perf-list-digest Friday, September 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 099



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In this issue:

RE: FTE Perf - Inital Engine Startup after rebuild.
RE: FTE Perf - Cam break-in - Now Seating Rings
FTE Perf - Cam/Engine Break in
Re: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears
FTE Perf - Test
RE: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears
FTE Perf - SVO 460

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:51:15 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Inital Engine Startup after rebuild.

at my level, preventative maintainance is important. cahnging springs
means they have a less chance of breaking, destroying the whole engine.

changing bearings is the same type of thing. still considereing if i
should remove eninge and do a whole tear down, or just do the bearings in
the mains, and some other stuf leaving the heads and block in truck. i
want to change my bearings as i think i was running too low oil pressure,
and also want to put in alf grooves to hepl keeop the oil pressure up.
details on my web site under the how'd ya do page.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 10:20 AM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Inital Engine Startup after rebuild.

From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Inital Engine Startup after rebuild.
Date sent: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:46:02 -0400

> problem, is do i replace the springs? or wait tilll they break, requi
ring
> possible a whole engine rebuild including pistons, rods, crank, block,
> etc.

I have no racing experience but my experience with springs tends to say
they
will either break or not depending on the original heat treatment process.
If
they survived his hammering chances are they won't "ever" break but I'd
check the spring pressure at what ever compression height you need to
check and make sure they all are close to what you need because they can
lose their strength over time which usuallly means they also lose some
length
or take a set. If you inspected them for strength and length before
installing
them you should be OK but I only know one person capable of predicting
the outcome for a certainty and he aint on this list :-)


A son-in-law only takes part of a daughter away,
Dad keeps the best part :-)

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:32:36 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Cam break-in - Now Seating Rings

From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Cam break-in - Now Seating Rings
Date sent: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:52:19 -0400

> oems use the iron for a longer break in period (safer)
> moly is faster, when the bore is honed correctly. problem with moly is
> that it is also just as easy to screw up, burnishing the cylinder wall and
> ring - never getting ring seal.
>
> imagine if a race engine took 15,000 miles to break in like a stock engine
> from the manufacturer. mark martin would be driving all winter long to
> break in next years engine! moly is hard, and maybe that is why it
> "finishes machining the bore" so quickly. and yes, it does hold oil
> better.
>
> sleddog
>
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> From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:36 AM
> To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Cam break-in - Now Seating Rings
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> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Cam break-in - Now Seating Rings
> Date sent: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:19:20 -0400
>
> > iron takes forever to break in, moly(and moly coated) should break in in
> > the first few minutes AFAIK.
>
> Ever try to machine Molybdenum? Only material I know of that's tougher is
> pure Tungsten (I've ground both). Moly has good porosity for oil control
> and is very tough which are the two main reasons they use it I believe.
> The
> instructions I got with my moly rings and the text book both said they are
> hard to break in compared to cast iron rings but easier than chrome. They
> also specified a very narrow cross hatch ranges and grit size for proper
> preparation of the cylinder walls. It's been 15 years since I built that
> engine and took that class so I could be mistaken but that's how my old,
> beat up brain is remembering it??
>
> A son-in-law only takes part of a daughter away,
> Dad keeps the best part :-)
>
> -- Gary --
>
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:46:53 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: FTE Perf - Cam/Engine Break in

Hey guys,

Thanks for all of the info on breaking in cams and engines. It has been
very helpful!

Later
Keith Srb

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:51:20 EDT
From: A4T1RAT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears

The SVO kit does use the E4OD parts.. I have done this kit a few times.. I
have 4 spare E4OD trans's and I can tell you that the kit is the easy way to
go It comes with all the stuff you need. If you were to get the parts out of a
old E40D you might not get all the good parts... ie some of them did'nt use
roller berrings they used thrust washers and some of those were plastic so I
would go with the kit much better way to go .. The kit is great and make a big
differance .
Gordon



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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:13:56 -0700
From: George
Subject: FTE Perf - Test

Test, please ignore.

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:48:37 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears

that's what i heard too.

sleddog


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From: Keith Srb[SMTP:herbie ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 2:52 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears

Forwarded for George Miller

From: George
To: "'perf-list ford-trucks.com'"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:41:31 -0700

I'm also waiting to hear an answer on this one. The SVO catalog states =
that the wide ration C6 kits use current production 7.5 E4OD trans =
components. Any C6/E4OD experts out there?

George Miller

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>From: Vogt Family[SMTP:vogt oro.net]
>Sent: Saturday, September 19, 1998 9:44 PM
>To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE Perf - C6 Wide Gears
>
>Well, it is about time to start thinking about putting the wide gears
>into my C6. Being of the limited finances, I was wondering if it would
>be worth my time to find a defunct E4OD or if I pretty much have to go
>with the SVO kit?
>
>Birken
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:54:18 -0700
From: "Tom Ewing"
Subject: FTE Perf - SVO 460

Thanks for your responses on the SVO 460 crate motor I was considering.
After
reading and thinking, I'll probably just rebuild the 429. I've got a few
parts around
already if the block is shown to be useable, etc. I've got an Edelbrock 750
carb as
well as their Performer RPM intake. I spoke with Edelbrock Tech today, and
I
understand that they will soon(a few months) have an aluminum head for the
429-460 motors. If I build this motor to say about 435hp naturally
aspirated, can
I use the existing Dana 44 differential, or should I not waste time and
money
and just go for the Ford 9 inch from the outset. I don't want to use the
Dana 44
and maybe even add a locker, new rear wheels, and whatever just to have it
go
prematurely. If I go for the Ford 9 inch, I guess? I will need to look in a
salvage
yard for a unit with discs as well, and a width I can use with the 58F100.
Any
suggestions?
Tom
All grown up still plays with trucks.

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