perf-list-digest Wednesday, June 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 140



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In this issue:

Re: FTE Perf - 0.40 over
Re: FTE Perf - .60 over??
Re: FTE Perf - FTE PERF - Header question
FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start
Re: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start
Re: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start
Re: FTE Perf - FTE PERF - Header question
FTE Perf - headlights blinking
Re: FTE Perf - .60 over??

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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:09:07 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 0.40 over

Thanks, that was the only part I didn't understand. I knew PI fit in there
somewhere, but the .7854 threw me a little.
Ed Saunders 86 F-150 308 : )

"Robert F. Davis" wrote:

> At 08:24 AM 06/07/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >What would the formula be for a .040 over 302?
> >Thanks
> >Ed Saunders 86 F-150 302
> >
> The formula stays the same. ie; (Bore x Bore x Stroke x # of cyls x .7854)
>
> The .7854 is one fourth of PI. but to me, .7854 is much easier to remember
> since those numbers are in the upper LH corner of the keypad & clockwise
> to boot.
>
> SO a 302 Ford (and some others) that is .040" OS is:
>
> 4.040" x 4.040" x 3" x 8 x.7854 = 307.6556 cu.in.
> (or almost 308, which happens to be one of my favorite calibers).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> "Beater" Bob
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:16:50 -0500
From: Edward Saunders
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - .60 over??

(4.060/2 ^2 * PI) 3.50 * 8 = 362 or 363 if you round up

CRGREENE1 AOL.COM wrote:

> So...what would be the displacement of a 351 if its bored .060??
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:31:15 -0500
From: William S Hart
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - FTE PERF - Header question

>I have two questions about headers. First, a friend of mine has an 84 F-150
>w/ a set of headers. The headers are close to ten years old. He asked me if
>headers ever wore out? I told him i didn't know but i'd ask, so do they? :)
>Second, do "header wraps" really work? And what exactly to they help? Thanks
>in advance...
>--

Well they don't really have any moving parts to "wear out", but the gaskets
can burn out of them, along with rust being a major problem in the midwest.
If he has stainless or ceramic coated, I would guess he'll have them for
quite a long while before this becomes a problem.

As for the wraps, I've heard in moist climates they can acutually cause
problems because they will trap moisture and cause the rust that I
mentioned above ... surface rust is okay, but once it gets very deep you
have problems ...


Just my 2cents

wish

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:34:14 -0600 (MDT)
From: Ryan Minihan
Subject: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start

Hi all,
I just got my 360 put back together in my 68 F-250 4x4. I am having
difficulty starting the beast. I'm getting spark, and fuel and
compression. With the distributor turned all the way torwards the drivers
side, the truck pukes and backfires through the carb. All other positions
it does nothing. I followed the instructions in the book for installing a
distributor after the motor has been disturbed. Anyone have any ideas? I
don't want to put out another carb fire anytime soon. (Brand new
Edelbrock 750. Yeah yeah, 750 is to big for a 360, but in about 6 months
this will be a supercharged 427. ;-)) Thanks in advance for the help.


Ryan Minihan

ryan qwk.net

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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:01:55 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start

Distributor's in wrong. Might be 180 deg. off or just a couple of teeth but
it's definitely in wrong. If you followed all of the instructions you may
have put it in on TDC of the exhaust stroke instead of the power stroke.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Ryan Minihan
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:52 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start


>Hi all,
>I just got my 360 put back together in my 68 F-250 4x4. I am having
>difficulty starting the beast. I'm getting spark, and fuel and
>compression. With the distributor turned all the way torwards the drivers
>side, the truck pukes and backfires through the carb. All other positions
>it does nothing. I followed the instructions in the book for installing a
>distributor after the motor has been disturbed. Anyone have any ideas? I
>don't want to put out another carb fire anytime soon. (Brand new
>Edelbrock 750. Yeah yeah, 750 is to big for a 360, but in about 6 months
>this will be a supercharged 427. ;-)) Thanks in advance for the help.
>
>
>Ryan Minihan
>
>ryan qwk.net
>
>P.S. I'm using digest mode, so if anyone has a quick response, could they
>please cc it to my address as well so that I will get it sooner?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:21:39 GMT
From: Joe Swinko
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start

If your distributor is off by a tooth or two it will do this. Heres how to
fix:

1.take the cap off and mark the location of the rotor thing with white out
on the body of the dist.

2.take out the hold down and the distributor (be shure not to rotate engine)

3.try to move over a tooth or two in the opposite direction of where it is
hitting

4. once you get the dist. back down, turn the body until the rotor is lined
up with your mark. You should have some more room to turn it now

5.make sure you tighten down the dist. hold down

hope it works! (it did on a 351w)

Joe Swinko


>From: Ryan Minihan
>Reply-To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
>To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE Perf - 360 Won't Start
>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:34:14 -0600 (MDT)
>
>Hi all,
>I just got my 360 put back together in my 68 F-250 4x4. I am having
>difficulty starting the beast. I'm getting spark, and fuel and
>compression. With the distributor turned all the way torwards the drivers
>side, the truck pukes and backfires through the carb. All other positions
>it does nothing. I followed the instructions in the book for installing a
>distributor after the motor has been disturbed. Anyone have any ideas? I
>don't want to put out another carb fire anytime soon. (Brand new
>Edelbrock 750. Yeah yeah, 750 is to big for a 360, but in about 6 months
>this will be a supercharged 427. ;-)) Thanks in advance for the help.
>
>
>Ryan Minihan
>
>ryan qwk.net
>
>P.S. I'm using digest mode, so if anyone has a quick response, could they
>please cc it to my address as well so that I will get it sooner?
>
>
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>


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Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:36:26 -0700
From: George Miller
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - FTE PERF - Header question

William S Hart wrote:
>
> >I have two questions about headers. First, a friend of mine has an 84 F-150
> >w/ a set of headers. The headers are close to ten years old. He asked me if
> >headers ever wore out? I told him i didn't know but i'd ask, so do they? :)
> >Second, do "header wraps" really work? And what exactly to they help? Thanks
> >in advance...
> >--
>
> Well they don't really have any moving parts to "wear out", but the gaskets
> can burn out of them, along with rust being a major problem in the midwest.
> If he has stainless or ceramic coated, I would guess he'll have them for
> quite a long while before this becomes a problem.
>
> As for the wraps, I've heard in moist climates they can acutually cause
> problems because they will trap moisture and cause the rust that I
> mentioned above ... surface rust is okay, but once it gets very deep you
> have problems ...
>
> Just my 2cents
>
> wish

I've had the same set of Hedman Heders, plain steel, no coatings, on a
modified 460 for over 12 years. Collector gasket replacement and a
couple of welds on small holes total maintenance/repairs. That included
five years in WA State with 112" of annual rain/snow and three years in
Northern Idaho with deep winter snow and spring mud.

I agree with wish; wrapping just provides moisture retaing pockets to
grow rust.

George Miller
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:47:24 EDT
From: FLR150 AOL.COM
Subject: FTE Perf - headlights blinking

Gang,
I am having a problem with the headlights on my truck. After running the
headlights for a short period of time, the headlights start to flicker on and
off, no other running lights or tail lights, just the headlight beams
themselves. I have checked for loose wires and ground outs, I have also
checked for possible relays that could be bad, but I cant find any relays in
the harnesses. Besides I figure that if it was a relay, ALL the lights
connected to the switch and it would be flashing, not JUST the headlights. I
am at my wits end with this problem. I have tried all I could before coming
to the list....HELP!!!
I am also having a problem with my airbag light flashing in the dash. It is
flashing a 32 code if that means anything, in conjunction with this, my
cruise has stopped working also.
Later
Wayne Foy
'94 Flareside SC
"Hazardous Material"
Wayne's Page
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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:54:11 EDT
From: CRGREENE1 AOL.COM
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - .60 over??

Sorry guys, this may be a stupid question...but is .60 the highest bore you
can go with it still being a "reliable" truck?....


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