perf-list-digest Wednesday, February 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 027



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Re: FTE Perf - electric fans
Re: FTE Perf - electric fans
RE: FTE Perf - ADMIN: 1 Million visitors
RE: FTE Perf - ADMIN: 1 Million visitors
Re: FTE Perf - electric fans
Re: FTE Perf - electric fans

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:05:49 -0600
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - electric fans

>>2.Should I use electric fans ? I have two FLex-a-lite M110/120 fans.

>I don't know if this will help, but in my '62 F100 w/ 351C, I discarded
>the mechanical fan and use a single elctric (large) from an (ugh!) IROCZ
>(set up as a "pusher"). It works great, running right at 180-190 all year

Here's a question for you with the electric fans ... how did you decide
what size you needed? Seems like Steve got his from a Turbo Coupe and
something else, and you got one from an IROC, still others have bought them
... what are the advantages/disadvantages and how did you decide ?

I was guessing that I would want 1 or 2 so that they would cover the entire
width of the radiator (being a down flow radiator and all), but I guess
with a shroud I could probably get away with slightly less than that ???

I'd love to go to the electric fans, but also need to weigh the costs of it ...


Thanks,
wish
73ish F-1?? 4x4 360-->390
96 Mustang GT

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:38:00 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - electric fans

Thanks for your message at 04:05 PM 2/2/99 -0600, William S Hart. Your
message was:
>>>2.Should I use electric fans ? I have two FLex-a-lite M110/120 fans.
>
>>I don't know if this will help, but in my '62 F100 w/ 351C, I discarded
>>the mechanical fan and use a single elctric (large) from an (ugh!) IROCZ
>>(set up as a "pusher"). It works great, running right at 180-190 all year
>
>Here's a question for you with the electric fans ... how did you decide
>what size you needed? Seems like Steve got his from a Turbo Coupe and
>something else, and you got one from an IROC, still others have bought them
>... what are the advantages/disadvantages and how did you decide ?


>
>I'd love to go to the electric fans, but also need to weigh the costs of
it ...
>
You hit the nail on the head and answered your own question about how I
decided--I was able to trade my neighbor Levi out of it, thus eliminating
the cost. I haven't actually measured it, but I'd guess it's about 13
inches across. It doesn't cover the entire width of the radiator, but
most of it...Didn't need a shroud...I just installed it, tried it out,
watching the temp gauge very closely (still do, in fact, it got to be a
habit) and decided it was doing the job. As someone posted earlier, at
anything over 35 mph the fan is not doing any good, anyway, just dragging
on the engine revs.


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:51:58 -0600
From: "Baldwin, Dave"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ADMIN: 1 Million visitors

Ken,

Gosh! What's next? Are you going to start an ISP? How about "fordspring"
or "fordcom". Maybe FOL? :^)

Congrats! You've done some seriously awesome work here.

Regards,
Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX


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Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: 1 Million visitors


Hi gang!

Its official! Just compiled the January logs and we
had our one millionth visitor to the Ford Truck
Enthusiasts web site late in the month. In our first
year, we had slightly over 100,000 visitors and over
900,000 in the second year.
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:47:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ADMIN: 1 Million visitors

At 06:51 PM 2/2/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Ken,
>
>Gosh! What's next? Are you going to start an ISP? How about "fordspring"
>or "fordcom". Maybe FOL? :^)
>
>Congrats! You've done some seriously awesome work here.
>
>Regards,
>Dave Baldwin
>Dallas, TX
>

Thanks! I'm afraid that after all the hassles I've had
with ISPs, I wouldn't want to be in that business. We
are, however, planning on moving the server to our
home and maintaining an ADSL connection - traffic is
getting enormous.

hmmmmmmm.... maybe I'll start a Chevy Truck ISP and give
them nothing but busy signals!

Ken

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:21:08 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - electric fans

Snip here, Snip there

You don't really have to go with a new fan. I pulled a junkyard fan(
actually it was sitting on the roof after someone else pulled the engine, zero
labor involved) a nice two speed unit about 16". I have the high speed set up
with a temp switch and the low speed on a switch inside the cab. As far as the
fan being needed at speed, after even 10-15 mph the fan doesn't come on at
all. I don't have the extra noise of the fan at idle and the front of the
engine looks good with only 4 little alen head bolts( I still want to get some
chrome ones ;)

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net

99 Contour SE Sport
63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.


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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:11:27 -0500
From: Bryan G Sheffler
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - electric fans

Wish,
When using electric fan(s), you want to cover the entire height of
the radiator core, meaning from top to bottom. Dual electric fans are
nice if you can fit them in. If you use dual fans, one can be set as the
primary cooling fan, and the other as an auxiliary fan hooked up to an
on/off switch or hooked with the wiring for the A/C to turn on when the
compressor kicks on. You could also hook the second fan up to a
temperature sensor from a late model car, so that it turns on
automatically when it hits the pre set temp for that sensor.
Airflow is important, so make sure you get the highest cfm rated fan
you can. Always use an adjustable temperature controller, the pre set
ones leave a lot to be desired (single fan systems). One of the benefits
of an electric fan is the elimination of the load placed on the water
pump bearing by the mechanical fan. There will be an increase in engine
efficiency since the motor doesn't have to turn the mechanical fan. They
are great in the winter, since they don't turn on until needed. Most
temperature controllers also have the capability to run after the engine
is shut off. Another benefit is that if you only have one accessory
belt, the fan will still work if you throw the belt (been there, done
that). My personal opinion, but I think they help to clean up the engine
bay. Hope this helps.

Bryan

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