perf-list-digest Wednesday, October 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 123



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Heads
Re: FTE Perf - Headers
RE: FTE Perf - Heads
FTE Perf - Headers
Re: FTE Perf - Headers
FTE Perf - Piston Rings
FTE Perf - Intake Discolouration
FTE Perf - ADMIN: Give us your favorite web site addresses
RE: FTE Perf - Piston Rings

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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:56:43 -0400
From: "The Freeman Family"
Subject: FTE Perf - Heads

I have a chance to pick up a set of 390GT heads. Do these heads flow better
than the stock ones and what about the older pre-'65 352 heads? Can you put
CJ valves in them?
Thanks!


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:21:35 +0000
From: Garr&Pam
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Headers

my L&L's are stainless coated, but rusty now. my stainless pipes on my
motorcyle have lettle rust, but stainless offers another problem.
anywhere you touch them, you must clean with a solvent to remove the
oils. where there is oils, there will be discoloration. usually blue.
the blue can be removed, but better to be careful first.

I wouldn't ever buy anything coated....bassani and borla are made from
stainless inside out...not sure what bassani's warranty is but I know
borla is 10 million miles...needless to say thats forever! And I am sure
bassani is just as confident in thier products as well! Coated headers
will still rust out form the inside but fully stainless just does not
rust! We are all driving Fords how often do you need to touch your
headers!(HEHE)
Chris
94 Lightning

Try bassani...not sure if they carry anything for old trucks, maybe
borla....they both are made of 100% stainless steel!
Chris
94 Lightning #381
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:15:16 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Heads

i am not real familiar with the fe heads, but i don't see why you can't put
larger valves in them, as long as there is enough piston and enough bore
clearance at the cam size you will be using.

sleddog

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 6:56 AM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Heads


I have a chance to pick up a set of 390GT heads. Do these heads flow
better
than the stock ones and what about the older pre-'65 352 heads? Can you
put
CJ valves in them?
Thanks!


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:37:57 -0500
From: "Dale and Donna Carmine"
Subject: FTE Perf - Headers

Raymond said;
>I am running a 340 HP 352 in my 67 F250 C/S with a high-perf 3" exhaust
>(single exhaust due to saddle tank) with a FlowMaster muffler (this was a
>great improvement over the stock exhaust!). Would I benefit from a set of
>headers, or am I better off just running the stock exhaust manifolds? I
>only use the truck to pull a 6500 lb horse trailer and pull up into the
>mountains frequently.

Raymond and all,
The 3" single exhaust with a flowmaster is the same set-up that I'm going to
put on my '79 351M. I've seen several posts about flowmaster but no one
mentions which one, two chamber?, three chamber?, big block? I'm ready to
order parts and I definitely don't want the truck to be too loud so I'm
leaning toward the three chamber. I'd like to hear about your experience
and which particular muffler you're running.

later,
dale c


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:21:43 -0500
From: "Nils Gore"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Headers

Dale wrote:

>The 3" single exhaust with a flowmaster is the same set-up that I'm going
to
>put on my '79 351M. I've seen several posts about flowmaster but no one
>mentions which one, two chamber?, three chamber?, big block? I'm ready to
>order parts and I definitely don't want the truck to be too loud so I'm
>leaning toward the three chamber. I'd like to hear about your experience
>and which particular muffler you're running.

I'm in the same boat:

I need to put a new dual exhaust system on my 64 F100 with its new 5.0L EFI
motor. I want good low frequency, rumbly sound; but not TOO loud. Nor do I
want them too quiet. My 73 has stock mufflers and it sounds anemic. I don't
like the sound of glasspacks. They're too harsh for my ear; like the muffler
case is about to split open.

My dad has driven Ford trucks forever. He said he used to put on Porter
steelpack mufflers (even on a 1930 Model A back in the 50's!). My memory is
that they sounded real good on his trucks.

I heard a guy in a D**ge Ram take off the other day; it sounded pretty good.
When I saw him again, I asked him what kind of mufflers he had. He said,
"None. Straight pipes." Surprised the socks off of me! But I don't feel
comfortable trying that...:)

I've done some searching for Porter mufflers and have had no luck.
Flowmaster has been recommended by several people, but which series? Can
anyone describe the Flowmaster sound in the terms I've used above?

Appreciate anyone's opinion,

Nils Gore

64 F100
73 F100
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:16:26 -0700
From: Jim Craig
Subject: FTE Perf - Piston Rings

How about a reccomendation on a manufacturer of piston rings? They will go
on a set of Keith Black pistons (KB206+.o3o") and used primarialy for
commuting i.e., no towing and rare?? stoplight races. No nitrous or water
injection at this time. I have heard good things about Sealed Power, and
am also looking into Speed Pro Plasma Moly Rings for around $60.

Jimbo
'77 Supercab 466
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:55:53 -0400
From: "Mr. Paul R. Boudreault"
Subject: FTE Perf - Intake Discolouration

I would
simply suggest painting it with a good high temperature clear paint or keep
it coated with a fine silicone based oil. silicone is just about impossible
to remove from a surface and will last a long time with very few
reapplication. painting it may start to discolor after a few months and it
will not be easy to remove. if you was aware of this prior to installing it
you could have done what they call anodizing or chromate conversion coating
that turns the outer layer of the aluminum into an aluminum oxide coating
(ceramic) that will last forever. the coatings come in all kinds of colors
including clear. the cost is not all that much and any aluminum coating
house can do it. it is very easily applied and can be masked where you don't
need it. if you have ever seen Enki wheels, the gold centers of them, you
have seen gold colored anodizing before. I am surprised many times by the
number of performance products that don't take the time to treat the
aluminum alloys like they should. but then when you work in the aerospace
industry, like I do, we pay more attention to these things.

Scott


Does this also work on carbs, or what do you recommend? (I have a new
intake for my 351M and carb to install in the new year. I would like to
"clear coat" both of them for this reason.)

Any draw backs on coating the carb?

Any info is appreciated.

"Paul"
Mr. Paul R. Boudreault
79 Ford Bronco.


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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:59:03 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE Perf - ADMIN: Give us your favorite web site addresses

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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:09:00 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Piston Rings

i have run sealed power in my last 2 engines, and i have good luck with them so far. the 1st set was a standard set, last set was file fit.

bore was a bit on the edge on both engines (large), so the first set had a bit large gap, but so far so good.

i think that at the level of a street engine, any well known brand is ok, but i have been known to be wrong....

sleddog

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From: Jim Craig[SMTP:jcraig nations.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 10:16 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Piston Rings

How about a reccomendation on a manufacturer of piston rings? They will go
on a set of Keith Black pistons (KB206+.o3o") and used primarialy for
commuting i.e., no towing and rare?? stoplight races. No nitrous or water
injection at this time. I have heard good things about Sealed Power, and
am also looking into Speed Pro Plasma Moly Rings for around $60.

Jimbo
'77 Supercab 466
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