perf-list-digest Wednesday, June 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 004



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Performance parts for late model F150
FTE Perf - Re: 53 F250 motor
RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature
Re: FTE Perf - Advice on engine swap
RE: FTE Perf - 460 Cam
RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature
FTE Perf - FE cam

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:24:56 EDT
From: TCPFL aol.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Performance parts for late model F150

Hi all...
I'm looking for any information on performance parts for my new F150. Are
there even any part available for it yet? I bought a 1998 4x2 a few months
ago and would like to beef up the suspension by adding a rear sway bar and
harder bushings.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance...
Tom
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:08:14 -0400
From: "Neal B. Forbes"
Subject: FTE Perf - Re: 53 F250 motor

Hello Troy, I am interested in what you have as an original motor. Is it
a flattie or a Yblock? Either one, please don't just scrap it. Pull it
carefully (and the tranny) and sell it at a swap meet. The antiques are
getting harder to find for restorers, especially cast parts like manifolds.
Too many youngsters (no slam intended) are just junking the old parts and
forgetting about the rest of us (maybe we are antiques, too!) in the hobby
who need parts. Many times swap meets are the only places to find such
motors and those who buy always recycle unused parts thru the hobby for use
rather than the scrap yard for pig iron. Watch your paper or clubs for
local meets or if you really get crazy , you could go to a monster meet like
Carlisle. Swap meets also swap parts (duh!). No fear of getting gypped if
both parties are brother enthusiasts and come home with what they need for
their projects Please consider this approach to parts hounding and spread
the philosophy among your peers Thanks from all of us!!
Neal Forbes--54 F100, hot 292 YBlock

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:25:29 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:59:28 -0400

> i have found now a chart showing 170-175 as normal, but is cooler
> yet even better?

I'm guessing but I'd say if you keep it below the boiling point and
below it's flash point then hotter is better. 180 seems to be the
magic number from what I've read so far but another thing you could
try is a good synthetic ATF. I'm going to try AMSOIL soon in my
daughters truck and the bird. The info on this indicates that there
are some real advantages to it, flow, flash point, boiling point
etc..

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:46:19 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Advice on engine swap

> From: "Tom Oxner"
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:49:41 CST6CDT
> Subject: Re: FTE Perf - Advice on engine swap

> relatively cheap. Since you have an F-150 with the 460, does the big
> block use different motor mounts than the 302. I do not have a big
> block handy to look at to see how things are different. Once again,
> thanks for the information.

Ford has mounts for it but they are very expensive. All the guys
swear by the $99 L&L mounts which are the engine part and bolt
directly to the chassis part with no modification. I made my own
mounts but would have bought the L&L versions if I had known about
them at the time.

Everything about the big block is more massive than the 302 in every
direction. It will fill up your engine bay pretty nicely :-)


78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:28:40 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - 460 Cam

ULTRADYNE CAMS:601-349-4447

have fun. and explain to any co that just because it is a tryuck don't
mean it is supposed to be slow. if that was the case during prohibition
most of the alcohol wouldn't of made it to the people!

sleddog


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From: Jim Craig[SMTP:jcraig nations.net]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 1998 11:34 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE Perf - 460 Cam


Thanks, Sleddog. Max power at any cost? Then put it in a Pinto, huh? Try
an Audi 4000, the suspension lends itself to modification better, but hood
clearance isn't gonna happen :-)

I've been talking to the cam companies about their preferences, but I like
your idea better--take their reccommendation and go half a step above!
Besides, as soon as they hear the words "daily driver" and "truck" together
in the same sentence, they immediately goto a cam focused primarily on
low-end torque. Do you have the number for ultardyne?


Thanks,

Jimbo
'77 Supercab 460


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:40:13 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature

i have been using amsoil in my pulling trans for a few years now. i do
like it. runs cool. i may be trying redline this year as it is supposed
to be specifcally for competition.

sleddog

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From: Gary, 78 BBB[SMTP:gpeters3 ford.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 5:25 AM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature

> From: Sleddog
> Subject: RE: FTE Perf - tranny fluid temperature
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:59:28 -0400

> i have found now a chart showing 170-175 as normal, but is cooler
> yet even better?

I'm guessing but I'd say if you keep it below the boiling point and
below it's flash point then hotter is better. 180 seems to be the
magic number from what I've read so far but another thing you could
try is a good synthetic ATF. I'm going to try AMSOIL soon in my
daughters truck and the bird. The info on this indicates that there
are some real advantages to it, flow, flash point, boiling point
etc..

78 F-150, 2wd, 460, C-6, 235's
78 Bronco 351M, Np 435, Np 205, 33's
78 Lincoln Town Car, 460, C-6, 19.5' long!
9000#, in ground vehicle lift, Woooo Hooo!

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:49:07 -0600
From: dcbeatty
Subject: FTE Perf - FE cam

Hey guys, I'm kind of in a bind. The machine shop is building my motor
within the next 2 weeks and I want to get a cam. I'm not really comfortable
making a decision because I know practically nothing about cams and have
had even less experience with different ones. I'm trying to absorb as much
info as possible so I can come to an informed discussion.

The motor is a 390 originally out of a '68 Fairlane. It was 2v but I have a
Ford 4v manifold and an E-brock 600cfm carb. The stock cam would have been
.253 lift. I don't have a duration spec for it. I'm not doing anything too
radical to the motor. It will probably be bored and run 9.5:1 pistons which
also would have been stock compression. I'm running automatic transmission
with 3.54:1 rear end.

I just want plenty of overall power across the entire rpm range (1000-5000
rpm.). I'm looking to be able to both tow stuff into the mountains if I
need to, and blast onto the highway quick and run 95 mph if I need to. The
truck will mostly be driven in town for awhile too.

One guy I talked to mentioned that all I need is more duration. I know what
this is but what does more of it do? Another friend said he had an RV cam
in his '68 360 and it did what I am asking mine to do. I did drive it
before he sold it and it really hauled a**, though he was running a 3 speed
too. Just what is an RV cam?

Thanks. Any help or suggestion or experiences will be appreciated. Though I
trust my machinist, I'd hate to take only his recommendation and be
disappointed later.

Drew
dcbeatty rmi.net

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