perf-list-digest Sunday, January 24 1999 Volume 02 : Number 017



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore
[none]
FTE Perf - RE: FE CYL blocks
Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore
RE: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore
FTE Perf - Re: 370 engine
FTE Perf - Re: 370 engine

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 08:52:56 -0500
From: Jay Snyder
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore

>Please educate me to the particular configuration you are speaking of >(from
>Clifford). I also have a 300/6. The 300/6 has a 3" bore and a 3" stroke.
Is
>this considered a "long stroke" motor?

The 300 six has a 4" bore, and 3.98" stroke (nearly sq.) A 3x3 would
be 127 cu in.

J.
'87 F150 300 I6

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:51:19 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: [none]

William S Hart wrote:

>there's also over square and under square, but I can never
>remember if its the bore is longer on over or under...

Bigger bore is oversquare.

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 07:59:22 -0700
From: Drew Beatty
Subject: FTE Perf - RE: FE CYL blocks

Hi Steve:

You can drill out the hole where the oil first enters the block from the
pump. This hole is really a 1/2" hole, but the opening is usually only
3/8". You can also open up and angle the holes where the oil filter adapter
bolts up. This will give it better flow. Chamfer the holes on the crank
too. I got the info from the book "Ford Performance" by Pat Ganahl, S-A
Publishing, 1988. ISBN 0-931472-05-9. I'm pretty sure Mac's and Obsolete
Ford offer this book, but you ought to be able to get it locally or from
Amazon as well.

Sounds like a good project!!

Drew Beatty
dcbeatty rmi.net


>Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:52:59 -0800
>From: "Steven Salas"

>Hello All , I am currently building a 428 for my 69 F250 and I was
hoping
>that some of you experienced Fordophiles could point me in the right
>direction. This is my first HP ford engine(I used to be a ch*vy guy but I
>finally saw the light). I understand that there are some things that you
>can do the oiling system in the FE blocks to make them live longer. I am
>using the 105 block and have a set of CJ rods and a 1UB crank,my next
>purchases will include forged pistons a fliudamper and probably a set of
>Edelbrock performer alum. heads. With the amount of money I have involved
in
>this project I am looking to make sure this motor will live for a good
>while. If any one could ad any info to this project,I'm sure this list
>could help. My ears are open. Thanks in advance! Steve

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 99 07:15:35 PST
From: "Doug Ridder"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore

Also the only other ford motors to come from the factory with a stroke =
this long were the 410 and 428 FE motors with a 3.98 stroke and the 400 =
modified with the 4" stroke. As far as I am concerned for a stock motor =
this would be considered a long stroke.

Doug

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>
> the term long stroke, and short stroke, only mean something when you =
are
> comparing one to another for the most part. sure, a 4.500" stroke is =
long,
> and a 2.750 would be short. but at 4" it is not really long or short
> unless you are comparing it to another engine. it is long compared to =
most
> other engines in the same CID range. but this is not the only reason =
the
> 300-6 is known as a torque engine. all other factors help it reach tha=
t
> end also, like cam, heads, intake, etc.
>
> sleddog
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> From: WJeff43 AOL.COM[SMTP:WJeff43 AOL.COM]
> Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 10:28 PM
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore
>
> You are correct. I looked it up and it's actually 4.00 X 3.98, which =
is
> essentially 4" X 4". I know this is considered a "square" configuratio=
n,
> but
> is it considered to be a long-stroke motor? Mine has very little
> perceptable
> power in any rpm range, and runs out of breath quickly. It must make =

> pretty
> good torque though, because no matter how much weight you load into the
> bed,
> the only difference you can tell is the gas milage goes down.
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:13:40 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore

ok, for stock engines maybe. many GM engines are where 4" and over stroke,
and if you look at alot of the straight 8,6,4 cylinder engines, or the
other configurations expecially from the days when valvetrain couldn't take
the rpms the 4" stroke really isn't long. and it ain't long compared to
the big strokes aftermarket cranks can provide either.

sleddog

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From: Doug Ridder[SMTP:ridder socket.net]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 1999 10:15 AM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Stroke vs. Bore

Also the only other ford motors to come from the factory with a stroke this
long were the 410 and 428 FE motors with a 3.98 stroke and the 400 modified
with the 4" stroke. As far as I am concerned for a stock motor this would
be considered a long stroke.

Doug



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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:21:16 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: 370 engine

On Fri, 22 Jan 99 11:03:32 PST, "Doug Ridder" wrote:
>
> If you need a 4 bolt cap I just purchased a set of 4-bolt caps to convert=
> a D1ve block to 4 bolts. I tried the main cap girdle last year and wasn=
> 't very happy with the results as I was seeing quite a bit of main walkin=
> g on numbers 2 and 4 with the girdle after only 20 - 30 passes at 7600 =
> - - 8400 rpms. I am not sure that these 4-bolt caps will be much better =
> but I am sure that they cannot be any worse. I bought my set from Engine=
> Systems, they are blue thunder caps and cost $350.00 for the set of 3. =

Wow, I was under the impression that a 2 bolt block couldn't be machined
for 4 bolt. I also have a D1VE block and now that I have set my mind on
a separate daily driver and 4x toy I am thinking more performance. Tell
me more about the 4 bolt deal.

Birken
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:24:27 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: 370 engine

On Fri, 22 Jan 99 06:19:06 PST, "Doug Ridder" wrote:
>
> It was produced exclusively for the big 2 ton and up trucks. =
> so it has all the same charistics of any other Truck motor. Beefier cyl=
> inder walls and a steel crank.

Are you sure it has a steel crank? If so, if the journal diameters were
the same, it would seem to make a great crank for my 429.

Birken
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