perf-list-digest Sunday, November 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 134



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FTE Perf - 430?
FTE Perf - ?430?
RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:14:13 -0600
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L. Ballinger)
Subject: FTE Perf - 430?

The 430 is from the MEL (Mercury Edsel Lincoln) series. The design is a
lot like an FE in many ways, but alot heavier. The heads have flat
decks (Heron style) with the chambers in the pistons like a
W-series(348-409) Chevy. They were torquey, but not really fast, because
they rev really slow because of the heavier pistons. They don't have
any performance potential, becaue no one made anything for it. And
nothing from the FE interchanges.

When I was a kid my dad and uncle helped a guy ( I helped a little by
keeping everyone in beer and tools) put a 462 (which is the same design)
in a '57 Ford Fairlane. You talk about learning a few four-letter
words. The poor springs just weren't up to the task either, so it
immediately had a nose-down attitude, along with zero-traction. My dad
tried to talk him into just hopping up his 312, but nooooo. It really
pissed the guy off when my dad beat him with his 312 (ECZ headed with a
4bbl Holley and what they used to call a 3/4 race cam) '55 Fairlane.(I
used to dream of owning that car and putting a 428CJ and C-6 in it.)

If you were restoring an old Merc, Edsel or Lincoln then it might be
worth going for, but I wouldn't fool with it otherwise.--
Come on over to my Back Porch
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Ballinger
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:55:48 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?

They're listed at that site in the specs section. The 462 was used in
Lincoln Limos through '69. Rebuild parts from Kanter and a couple others
who advertise in Hemmings and Auto Trader. Little tricks? Good luck. They
lived in the shadow of the FE.

George Miller

know nothing about them, but my own opinion would be that they are
forgotten for a reason. maybe not a good reason (they may be a great
engine) but where do you get parts at a decent price, where can you find
someone who knows anything about them like all the little tricks that are
known for SBC and 5.0's and such.

you may want to search for a guru of these engines, but where i don't know.

couldn't even find it at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/

sleddog

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From: Don Grossman[SMTP:duckdon pacific.net]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:30 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - ?430?



Sleddog wrote:

> ok, thanks.
>
> just another forgotten engine in detroit history i suppose.
>
> sleddog
>
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> From: George[SMTP:mega55 lv.rmci.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 2:05 PM
> To: Ford Truck Performance List (E-mail)
> Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?
>
> That's the one. The 430/462 were commonly Lincoln power until the 385
> series 460 bumped them. Think the 383/430 were also Edsel designated
> engines. Haven't heard of performance parts for them.
>
> George Miller
>
> what engine is that? is the the MEL series?
>
> sleddog
>

Are they worth the steel they are cast with or should I let it get melted
down?

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Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:00:32 -0800
From: Vogt Family
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Sleddog wroteL
>
> i know nothing about them, but my own opinion would be that they are
> forgotten for a reason. maybe not a good reason (they may be a great
> engine) but where do you get parts at a decent price, where can you find
> someone who knows anything about them like all the little tricks that are
> known for SBC and 5.0's and such.
>
> you may want to search for a guru of these engines, but where i don't know.
>
> couldn't even find it at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/

They used to have a section and they kept promising that they would put
up some info soon but they never did and finally got rid of that
section.

As far as melting it down goes, if it's cheap I say take it, but then I
am a pack rat and my rationalization for this would be it is preserving
rare Detroit history. I did see one of these in an early 60s Ford car
that was almost restored.

Birken
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