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perf-list-digest Friday, August 21 1998 Volume 01 : Number 065 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Performance Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe perf-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE Perf - Re: Cooling FTE Perf - engine cooling RE: FTE Perf - Re: Temps FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull Re: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull RE: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:14:26 -0500 From: lordjanusz Subject: FTE Perf - Re: Cooling >I fail to see the convection current theory in the internal engine >cooling >system flow. >IME The pressure in the block can easily reach past 60 PSI (MOROSO >Pump)under >3000 RPM. That kind of pressure (or any) when combined with flow will >c*ancel >out the convection flow. The pressures in the head over the combustion >chamber and around the exhaust port can reach multiple hundreds of PSI >if >the coolant should flash to steam; which can and does happen even on >street >engines. I'm no expert, but I do know that the latest nuclear submarines operate their reactors on convection cooling alone (pumps are too noisy). You'd have to engineer the h*ll out of it, but I'd venture to propose that a convection cooled truck engine is possible **in theory**. Just my .02, lordjanusz _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 09:09:23 -0500 From: balusek Subject: FTE Perf - engine cooling I've been following the thread about different engine cooling theories and techniques and picked up on a comment that one person made about drilling holes in a stock thermostat. Seems like the results would depend on a multitude of variables like horsepower, average RPM, ambient temperature, and engine modifications. I've heard other people talk about doing this but they never explained the theory behing it. There must be something to it because I have a 2.9L Bronco II and the stock thermostat has an extra 3/16" hole with a one way check ball in it. I always wondered what this was for. All comments appreciated, Danny B. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:42:24 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Re: Temps reverse flow is helpful sometimes i understand, but getting front/back flow works very well to improve the cooling. went to another pull on tuesday night. see post for that about cooling. sleddog - ---------- From: Steve & Rockette[SMTP:canzus Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 1998 1:41 PM To: perf-list Subject: RE: FTE Perf - Re: Temps At 10:08 AM 18/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >too bad mine is filled with concrete past those holes. > >sleddog > >----- > The real trick would be to use the expansion plug holes for >cooling, > Okay, how about cooling the heads first??? Steve & Rockette...Lifes a beach '63 F100 Longbox '94 Taurus SHO - SWMBO's new car!! and since most are listing all thier cars: '72 Capri - Rockette's Toy, aka - SWMBO '73 Capri - My Toy / Daily Driver '73 MGB-GT Our Toy '70 Torino GT My "New" Car == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:14:17 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull ran a pull up in harford pa on tuesday night. actually, got to run twice! was going to put a set of 94/84 jets in, but all i could find was 97's and 88's. these are big jets my freinds! (was 70/80. well actually, was 70/80 written on bowls, but was 72/82 inside!) so, put them in before the pull and guess what. 2 things came up. one, it runs cooler. alot cooler! plus, it was a cool night. i started runs at 180 or so, and finished at under 210. the mixture was still lean though. it glowed the pipes the whole way, and very bright. thinking now, that this carb will never be able to flow the juice enough. looks like i will need a MUCH bigger one. also, run up to 6000 rpms. i really think the carb is restricting it. it should pull much more especially with the low final gearing i had with the tires i used. I think i may be able to keep it all cool with this electric pump, if i can get the jetting right. perhaps some other things may be required in the future, but for now i'll wait on running lines from the back of the head. i ran against super stock trucks (not street legal-mine has a inspection sticker) and took out a few of them. didn't place, but feel confidant with its's performance. i know what i need to do. will also go bigger tire for the last few pulls. sleddog == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:23:41 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: Re: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull At 11:14 AM 8/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >ran a pull up in harford pa on tuesday night. actually, got to run twice! So, where are the Pictures???? :) Later Keith == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:50:18 -0400 From: Sleddog Subject: RE: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull i am working on getting some. nancy took a few, but it was with a disposable camera. on tuesday, we got some vidoe footage, but noone had a camera. :( anyway, i have been so busy lately, that even if i had them in my hands - no time to scan them yet. i have even been deleting most of my mail without reading. soon, i hope to have more free time. sleddog - ---------- From: Keith Srb[SMTP:herbie Sent: Thursday, August 20, 1998 11:23 AM To: perf-list Subject: Re: FTE Perf - more cooling stuff - after the last pull At 11:14 AM 8/20/98 -0400, you wrote: >ran a pull up in harford pa on tuesday night. actually, got to run twice! So, where are the Pictures???? :) Later Keith == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of perf-list-digest V1 #65 ******************************.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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