perf-list-digest Wednesday, February 17 1999 Volume 02 : Number 041



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance
Re: FTE Perf - 351w
Re: FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance
FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance (mufflers)
FTE Perf - dizzy?????
FTE Perf - Muffler
Re: FTE Perf - Muffler

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:07:38 -0500
From: Paul M Radecki
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance

>>Has anyone tried the Edelbrock Performer RPM mufflers? They look like
>>Turbos, but on the inside they're more like glasspacks. They are also
>>stainless, which is good because if I have to do exhaust work I only
want
>>to have to do it once.

>My thought on a fiberglass packed stainless muffler is that the "glass"
will
>burn out and you might be left with a very loud, very expensive system.
Just
>my thoughts.

Agreed, but the Edelbrock is supposedly packed with stainless steel wool
rather than fiberglass, and comes with a "limited" lifetime warranty
(whatever that means...). They also use dual tubes inside, as opposed to
normal single tube glasspacks, which might (?) make them quieter. If
nobody has any experience with these I might just try one and post the
results, but I'd sure like to know about anyone else's experience before
I do (they're kinda pricey). Thanks!

lordjanusz juno.com
'94 F150 300ci
'73 F100 360 (?) FE
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:33:58 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 351w

At 05:14 PM 2/15/99 , you wrote:
>does anybody know the base timing of a 1972 351w? is it the same as a
>302?
>
The stock timing is usually 6 or 8 degrees from my experience. Remember
also that the 351 has a different firing order than a 302 ... might want to
check that ... along with the compression vs. exhaust stroke mentioned
earlier (pull the spark plug and put your finger over the hole as you(or
someone else) turns the crank, you'll know a compression stroke.




Just my 2cents

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:06:25 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance

Thanks for your message at 08:07 AM 2/16/99 -0500, Paul M Radecki. Your
message was:
>
>Agreed, but the Edelbrock is supposedly packed with stainless steel wool
>rather than fiberglass, and comes with a "limited" lifetime warranty
>(whatever that means...). They also use dual tubes inside, as opposed to
>normal single tube glasspacks, which might (?) make them quieter.

OK> I've re-read this and I need to ask--which is quieter? (Unit 15,
Troyka's Hanbook For Writers, Misplaced Modifier/Ambiguity). I'm serious
(in spite of the smart-ass English teacher humor). Are the Edelbrock's
quieter? Are they more expensive? I'm looking for mufflers right now and
enquiring minds want to know...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:22:59 -0500
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: Inline Six performance (mufflers)

Hey all, have to put two cents in about mufflers. I've never tried the
Edelbrocks', but yes they are expensive. I've always used Walker or
Borla. The the Walker Super Turbo flows well and they are not loud by
any means. I put a set of the Super Turbos on an '87 Crown Vic ex-police
car and they were great. I parted the car out three years later (about
30-40K miles) and the mufflers still looked almost new!!! They even have
what they call a "Hemi" Super turbo, the case is 20" long and the overall
length is 25". Remember that case size plays a big role in the sound
dampening/absorption capability of a muffler. I E the larger the case,
the quieter the muffler. The "Hemi" super turbos are great if you want
to walk softly and carry a BIG stick-like my '63 Marauder!!!! Borlas are
expensive and flow extremely well. They are Stainless inside and out.
I've had these on my T/A for about ten (10) years now. They are
noticeable at idle and positively wicked sounding under load! They have
a plethora of designs out including the "universal" turbos. These
mufflers are the straight through design, if you look in one end, you can
see light coming from the other end!!!! Hell, you can see straight
through them!!!!

Bryan

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:16:58 -0600
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE Perf - dizzy?????

gary said;
>rotating the dizzy to get the pickup timing right

Is dizzy a common term for a distributor?? I have been turning wrenches for
over 25 years but had never seen or heard this term used until I ran across
it last year on the diy_efi list. Seemed like the aussies were using it
exclusively, does anyone know where it originated from?
I live in the central US (Nebraska) and it is not used around here.

later,
dale
still "dizzy" about some of these regional terms. :-)

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:58:29 -0500
From: J Cope
Subject: FTE Perf - Muffler

I drive an 88 BII and it needs a new muffler. Now, I go to a great auto
parts place, and they'll replace the one I've got for free. The problem is
that the muffler is really nothing special. I was wondering if anyone knew
of anything I could get that would boost my performance at least a little,
but not cost too much...
Thanks!

JC

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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:42:59 -0500
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Muffler

JC,
Like I said in an earlier posting, you can't go wrong with the
Walker Super Turbos. They have a lot of different case configurations
and flow pretty good. They have even been tested to flow almost as well
as a straight pipe!! They are also not very loud mufflers (like any
thing Thrush makes). I'm putting these on my '63 Marauder (the "Hemi"
Super Turbos). They are well constructed and from my experience, last a
good long time.

Bryan

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