =
the
> turns (i think that a lockright and detroit lock and un lock on turns).=
I was
> wondering what you guys thought about these two lockers, and if you kne=
w of
> any other lockers that did the exact same thing only maybe cheaper. =
On which
> ones will I not have to reset the ring and pinion?
>
> Paul
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:42:52 -0500
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - locking differential

Paul,
I haven't had any experience with the Powertrax stuff. But to
answer your question about the cost of the Detroit Locker, Summit has
them for $409.95 each, 28 or 31 spline.

Bryan

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 15:56:14 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Leak down testers

I assume there must be a calibrated flow limiter between the two
guages or the cylinder guage would always read 100 psi.

- -- Don


> Don, in simplest terms, it's a tool with two air pressure gauges that
> hooks up your air compressor to a given cylinder to see what that
> cylinders "leakage rate" is. The first gauge is regulated at 100 psi.
> (representing 100%) The second gauge only see's what the cylinder can
> hold. So anything less than 100 psi is the percentage (%) of leakage.
> If it holds a steady 85 psi then it has a "leakage rate" of 15 %, and so
> on.) The great thing about using these is you can actually hear where the
> escaping air AND your efficiency is going. You can listen at the throttle
> plates for an intake valve, the exhaust pipe for an exhaust valve, and
> the valve cover oil fill hole for piston and or ring blow-by. It's a
> great diagnostic tool for a lot of engine problems that won't show up on
> most guys "at home" equipment.
> I think some auto parts stores will rent them, or you can make your own
> with the right regulator a couple of tee's, gauges & quick couplers. You
> also need the spark plug hole adapter from your compression tester OR
> make some from a couple of different type plugs (from whatever your
> doing), with the porcelain guts knocked out.
>
> Hope this helps, Phil 64 F-100 ( world's oldest garage project )
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 01:36:40 GMT
From: cdailey newsguy.com (Chad Dailey)
Subject: FTE Perf - PLD V2 #53

Did anyone get digest #53? If so, could a kind soul please email me a
copy?

TIA,
chad

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 05:10:36 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>
>perf-list-digest Sunday, February 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number=
052
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 21:28:28 -0500
From: Brad Smith
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Intake advice

At 01:23 AM 2/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I am looking to replace an intake manifold on a small block (351W).
>Does anyone have any experience with Edelbrock, Holley, or Weiand
>intakes? Basically, I am looking for good low rpm torque and
>horsepower. The engine currently has a stock cam, stock manifolds, and
>a 600cfm 1850 Holley carb. I am planning on still using the same carb.
>
>Dan Shade
>
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>
I run a Edelbrock Torker intake on my 429... Awesome low end torque. I
hear Wieand makes good stuff too though... I wouldn't put any more carb on
that engine though, or you'll kill you torque.
The two best times to go fishing are when it is raining, and when it is
not...
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 99 19:08:46 PST
From: don neomagic.com (Donald Paauw)
Subject: FTE Perf - Frame-mounted fuel pump for 302

I'm putting a 302 into my '88 Ranger and a fuel calculator shows
that I need a 79 L/hr fuel pump. I believe my current frame-mounted
pump is rated for 66 L/hr. The stock Mustang in-tank pump is rated
at 110 L/hr but I'd like to stick with a frame-mounted pump.
Does anyone know of a frame-mounted pump capable of 80+ L/hr?
Possibly one of the larger trucks that came with 302's or 351's ?
My local dealer isn't very helpful here.

- -- Don
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:02:13 -0800
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE Perf - Looking for a Holley Mile Dial

I'm passively looking for a "Holley Mile Dial Kit" and or control unit.
Passively looking means that the price has to be right!
Anybody got one sitting around?
Contact me off line if you do.

Thankz all.
Muel

There is no connection between a Mile Dial and a Dial a Meal, just for the
record!


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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 23:17:02 -0500
From: Tim Turner
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Intake advice

Sleddog wrote:
>

> it would be easier for me to tell you what NOT to use. here we go:
> big ports, single planes, tall intakes. (everything opposite of the stuff
> i build.)

I *LIKE* it :-) You're quite right of course, just amused as I've seen
so many idiots put your kind of stuff on 'street' motors and wonder why
they bog, have no low end etc.

TT
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:47:41 EST
From: FLR150 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Frame-mounted fuel pump for 302

In a message dated 3/1/99 10:06:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, don neomagic.com
writes:


Possibly one of the larger trucks that came with 302s or 351s?
My local dealer isn't very helpful here.

-- Don >>
Don,
There are so many aftermarket pumps available out there. Names like Holley,
Paxton, Vortech, and others have high pressure fuel pumps that can be added in
line. Besides those there are also many adjustable "no name" brands that many
parts stores carry. These are adjustable, so have your fuel pressure gauge
ready to adjust the pressure coming to the fuel rail.
Just my 2 cents,
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:10:42 EST
From: FLR150 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft

Gang,
Well to inform you all, I have officially gotten the shaft from the Fidelity
Warranty division of Republic Industries (AutoNation, Alamo CarRental,
National Car Rental).
I have to this date JUST been able to get the corporate level address to begin
the paper trail to the top. Basically I was told that the problems with my
previous tranny were MY fault and that they are replacing the tranny even
though I violated the terms of the warranty by having the chip, an MSD 6AL
ignition enhancer, and a K and N. Filtercharger (all parts which by the way
come with a piece of paperwork that states "This part has been approved
emissions legal and does not void FACTORY warranty).
I am not going to take up much more of FTEs bandwidth with this subject, but I
would like to say this. To all of the great people out there who read and
participate in these discussion groups PLEASE BE CAREFUL! When you are
purchasing a vehicle, unless you are buying one that is problematic (I doubt
that as most of us do research before spending our hard earned bucks) DO NOT
GET THE EXTENDED WARRANTY! I have calculated the amount of money it has COST
me to have this worthless policy, which I paid a total of $1200 for, and I
could have put this money into a low interest bearing savings account and been
WAY ahead towards the repairs, and had it done right the first time! Just my
humble opinion, sorry to take up your time.
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 07:48:46 -0800
From: JJ Thomas
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft

I too, have been shafted by third party warranties. I will go with the
manufactures ($) warranty, or none at all.

- -Julian

At 07:10 03/02/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Gang,

>Well to inform you all, I have officially gotten the shaft from the Fidelity
>Warranty division of Republic Industries (AutoNation, Alamo CarRental,
>National Car Rental).

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>Wayne Foy
>'94 Flareside SC
>"Hazardous Material"

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:09:45 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave (CPCP Design)"
Subject: FTE Perf - Wayne, got your truck back yet? Was ext. warranty shaft.

Wayne,

Just don't tell the warranty company about the ported GT40 heads, the E303
cam, and extrude-honed intake!

I bought an extended warranty from Ford when I bought mine new. The problem
is that I want to make some mods like you've made (or maybe a supercharger
:^0), but I don't want to jeopardize the warranty, so I just endure wheezing
along in my stock 5.0L for now. I guess I'll wait until I go over 60K
miles, then do the mods that will blow up the AODE!

Maybe a good strategy would be to purchase an Explorer drivetrain from the
scrapyard and do the engine and tranny out of the truck (alot easier that
way).

So, have you got your truck back with the new tranny yet? I want to know
how it comes out.

Please, no flames about the above "wheezing" reference: I'm still beating
out the fires from my "wheeze-box" comment!

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 18:48:42 -0500
From: "Thomas J. Teixeira"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Extended Warranty Shaft

At 07:48 AM 3/2/99 -0800, JJ Thomas wrote:
>I too, have been shafted by third party warranties. I will go with the
>manufactures ($) warranty, or none at all.

The only extended warranty I've had was with Ford on an 87 Taurus. It
worked out OK and I probably got my money's worth out of it (several water
pumps, a radiator and I think some A/C work but I can't remember). When I
bought a 94 Taurus SHO I decided to take my chances without the warranty
and (knock on wood) I've done OK so far.

>From reading e-mail on other lists, the big advantage of the factory
warranty is that there is less finger pointing that goes on, and there seem
to be fewer complaints or misunderstandings about what is or is not
covered, but as you can see I voted with my feet (and wallet) to....


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