perf-list-digest Friday, August 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 058



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In this issue:

FTE Perf - Sleddogs living Monster
Re: FTE Perf - 1987 F-150 Repower
Re: FTE Perf - K&N Filters
RE: FTE Perf - it's alive!...
Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...
FTE Perf - 93 F-150 build-up
Re: FTE Perf - K&N Filters
FTE Perf - Expected gas mileage?
Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 06:53:16 -0500
From: ballingr ldd.net (William L Ballinger)
Subject: FTE Perf - Sleddogs living Monster

> my new pulling motor is alive. got a few minutes run time, but didn't want
> to piss off the niehbors. got alot to do to finish it off - hope to pull
> (and WIN) at warren county on friday!

'Gratulations!!!
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:13:07 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - 1987 F-150 Repower

From: CMartin335 aol.com
Date sent: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:57:12 EDT
Subject: FTE Perf - 1987 F-150 Repower

> My question is .. Am I starting with the right engine and does anyone have
> any advice or sugguestions. All the brackets , PS, AC, Air Pump, ect. are
> still intact. When finished my truck it will still have to pass emissions.

Most states require you to smog the engine to it's spec or the chassis which
ever is newer so if you put the 460 in it will have to be EFI since that's all
they had in 87 and since the 460 wasn't offered in your truck in that year it
may be illegal anyway so check your laws before you buy anything.

76 was not a particularily good year, 68 - 71 or so were the best but they all
run and can be made to run strong so they're all good. Post 78 engines need
externally balanced flywheel like the 335 series though so don't mix them up.

If you have to be smogged I'd suggest you get a newer EFI engine, 87 or
newer and all computer stuff and harnesses and do it right.


Greed is the Creed of the Breed
that did away with the Steed
Visteon, Delphi..........:-(

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:24:20 +0000
From: "Gary, 78 BBB"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - K&N Filters

From: "George"
Subject: FTE Perf - K&N Filters
Date sent: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:08:41 -0700

> K&N claims their filter gets better the dirtier it gets and additional HP
> from the increased air flow. IMHO, there is no free lunch.

Absolutely right, but to get more air flow you ADD additional surface with
the SAME density. Bigger it definitely better in this case, bigger diameter or
taller which ever enhances the inlet flow to the venturis the best but bigger,
not more open or porous. You want the micron protection, just get more
surface exposed to the air and you you will get the flow and still have the
microns you want :-)


Greed is the Creed of the Breed
that did away with the Steed
Visteon, Delphi..........:-(

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:25:46 -0400
From: Sleddog
Subject: RE: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

being in a general hurry, and feeling confidant in redline ass'y lube, and
hating trying to get the destributer to line up again, i used the starter
with no plugs in to prime it.

put in plugs, cranked and she cranked for a little while and gave a nice
cuople of fires. did that a few times before she started and stayed up.
didn't run it over 3000. have a roller, so cam break in is no problem.
warmed it up to about 180-190 i think. then shut it off. started it back
up. it started gettin up to about 210-215. hosed the radiater a while to
get it cooler and it appeared to start stabalizing at 190 or so. maybe i
will need a slightly bigger hole in the restrictor to cool a little more.

it will crank it over with ignition on, but i have it switched so i can
turn it over, then hit ignition after it is up to cranking speed. starter
turns it fine, but by hand after assy, the valvesprings made it VERY
difficult to turn over (bar between flexplate bolts.

sleddog

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From: George[SMTP:maga55 ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:39 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

Congratulations. How long did you run it on initial fire and what rpms?
Would it initially crank with all the plugs in?

George Miller

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From: Sleddog
To: 'FORD TRUCKS LIST' ; 'FTE performance list'
; 'fanglers xephic.dynip.com'

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 7:07 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - it's alive!...


my new pulling motor is alive. got a few minutes run time, but didn't want
to piss off the niehbors. got alot to do to finish it off - hope to pull
(and WIN) at warren county on friday!

later.

we now return you to the regulary scheduled format.

sleddog

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:49:11 -0700
From: Keith Srb
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

At 10:10 PM 8/12/98 -0400, you wrote:
>my new pulling motor is alive. got a few minutes run time, but didn't want
>to piss off the niehbors. got alot to do to finish it off - hope to pull
>(and WIN) at warren county on friday!
>
>later.
>
>we now return you to the regulary scheduled format.
>

Cool! Congrat's

Let us know how things go at the pull.


Keith Srb herbie netvalue.net
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:18:33 -0500 (CDT)
From: Phil Brown
Subject: FTE Perf - 93 F-150 build-up

I am helping a friend do some work on his 93 F-150, 4x4, 302 auto. He's
looking for more power but not too much money. This is what we have
planned.

Port stock heads and lower intake, i dont think the intake needs much.
1.7 rocker arms
1.5" shorty headers
cat-back
the truck has 80k, should i gut the cats or leave em there. Are they that
much of a restriction. No emissions to worry about.
K&N filter
set timing between 12 and 14 deg.
shift kit, or custom chip

Am i missing anything, or doing anything wrong?
thanks in advance,

Phil

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:09:42 -0700
From: "George"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - K&N Filters

Can I interest you in a case or so of Miracle Engine Treatment or perhaps a
set of Splitfire Plugs?

George Miller


> K&N claims their filter gets better the dirtier it gets and additional HP
> from the increased air flow. IMHO, there is no free lunch.

Absolutely right, but to get more air flow you ADD additional surface with
the SAME density. Bigger it definitely better in this case, bigger diameter
or
taller which ever enhances the inlet flow to the venturis the best but
bigger,
not more open or porous. You want the micron protection, just get more
surface exposed to the air and you you will get the flow and still have the
microns you want :-)


Greed is the Creed of the Breed
that did away with the Steed
Visteon, Delphi..........:-(

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:46:47 EDT
From: WmRobinso aol.com
Subject: FTE Perf - Expected gas mileage?

Hello Everybody!

I'm new to the subscription list and I am the proud new owner of a 1994 F-150
Supercab LWB 4x2 with 32k miles.

This truck is equipped with a 302 cid/5.0 liter engine, an auto 4 speed
transmission, and what I think (code 19) is a 3.55 axle ratio.

What should the expected range for gas mileage be in this pickup?

Also, I am quite surprised at how slow this vehicle is off the line. Until it
reaches a speed of 25 mph it doesn't really take off. It has been tuned up
by the dealer and runs perfectly -- so does anybody have an idea?

Bill R.
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:25:10 -0700
From: "George"
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

That's great. If it stabilized at 190 with no run-in, you couldn't ask for a
better operating temp without a load. Is there a finer sound than that first
blast out the headers from a 385 you did yourself? Maybe, but not in the
garage.

George Miller



being in a general hurry, and feeling confidant in redline ass'y lube, and
hating trying to get the destributer to line up again, i used the starter
with no plugs in to prime it.

put in plugs, cranked and she cranked for a little while and gave a nice
cuople of fires. did that a few times before she started and stayed up.
didn't run it over 3000. have a roller, so cam break in is no problem.
warmed it up to about 180-190 i think. then shut it off. started it back
up. it started gettin up to about 210-215. hosed the radiater a while to
get it cooler and it appeared to start stabalizing at 190 or so. maybe i
will need a slightly bigger hole in the restrictor to cool a little more.

it will crank it over with ignition on, but i have it switched so i can
turn it over, then hit ignition after it is up to cranking speed. starter
turns it fine, but by hand after assy, the valvesprings made it VERY
difficult to turn over (bar between flexplate bolts.

sleddog

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From: George[SMTP:maga55 ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:39 PM
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE Perf - it's alive!...

Congratulations. How long did you run it on initial fire and what rpms?
Would it initially crank with all the plugs in?

George Miller

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From: Sleddog
To: 'FORD TRUCKS LIST' ; 'FTE performance list'
; 'fanglers xephic.dynip.com'

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 7:07 PM
Subject: FTE Perf - it's alive!...


my new pulling motor is alive. got a few minutes run time, but didn't want
to piss off the niehbors. got alot to do to finish it off - hope to pull
(and WIN) at warren county on friday!

later.

we now return you to the regulary scheduled format.

sleddog

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