perf-list-digest Tuesday, February 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 033



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - cutting SS Braided line
FTE Perf - cutting SS braid
Re: FTE Perf - Identify this
FTE Perf - 400 shorty headers
RE: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line
FTE Perf - overheating???
RE: FTE Perf - overheating???
RE: FTE Perf - overheating???
FTE Perf - Braided SS Line
FTE Perf - overheating???
FTE Perf - ADMIN: A.R.E Tonneau covers and truck caps

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 07:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: jniolon uss.com
Subject: FTE Perf - cutting SS Braided line


just a thought but, how bout wrapping with tape and using a cutoff
wheel in a dremel tool to cut thru it neatly ???????

john

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 08:00:41 -0600
From: "Ralph Ward"
Subject: FTE Perf - cutting SS braid

I wonder if you put an insert into it, and then used a coaxial cable cutter?
The usually cut the braid on those pretty cleanly
>Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:04:53 -0800
>From: George
>Subject: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line
>
>Has anybody found a not so secret way to cut these things? I wrap with
>masking tape and use a 32 tooth hacksaw blade but still end up using wire
>cutters to trim stray strands. The people at the local speed shop use a
>floor mounted shear and that leaves even more of a mess. And we all know
>what happens if it starts to unravel before we get the fitting head on.
>
>George Miller
>


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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:24:25 -0600
From: "Robert F. Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Identify this

Wayne,
Your transmission should be an E4OD, Ford began using this in their pickups
about 90 or 91. The easiest way to identify automatics is by their oil pan
shape & size. An E4OD oil pan is huge. It's rectangular in shape, about 16
or 18 in. long & about 10 or 12 in wide, & about 2 in deep. There ain't
nothing else like it as far as size. (other than an Allison). If you look
under your truck it looks almost as big as the engine oil pan.
Hope this helps.

"Beater" Bob Davis


At 09:53 PM 02/07/99 EST, you wrote:
>Gang,
>Here we go again. I have been having trouble identifying the trans. I have in
>my truck. The transmission code on the door sticker is "U". The only number
>that I have been able to find or see on my trans. is "RF-F4ZP-7006-AA". That
>number is located on the drivers side of the tranny just behind the shift
>linkage. I also have the stalk mounted OD off switch.
>The VIN # is 1FTEX15N1RKA19590 if that helps. I have tried to go up to the
>local for dealer and have them run the OASIS on it, but of course,
everytime I
>go up there the system is supposedly down. You can either post the answer or
>contact me off list.
>Thanks,
>Wayne Foy
>'94 Flareside Supercab
>"Hazardous Material"
> Wayne's Flareside Page
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:27:53 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: FTE Perf - 400 shorty headers

Here's some information I received from Stan at Ford Powertrain
www.fordpowertrain.com Might be good news for us M-block nuts. I had asked
him whether the headers for the 351C they are designing would fit a 400 in
4X4.

>The Cleveland and M series header flange is interchangeable, however the
>header must be built for the chasis in order to fit. F.P.A. is designing a
>shorty 3 51 Clev./M header that should fit most trucks due out in April.

>Thanks,

>Stan Johnson
>F.P.A.


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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:15:56 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line

George,

Have you tried a pipe cutter? I've never tried this, but it may work. I'd
still wrap it with tape, and maybe stuff a dowel or piece of tubing down
inside to support the hose.

Dave Baldwin

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From: George [mailto:mega55 lv.rmci.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 1999 6:05 PM
To: Ford Truck Performance List (E-mail)
Subject: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line


Has anybody found a not so secret way to cut these things? I wrap with
masking tape and use a 32 tooth hacksaw blade but still end up using wire
cutters to trim stray strands. The people at the local speed shop use a
floor mounted shear and that leaves even more of a mess. And we all know
what happens if it starts to unravel before we get the fitting head on.

George Miller

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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:07:44 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: FTE Perf - overheating???

Okay, here's the situation:

Start the truck up in the morning ... normal warm up cycle, engine runs a
barely in the normal range (normal for this truck the last few years) ...
drive it on the highway for about 10 miles, it gets all warm and toasty
inside and everyone's happy. Pull into town at the stoplight, warms a
touch, goes back to normal ... nothing outof the ordinary ... drive another
mile in town and it suddenly does an end run for the hot side ... stops
about half way up, sits ... then continues its run all the way to hot ...
sits there for a couple seconds (up to 10 or 15), then drops almost as
quickly as it went up back to the normal spot.... come up to another
stoplight ... sit at the light for a while ... everything is fine (normal),
as soon as I step on the gas the gauge starts to go up, then waits, then
runs to the end, sits and comes back ...

Anyone have any ideas ? Here were/are mine :

1) thermostat - replaced w/180 that works, no change
2) water pump - replaced with known good one, no change
3) radiator (old one leaky and smallish) - replaced with new one (over
sized for this motor) no change.

Ever hear of a bad sending unit doing this ? I dont' want to spend any
money on this motor because I have a 390 that should only be in the shop
for a week or so more (been saying that for a couple of weeks).

Thanks,
wish
73ish F-1?? 4x4 360-->390
96 Mustang GT

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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 15:33:52 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - overheating???

Consider the possibilty of air bubbles in the system. this will cause
similiar problems. Also, check belt tension. I ould have suspected the
thermostat as the culprit, but since you replaced that, don't know much
alse. Although there is one farfetched possibility. i have seen my 77 do
this multiple times, though it never effected the temperature so much as
the jose just came off, dumping coolant on the road.

Check the condition of the hoses, especially the lower hose to make sure
that it is not collapsing. a collapsing hose is not going to help any.
sometimes they come off from the vacuum collapsing them, but sometimes it
just restricts flow. i really doubt that this is the situation with your
truck at all, but it is something. when those springs inside get corroded
to fdar they just break apart and allow the hose to collapse. i vote for
the air in the system though.

sleddog

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From: William S Hart[SMTP:wish iastate.edu]
Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 3:07 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - overheating???

Anyone have any ideas ? Here were/are mine :

1) thermostat - replaced w/180 that works, no change
2) water pump - replaced with known good one, no change
3) radiator (old one leaky and smallish) - replaced with new one (over
sized for this motor) no change.

Ever hear of a bad sending unit doing this ? I dont' want to spend any
money on this motor because I have a 390 that should only be in the shop
for a week or so more (been saying that for a couple of weeks).




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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:50:37 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - overheating???

>Consider the possibilty of air bubbles in the system. this will cause
>similiar problems.

I warmed it up with the cap off to be sure all the air was circulating out
... is there something else I can do ?


> Also, check belt tension.

I can turn the motor over using the fan ... I think its okay ... :)

>Check the condition of the hoses, especially the lower hose to make sure
>that it is not collapsing. a collapsing hose is not going to help any.
> sometimes they come off from the vacuum collapsing them, but sometimes it
>just restricts flow.

Hmmm...I also doubt this, though the hose is getting old I will check it if
I get the chance.

Someone (a couple of people actually) have suggested a short in the wiring
... any thoughts ???

Bill
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:39:02 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line

I've been stuffing a rag inside of it but the dowel sounds like a better
idea. One of my remote oil filter lines developed a leak when the rubber at
the fitting finally deteriorated (seven years was pretty good service for
that piece, right next to the header) and I've started taking 1 1/2 " off
of each end of all my oil and fuel lines. A long dowel would provide
support for the short ends during what's a PITA process. Thanks.

George Miller

Have you tried a pipe cutter? I've never tried this, but it may work. I'd
still wrap it with tape, and maybe stuff a dowel or piece of tubing down
inside to support the hose.

Dave Baldwin

Subject: FTE Perf - Braided SS Line

Has anybody found a not so secret way to cut these things? I wrap with
masking tape and use a 32 tooth hacksaw blade but still end up using wire
cutters to trim stray strands. The people at the local speed shop use a
floor mounted shear and that leaves even more of a mess. And we all know
what happens if it starts to unravel before we get the fitting head on.



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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:09:28 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - overheating???

If you replace the sending unit/gauge, can't it be used on the 390? I don't
remember when ford went to the idiot light gauge (uses electrical current
to move the needle) but they do go bad. If yours is a true gauge; when the
engine's warm and you turn the ignition key off, the needle will stay in
place and drop as the engine cools.

Otherwise, I agree with sleddog as air in the system being the culprit.
Park it on a slight incline with the radiator end at the top of the grade,
take the cap off, bring it up to the thermostat cycle and 'burp' it by
squeezing the upper and lower hoses. You can also tell if the springs
inside the lower hose are collapsing at operating temp. .

Any chance of a bad head gasket?

George Miller


Ever hear of a bad sending unit doing this ? I dont' want to spend any
money on this motor because I have a 390 that should only be in the shop
for a week or so more (been saying that for a couple of weeks).

Thanks,
wish


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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:11:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: A.R.E Tonneau covers and truck caps

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