FTE Perf - Proportioning valve, update

perf-list-digest Saturday, October 31 1998 Volume 01 : Number 133

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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Proportioning valve, update
FTE Perf - ?430?
FTE Perf - 300/I6 perf, PLD V1 #131
RE: FTE Perf - ?430?
FTE Perf - ADMIN: New offroad truck list
FTE Perf - ?430?
RE: FTE Perf - ?430?
Re: FTE Perf - ?430?
RE: FTE Perf - ?430?
RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:13:51 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: FTE Perf - Proportioning valve, update

Ok I was close but no cigar :-( Mine looked like it was trash so I pulled and
pulled and pulled and got the kanootin valve out and of course parts went
flying all over the barn. I think I found them all so here goes:

It is a disk valve BUT........the inlets to the wheels are above the disk not
under it like I thought. Pedal pressure pushes the disk off it's seat and allows
fluid to the wheels and takes about 50# of pressure to do it.

The residual part is more complicated.......the disk has a recess on the
bottom which has a rubber gasket or washer in it to seal a bunch of holes like
in a bathroom faucet defuser. The rubber covers the whole thing but the
hole in the bottom of the cylinder only covers half of each hole in the disk so
part of it is open to the MC inlet. Apparently what restricts the return is the
pressure of the rubber against the holes and the bottom of the cylinder and
the stiffness of the rubber resists being pushed away easily. There is also a
little brass cup with a spring pushing it against the rubber from the bottom to
completely close off the openings from the bottom when pressure is applied
which force the whole assy up to access the wheel inlets.

Anyway, it looks like it might take considerable pressure to overcome the
return kanootin, maybe 100-200# and the chamber the two wheel inlets are in
does not separate them like I thought so a second axle hose would be
useless. Hope no one ordered one yet :-(

Now that I've taken it appart it may not work and I think my switch detent
thingy is frozen solid in there anyway but the valving may work, not sure.
I'm going to try it anyway and see what happens. Sure am dissapointed
about the separate wheel thing though, darn :-( I wonder what would happen
if I used two propor.......................:-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumpin Bronco lover, -- Gary --
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:56:42 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?

Hey there

I am looking for more information about the Ford 430 engine and
related family. I might have located one and wanted to know if it would
be worth the effort to check it out.

Thanks

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duckdon

hhs.state.ne.us (Chad Dailey)
Subject: FTE Perf - 300/I6 perf, PLD V1 #131

Bill--

The only place I know of that has mucho performance stuff for sixes is
Clifford Performance. Check the links page, I think there is one
there. CP is not cheap, but they specialize on sixes. I know that
Offenhauser made a 4bbl manifold for the six for a while.

Good luck,

Chad

>Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:19:00 EST
>From: WJeff43

aol.com
>Subject: FTE Perf - 300/6
>
>Anyone know of any high performance parts for the 300 cid in-line 6? If=
I
>look for a replacement 300/6, are the mount bolts the same for all of =
them, or
>did Ford change the engine and bell housing/transmission mounting =
patterns
>through the years? I know Ford made this engine for a very long time. =
The
>one I have right now is a 1979 model. Bill Jeffreys

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:06:19 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

what engine is that? is the the MEL series?

sleddog

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 8:56 AM
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Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?

Hey there

I am looking for more information about the Ford 430 engine and
related family. I might have located one and wanted to know if it would
be worth the effort to check it out.

Thanks

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duckdon

pacific.net
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ICQ# 19575234

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:52:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: New offroad truck list

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:05:55 -0800
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?

That's the one. The 430/462 were commonly Lincoln power until the 385
series 460 bumped them. Think the 383/430 were also Edsel designated
engines. Haven't heard of performance parts for them.

George Miller

what engine is that? is the the MEL series?

sleddog

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 2:05 PM
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Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?

That's the one. The 430/462 were commonly Lincoln power until the 385
series 460 bumped them. Think the 383/430 were also Edsel designated
engines. Haven't heard of performance parts for them.

George Miller

what engine is that? is the the MEL series?

sleddog

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:30:53 -0800
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - ?430?

Sleddog wrote:

> ok, thanks.
>
> just another forgotten engine in detroit history i suppose.
>
> sleddog
>
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> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 2:05 PM
> To: Ford Truck Performance List (E-mail)
> Subject: FTE Perf - ?430?
>
> That's the one. The 430/462 were commonly Lincoln power until the 385
> series 460 bumped them. Think the 383/430 were also Edsel designated
> engines. Haven't heard of performance parts for them.
>
> George Miller
>
> what engine is that? is the the MEL series?
>
> sleddog
>

Are they worth the steel they are cast with or should I let it get melted
down?

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duckdon

pacific.net
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ICQ# 19575234

63 F-100 4x4 with 3/4 ton running gear and most of the trimmings.

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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:06:26 -0500
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

i know nothing about them, but my own opinion would be that they are
forgotten for a reason. maybe not a good reason (they may be a great
engine) but where do you get parts at a decent price, where can you find
someone who knows anything about them like all the little tricks that are
known for SBC and 5.0's and such.

you may want to search for a guru of these engines, but where i don't know.

couldn't even find it at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/

sleddog

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: FTE Perf - ?430?

Sleddog wrote:

> ok, thanks.
>
> just another forgotten engine in detroit history i suppose.
>
> sleddog
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 22:17:59 -0500
From: "J. Whited"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - ?430?

>i know nothing about them, but my own opinion would be that they are
>forgotten for a reason. maybe not a good reason (they may be a great
>engine) but where do you get parts at a decent price, where can you find
>someone who knows anything about them like all the little tricks that are
>known for SBC and 5.0's and such.
>
>you may want to search for a guru of these engines, but where i don't know.
>
>couldn't even find it at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wrljet.com/engines/
>
>sleddog....

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